H4 LED + other LED lighting

[docc]

 

Well, as noted, I've seen H4 LED with as little as 1000 lumen and as much as 8000. The standard incandescent hi-beam is around 1850.

 

One member in the other thread (I believe Moto fugazzi) commented that the blue-white light is not as effective as the warmer (more yellow) color in rain and fog. I've heard similar comments from the automotive side.

 

(Sw'dave, I have one of the LED tail light units you posted elsewhere, but haven't installed yet.)

 

So the $20 bulb puts out 200 lumen and the regular one is 1850 and you're complaining?

 

The blue/white is very effective at one thing, drivers seeing you.

 

It seems like if I'm going to go to the trouble to "upgrade", I would want a significant difference in output. I realize that the cost, and the heat, rise with the output, while longevity/reliability go down.

 

I didn't mean to start a separate headlight thread, as I was hoping the member who had posted an alternative LED would post up. It wasn't posted on the JBBenson's main thread, but somewhere else.

 

Still, I appreciate all the links and the education. At this point, I would like to find a heat sink (no fan) unit with 4000+ lumen and color range less than 5000 Kelvin.

[docc]

This is one option I would like to make fit. 4000 lumen, 4300 Kelvin. It does have a fan and a driver, but that seems to be the norm. Good news though, "no need tool."

 

I have a extra bucket that I might-could *modify* if necessary. . .

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-H4-CREE-LED-Motorcycle-Headlight-Bulb-4000LM-40W-Hi-Lo-20W-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit/32619929937.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.27.PpxLMx&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_5010019_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10084_10083_5190020_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10073_10123_142-10050,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=e6d1f2b0-23fa-46f2-b8d1-f0ac63ba47f5&algo_expid=dca429f6-9754-4b9f-aaac-ef16f611ca97-3&algo_pvid=dca429f6-9754-4b9f-aaac-ef16f611ca97

[swooshdave]

Ain't hard to figure out how much space you have in the bucket. But I'd be surprised if you had 35mm.

 

[docc]

My best methods yield *right-at* 45 mm from the H4 base plate to the back of the bucket.

 

If the fan exhausts backward through the honeycomb, maybe a vent cut in the back of the bucket would be exactly right?

 

If the fan exhausts radially, then it's simply a close fit (10 mm behind the heat sink/ fan housing).

[swooshdave]

What they don't show you is the wiring required for that light. Well, they show it but not attached.

[docc]

What they don't show you is the wiring required for that light. Well, they show it but not attached.

Truly. I have been trying to discern the wiring. The connector to the driver *looks* very similar to the AMP connector for the V11 headlamp, but it's not the same. What to cut and solder this time? That would be far from "plug&play ". . . .

[BigBlock]

Nice copper hammer docc!!

[docc]

Nice copper hammer docc!!

Thanks!   Thank   Chuck . . .

 

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19673

[LowRyter]

sorry.  do we have an answer?

[docc]

sorry.  do we have an answer?

Depends on the question(s), I suppose.

 

I have the 4000LM/4300K "bulb" on the way.

 

*[edit 6 June 2017: this unit plugs in with any wiring changes, everything fits easily in the early Bosch bucket, actaul 10-11 mm clearance behind the heat sink/ fan outlet.]

 

The unit that MartyNZ posted with the copper coils looks like it works, "plug&play," if you're okay with the output and the color.

[LowRyter]

let us know how it works out Docc.  If it's plug n play, I'd be interested.  

[Chuck]

I don't need no steenkin lights.. I don't ride at night anyway.

[docc]

I thought Swoosh made a good point about the white/blue lights perhaps being more visible to other road users.

 

Yet, I personally prefer to  look out upon the road with a warmer (more yellow) light. I figure if it's bright enough, it will still have good conspicuity.

 

After all, cagers still pull in front of fire trucks painted Safety Yellow with lights and sirens going . . .

[Chuck]

I saw one run into the back of a parked cop car one time. Two guys got out looking like of stiff legged..

[docc]

What they don't show you is the wiring required for that light. Well, they show it but not attached.

So, this unit came today. Twelve days (including two weekends and a US holiday) from China.  The unit was packaged very well and looks to be very high quality. The driver is integrated with the plug, so it is indeed a plug in unit. Just a matter of grooming the wiring and small driver in the bucket.

There is ~10-11 mm (3/8") behind the fan outlet/ heat sink housing. I'm pleased with that (so far!)