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I'm about to burst your bubble Scud and put this to bed forever and add to the data base. I have 2 second hand and one brand new (never seen fuel) later tanks and 1 brand new (never seen fuel) old style tanks and the original on my bike. I have just laid the tape measure on my original tank and brand new late tank and i can tell you they are dimensionally very different. I'll post some images with tape measures attached so we can align with your frame length images. My feeling is that you could fit an earlier tank to a later frame but not the other way around without losing steering lock. My bike now has the modified fwd mounts fitted which reduces my steering lock anyway and if I fit the later type tank I'd end up with pretty much zero lock.So comparatively you loose quite an amount of fork leg to tank clearance on full lock when you fit the later tank to the earlier frame and from my experience of my bike with std mounts I only had 5mm clearance tank to fork leg anyway on full lock. So ctr of aft mount bolt to fwd edge of tank....old style 620mm, new 660mm EDIT.....if you look at the front edge of the fwd mount you can see where the difference is. Note the extra length from the fwd tank mount forward edge to the fwd tank section where the tape is resting. It appears there is an extra 40mm here but the forward projections are about the same. I believe they have lengthened the top of the tank 40mm and moved the cap opening forward 20mm but the tank length overall is the same give or take. Note how in these images how the front forward projections seem to sweep back a lot more on the green tank than the grey later tank. This is in line with the overall length being roughly the same but the top face being extended forward to close the gap to the steering head around where the breather banjo is on the upper frame. Looks like scudd may be correct although I'd be interested to see if the later tank on the earlier frame limits the steering lock. As I said the later tank wont work with my new setup. Dont be fooled by the camera angle, centre of aft mount hole to ctr of cap, old tank 295mm, new tank style 315mm 315mm aft ctr mount hole to cap ctr. Once again camera angle. Fwd tank edge in the ctr(not the projecting sides) to cap ctr 315mm, old style tank 295mm Old style fwd ctr edge to cap ctr 295mm The dimensions from the back of the fwd mounts to the forward most edge of the tanks are virtually the same. So its like they sliced the ctr filler cap section out of the tank fwd and aft and added two 20mm plugs to lengthen it. One fwd and one aft of the filler cap. Just like when they stretch the fuselage of a heavy jet Full sized images are in my album. Ciao

I have personally swapped tanks between red and black framed bikes without any issues or modifications. While I no longer have both tanks available to measure, I do believe the tanks are the same size. There is just more clearance between the tank and the triple-clamps with the black-frame bikes.

Download the alchemy app. Whatever you scan turns into gold. Requires a Golden Retriever as well, because those dogs retrieve gold.

There is a free program called "convert" an engineering program that converts about anything. I've used it for way too many years. I can't seem to get the "lead to gold" conversion to work, though..

Just wanted to send out a big thank you to all the folks on this forum and the V11 community as a whole. I finally had the time to give my Café Sport its first thorough "Decent Tune-up". I was amazed at the difference. It was running well enough before so I never thought to change anything. The instructions, parts, tools, software and advice posted on this forum were such a huge help. I'm glad I took the time to get my bike running even better than ever, and I appreciate the efforts of all who have contributed to this community over the years. A few other things I have done since my original posts: "Solved" my assumed old leak. Turns out the shop simply added too much oil. It spit the excess out and would drip down on hot summer days. I gave the undercarriage a thorough cleaning and not a drop since. Steady oil level as well. Fixed a problem with it stalling when pulling the clutch in while coming to a stop. I noticed some soot forming at the exhaust pipe joints. Obvious sign of an exhaust leak, possibly causing low back pressure. I disassembled the exhaust system, ground off the ceramic coating at the joints and reinstalled. Not only was the stalling problem solved but the whole exhaust system fits better and tucks up even more tightly than before. I did the high idle to seat latch spring swap. Now the high idle lever is actually usable! Such a good tip. Omron relays added as preventative maintenance. Figured I'd buy them while they're still available. All in all the bike is running stronger than ever. Now I just need to get my Centauro running this well. I fear that wish will be a bit more challenging. Thanks again everyone and until next time, Keith

ThanX . I can't find my chart . and I'm doing a caliper flush & refill . I removed the calipers , R&R all pistons and cleaned them . UGH . This brake fluid smelled awful after sitting 25 yrs . I'm going to have to do this to everything !!!!!!! I'm using DOT 4 fluid too .

Can you verify they are 8mm? Those will be 25-30NM (18-22 ft-lb). If they are 10mm/ 45-50 NM (33-37 ft-lb)

I remember reading some journalist's opinion about the early V11 Sport, "Will require some owner involvement." That was not wrong . . .

A dear friend trusted technician suggested Brembo rotors like Brembo pads. I had excessive wear from EBC HH pads and have been using Brembo, again, ever since.

IF he's referring to caliper to mount bolts , they are 8mm . I removed mine to flush the fluid . To whom it may concern ; drop the caliper and inspect the pads and all the doodads under the plastic cover . I just took mine out flushing brake fluid and caliper clean-up to find ugly worn-out pads and pins . What brand pads do you recommend ? I thought I has some rear pads in stock , but I can't find them .

I have the early frame with gearbox bracing and it shows no sign of instability. Now Im putting that down to a couple of things but mostly weight distribution. On my modified bike I have a reasonable change in weight. The battery sits under the tank now and the subframe is about 1.6kg compared to 10+kg of the original, so it is now more bias on the front. Years ago when I built my modified MilleGT, I did a similar lightening job, overall reducing about 35kg off it. But the weight loss was both front and back. I assembled it with the same rake and trail as the original and it was very unstable, every bump out of a corner would give a small headshake, to the point I was considering a steering dampener as at this stage I'd only ridden it around the block. I dropped the triple tree over the forks by 12mm and it was a totally different bike. Better steering, stable, no headshake or weave at any speed.

Correctamundo.

24 extra hours of Guzzi bliss! (umm, helicopter's a bit low))

Happy Leap Day, y'all! (Photo courtesy of Hagerty Drivers Club)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/v2gWtSuspjGjYzsU9 Hopefully that works. The forum will only let me post 204kb. If someone can post these please do.

V11 pipes get any higher, we'll hafta start burnin' diesel!

Uploading a video to YouTube and posting the link here wouldn't be much of a problem. Setting up a good recording is the tough part. I think we've all seen those, less than spectacular, exhaust demo clips recorded on phones. Then on the other side, I doubt most people's computer speakers would do it justice. I may get around to it someday though. I'm up for a little V11 SoCal gathering. Just don't make me ride through LA traffic! I will be sure to add a few more in the near future. As far as I know, these are the stock wheels. This is a Cafe Sport and not a Scura though.

I got everything installed and took it up to Idyllwild for a test ride today. Take a look. In terms of performance I did not notice too much difference. It does rev a little smoother. I think I still need to adjust the idle though. It stalled when coming to a full stop a couple times. The main thing I noticed was the difference in sound. I am extremely picky when it comes to exhaust notes. I can honestly say this it the most beautiful sounding exhaust of any vehicle I have ever heard. Needless to say I am very happy with the results.

The exhaust parts came back from Jet-Hot today. Looks like I've got a fun project for the weekend. Here is a before and soon to be after side by side comparison.