Tank Off Maintenance Checklist

docc · September 10, 2013

There are a few threads and posts here and there discussing tank removal. This varies from the early (external fuel pump/filter and "chin pad" on top) to the later (in-tank pump/filter and painted top) V11s. The whole process is best begun with the tank very close to empty. Less fuel to spill and less plastic tank deformation while it is off the mounts. Prepare somewhere to place your precious tank while the maintenance is completed.

Fuel tank removal post in "How To . . ." by al_roethlisberger

Later model "Quick Disconnect" post by Greg Field

Gas Tank Removal post by Tom M

On external pump/filter V11s, the filter may be in three locations (under the frame, on top, or in front). Removing the right side fuel line first is easiest and will drain the filter the quickest if the filter is above the frame. Yes, the early tank fuel pressure regulator on the right side of the tank looks like it has an extra fitting with no hose on it. It's correct that way.

Be prepared to catch 100 ml or more of fuel. If you have an early electrical petcock, there will be two wires to it on the rearmost of the left side of the tank bottom. Simply unplug to shut off. The manual petcocks have a knurled knob and need a lot of twisting to close along with a snug closure from a good set of adjustable pliers like the Channel-Lock brand.

Once removed, the two most likely maintenance candidates are the fuel filter and air filter. These may vary depending on your year model and whether there have been modifications. The K&N CG-9002 fits well in the stock airbox, but expect to clean and re-oil it regularly (perhaps once a year or 12,000 miles/20.000 km). The original Weber external fuel filters can be re-fitted with a quality unit for the Isuzu Trooper. They are a tad shorter, and will require a slightly longer fuel line, but are readily available and will need a thin shim inside the bracket for good retention. The WIX that I use is 33310. WIX is also showing a direct replacement for the 1999-2001 V11, but I have not seen it.

My apologies that I have little experience with the later tanks with internal pump/filter (no chin pad). We'll add good links as necessary. The purpose of this thread is more to make a list of items to look after while the tank is off:

**EDIT/note (2/2015): At this point, many of these bikes have been through a few owners, issues, and "over the river and through the woods." Keep an eye out for "modifications," questionable repairs, or out-of-place bits, melted wires, duct tape, splices, missing fasteners, or general bodging. Some of this can be quite expertly done, some not.

> Clean, crimp, seal, and secure the two bullet type Clutch Switch connectors at the front left of the frame.

>Locate, inspect, groom and otherwise secure the wiring and connectors from the Side Stand Switch. This is how your V11 gets electrical power to the Run Switch while you are riding along. Without it, you will not be riding along. Might as well have a close look at your side stand mechanism: pivot bolt, backing nut, springs, and foot "lever"(wire loop). Make certain the sidestand bracket fasteners are secure to the timing chest and sump spacer. The main, large fastener here is torqued to 70 Nm! Loose fasteners here could contribute to a broken sump spacer. (no need to have the tank off for this one!)

>Inspect, clean, and seal the spark plug wires and their boots coming out of each coil. These are rather in the weather and susceptible to nastiness. Test the resistance of the spark plug caps/ resistors - they should each be around 5,000 Ω. Test the resistance of the ignition wires expecting them to be equal and around 10,000 Ω (~5,000 Ω per foot).

>Check the coils are not loose at their vulnerable vibration isolators.

>Check, or install, a ground strap from the regulator to the engine and/or frame. "Star" washers make good contact as they cut through painted surfaces.

>Inspect, groom, clean, and secure all visible wires and connections. Carefully open connectors and spray clean with a good electronics cleaner. No grease conducts electricity so make your connections clean and dry, then coat them to keep moisture out. I'm really liking Caig DeOxit Gold for this: it promotes conductivity while also lubricating. [NOTE: This product (among others) will soften and swell the AMP/Metri-Pack style connector seals. Be certain the seals and are not exposed to the DeOxit and the connector cavity is clean and dry before reassembly.] The regulator connection that powers the Battery Warning Light on the early V11 is prone to getting wet and causing the Battery Light to come on in the rain. Oh, and, hey: hook up the battery and test that everything works *before* you out the tank back on. Don't ask me how I know . . .

>Be certain the wiring lead from the Phase sensor is not "Zip-tied" tightly to the frame leading to a wiring break and sensor failure. Repeat the process of locating and releasing any and all wiring that is anchored tightly to hard points. Re-tie loosely to avoid wiring failures.

>Look for chafing or pinching in the wiring, cabling, or hoses that may need attention.

>Tighten the battery terminals and seal them with Vaseline® or Caig DeOxit Gold®. If the battery has been out recently, re-tighten the terminals after a couple rides.

>Find the straightest, gentlest routing for the speedometer cable. Make sure it is not crimped, kinked, or bent. If you have an early V11 with the white face Veglia, service those bevel drives, especially the one at the gear box (the upper is attached to the back of the speedometer itself). Make sure the brass insert is pressed well into the body of the drive and consider permanently sealing the metal disc before it goes missing along with the internal worm gear!

>Inspect the crank case vent breather hose (30 15 7400) under the frame that ventilates the crankcase. It clamps on above the "bell housing" that houses the clutch assembly. If it cracks, collapses, or gets loose the vented oil will emerge from the lower bell housing weep hole making you think the rear main seal is gone. There is a heater hose that can be fitted for this application, but the consensus is that the rubber will not tolerate the exposure to oil. Check that the vent hose is not resting on, and being abraded by, the oil feed lines to the heads at the front of the "V."

>Inspect around the distributor blanking cover on the top right of the motor: if it's oily there, give it a new O-ring. Seal the flat area with a good gasket sealer/RTV silicone.

>Inspect the oil cooler brackets and oil cooler lines. Any chafing against the sub-frame can be isolated with plastic "zip-ties".

>Inspect the throttle cable for breaks between the housing and the left side throttle body. See that the throttle cable bracket is adjusted (bent) in such a way to give the cable the straightest shot at the bell crank. Groom everything else away from resting on the exposed throttle cable. If the bike has been stored extensively, hardened lubricant can obstruct cable movement creating a stuck throttle - inspect, clean and lube with a good cable lube. Note that the early Sport throttle cable is superseded in the Moto Guzzi parts supply by an incorrect part - instead use 01117560.

> If your TPS still has the awful Torx fasteners, now is a good time to change them to a hex drive socket head. They are 4mm/ 0.7 thread pitch ~17mm long. Use thread lubricant, especially if your new fasteners are stainless steel.

>If applicable, groom the left side fuel line up and away from the cylinder finning. Moving the fuel pump forward in the bracket, shortening the fuel line, covering the fuel line with heat shielding material are all simple methods of limiting heat soak and vapor lock in this fuel feed line.

>Change any serrated "worm-gear" hose clamps with high-pressure fuel injection type clamps. BEFORE you remount the tank, recheck EVERY clamp for tightness. You can't get to them with the tank back on, and they'll LEAK if you didn't cinch every one down. (Don't ask me how I know :glare: )

>Many tanks have "softened" enough to rest down hard against the side covers and back against the tail piece. Look for chafing or deformation. Shimming the rear fuel tank mount upward may be helpful. While there is much disagreement, ethanol in the fuel is likely problematic - something about formation of binary azeotropes . Traditional wisdom has been to store a bike with the tank full (maybe with a fuel stabilizer), but ethanol doesn't store well, so either store the tank near empty, or with pure gasoline.

>Early Sports often rest the seat hard against the battery. Look for signs (chafing on the battery top, cutting into the hold-down strap). Relieving the seat pan with an abrasive tool (ie:Dremel) and lowering the battery basket can be helpful.

>Observe the Phase/Timing/TDC/Cam Position Sensor on the left side of the timing chest for leakage. A simple #112 O-ring replacement is often all that is necessary. That said, mine leaked through the wire lead and had to be sealed with an epoxy. Do not increase the gasket thickness as this will change the timing. Sometimes, the fasteners just need to be snugged up.

>Service the Oil Pressure Sensor connector near the Timing Sensor - clean and seal with some petroleum jelly (Vaseline) or equivalent.

>Check the two electrical connections to the fuel pump. Clean, tighten, and seal.

>Be certain the drain holes in the stock airbox lid are clear.

>Clean the Air Temperature Sensor inside the airbox with a spray of electronics cleaner. Be certain the connector is cleaned, sealed, and secured well (http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19681&p=214817); Same goes for the connector to the Engine Temperature Sensor on the inboard side of the right head toward the rear.

>There will likely be some oil in the bottom of the airbox that could use some mopping up. It is common for the left cavities of the airbox to accumulate enough oil that it weeps out around the left "inlet trumpet" and down onto the gearbox. Take the time to clean the oil out of the inside of the airbox.

>Inspect the heat shielding on the underside of the tank. Expect it to be loose in places and require re-attaching. A toluene based contact adhesive (ie:"GOOP" or "Shoe Goo") works well once both surfaces are clean. This is most important where an open airbox lid has been fitted and the loose heat shielding can block air flow. Some of this shielding is getting so old that the surface foil layer (which covers the inner fiberglass layer) might have to be replaced with a self adhesive foil tape (metalized duct tape).

>Inspect the two wires from the fuel level sensor under its rubber boot. They are vulnerable to breakage. Re-secure if necessary. Apply a blob of epoxy where the wires connect to prevent them from breaking. The same applies to the wires entering the electric petcock if your bike still has it.

>Later tanks with the pump/filter internal have a special gasket that should be inspected for leaks.

>If you have an early tank (1999-2002) with the chin pad, inspect its hold down fasteners.

>Open the cap and make sure the drain (left) and vent (right) holes are clear through to the underside nipples using a spray solvent like electronics cleaner and/or compressed air. Also, clear the rubber line(s) that attach to the nipples.

>As the tank goes back on, re-secure the tank vent and overflow on the underside of the tank. This is fiddly and the connections may benefit from using small wire clamps that will still allow a press fit. There have been many modifications reported on this routing, but simply be certain your tank vent and overflow route below the engine and exhaust not onto them, even if they are co-joined into one drain tube. US models have a one way valve (small plastic disc) that can become disoriented or obstructed and allow a vacuum to build in the tank (the dreaded "tank suck"). Make sure the valve is oriented for vertical flow and secured. If your tank has suction when you open the filler cap, the venting needs to be addressed. One quick-fix is to open the cap and remove the small rubber seal on the right rear of the cap. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but it has been used as a quick fix.

> Check that the right side fuel return hose to the regulator does not press upon the TPS. The regulator can be loosened and rotated with a 20mm open end wrench. This applies to early "chin pad" tanks for certain, but watch for any interference with the TPS.

>Be absolutely certain nothing is fouling the movement of the throttle cable or its bell crank including the left side white linkage adjusting knob.

Happy bike, happy life!! :luigi: :drink:

docc · March 4, 2014

Update: So, having just pulled my tank (and 3/4 of the wiring loom, and the rear sub-frame), I've updated this list and have added several more links to other helpful threads.

Enjoy your wrenching!

docc · March 6, 2015

Updated, once again, with new links and deletion of dead links.

Some of what is linked does not require tank removal, and not all of this needs to be done every time, but The Checklists are likely the only single posts that link much of the forum's archived knowledge and experience.

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