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No. Early short frames were red as well as the black short frame of the 2001 Rosso Mandello. Pretty sure those all used the smaller pins. Long Frame started with the 2002 LeMans (some Euro models could be very late 2001). I am not certain if the larger pins started with the long frame or later . . .

Is the frame color a factor ?

Ah, yes, the diameter changed (larger) during the V11 production run. Perhaps with the Long Frame after 2001..... Early (smaller) pivot pin: GU 37547005

Thanx for all the replies it’s a great help. it’s surprising when I’ve been working on it that previous owners just did things half hearted. I know cost comes into things. When I first saw I had to have it and paid the asking price without question. thanx again guys 👍👍

Thanx for the link, I have another that’s been re sprayed. It’s finding the time to fit. ive just got it back on the road after my crash, it’s the left handlebar as it’s bent I’m having difficulty sourcing and the cost is astronomical!!😳

TLM has one if you don't think you can get yours right https://en.tlm.nl/moto-guzzi-triumph/us-01410240-used-achterframe-v11-sport-rood

I am the opposite; I think we have too many dull colors today. Most of the cars out there are either white, gray, or black. Obviously, I am biased because both Texas and France have in common Blue White Red on their flags.

Tidbit for the archives- I bought a pair of V11 swingarm stub bolts on eBay.de, which came today. Unfortunately, they don't fit. They are the correct length in thread and stub, but the thread of my original pivot is ~20mm, and the newly arrived ones are ~22mm. I suppose it's possible that they are from a later model, a CARC or something, but only Pete might know that. I'm thinking they're the same as my '97 Sport 1100 and they got bigger along the way somewhere.

I had a close look at my frame/subframe, 2000 Red frame V11 and can say with certainty that the subframe is centered along the spine frame axis. It's never been unbolted, the bike has never been crashed and the center captive nut on the tail loop is clearly centered along the frame centerline.

The black musicians become one with their instrument . Jimi was light years ahead of ANY musician. I cannot imagine what all those Brits felt when they saw him. I remember this documentary where one of them simply said "we'll have to get new jobs" .

I am sure Phil was giving Molly the best/correct diagnosis , he was trying to adjust the valves on the valve overlap stroke instead of the ignition stroke.

Jimi was dead before I was born, but I can admire brilliance when I hear it.

Forgot to mention: I rode it today for a couple of hours, about 120 km I think. The bike really is lots of fun.

Interesting. We have a thread that investigated this and supports this change to driveline placement with the V11 6speeder relative to the 5-speed SpineFrames. I'll see if I can find it . . . edit: Here is one of them starting with a post by @Admin Jaap:

Good point, that. It is good practice to always approach the point you are going to measure at in the normal direction of rotation. Turning the motor backwards wont do any damage, but it is good to go past where you want to get to, and then up to your point in the normal rotation direction. Not critical, possibly, but doing so makes sure that things like cam-chains and whatever all have the lash taken out as they normally do when the motor is running.

I thought that only applied to the Sport 1100 and Daytona models. The V11 got, after all, a new 6-speed gearbox, and I thought the motor moved back to centre with that.

Just thought very carefully about what I had to do before I started. The replacement seal in my right hand, the loosened plug taken out with the left, swap, bung it back in. The potential for a fumble is high, but I got lucky.

Not a fan of the Tributo. The red, white and blue is not doing it for me.

My picks. The V-7 Sport The Wind Tunnel The Stelvio Th V100 Mandello S The last Stelvio....Mmmmm . Too many colors

Wheat straw or soda straw ? Have you ever dropped a bike ? I have and it never gets old. You say words Chris Rock would have to walk out on. Concerning all the TDCs. Yes, one TDC will have the valves rocking and one TDC the valves will be still . This is where the 4 stroke philosophy comes in to play

My music was a little more rebellious . Black Oak , GFR , Black Sabbath , The Who , Bob Seger....The louder the better. Then for quality time : Al Green , Marvin Gaye and the likes .

Parts ordered. MG Cycle to the rescue.

I am always amazed at the wealth of info to be found here. The amount of detail that is written about some little part or connection on a Sport is impressive. I'm on it now, time to order parts. Thank you all!

Idk when I'm going to learn this lesson. After your post I said, Duh, pull out the parts catalog. I saw everything you described in detail. Thanks for the prompt!

As I recall the motor is offset like 10 mm in the frame to allow for the width of the rear tire. When Guzzi moved to a wider rear tire with the shaft drive setup they moved the entire engine and trans over to make room for the wider wire instead of offsetting the output of the trans so the drive shaft would clear the wider rear tire. It was easier to do that then redesign the trans. This makes the two mufflers a little wonky, as each connects to the motor (the motor that is now 10 mm off to one side) and that means that one head pipe is in front of the other slightly as well as they are both off center side to side. But in my opinion the rear subframe itself should be centered with the chassis spine frame and centered with the rear tire. Just not exactly centered with the exhaust.