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So it's been a while since I updated this thread, but I've been doing stuff. Not "Chuck" type doing stuff but chipping away. Firstly I had a very minor oil weep to sort from the head oil feed banjo on the cases and replace the oil pressure switch where the gauge was fitted. The oil feed banjo was a real bastard to do and necessitated making 2 special tools. I hadn't really done it up tight enough due to the head being so close to one part of the cases you couldn't get a ring or socket on it and even an OE spanner had limited movement. Anyway finally sorted that and used my other special tool to re fit the oil pressure switch. The other issue was of course the fuel tap and I've covered sorting that elsewhere. Its now lovely to use and doesn't leak, hooray. I've got a new one on the way and I'll mod it as well. The biggest issue was the mapping and I spent many hours getting up to speed on Guzzidiag including reading every post on the Guzzi.de forum going back 9 years where Paul Daytona and Meinolf and Beard the Wizard behind diag along with Paul live. This is the home of Guzzidiag and there's a ton of info there. I'm amazed that Paul and Beard got the first iteration up and running in a few months, impressive. With my rudimentary understanding of the system my thoughts were to obtain a .bin file from a Centauro which has a 16M ecu and simply transfer the mapping info into the 15M. Gritman in England you may remember did the same engine swap and kindly sent me his map and I tried that. It didn't run that well and from the fuel map 3D it looked very rich. It ran better than the std V11 map but wasn't ride-able except around the block. I hadn't seen a std Centi map at this point so I had nothing to compare with. At the same time thanks to audiomick one of the mods at Guzzi.de and a fellow Aussie living in Germany I was put in touch to Karsten who also had some Centi .bin files and generously sent them to me. I now also had a couple of enhanced Centi bins to compare. All this is extremely useful if you actually want to learn and see whats safe to do. It gives you known references. I also had to buy a brand new ECU as the original looks like it had a failed baro sensor. It worked ok but I suspect it had reverted to a default baro setting. So today I loaded the new bin with the Centi mapping ( which has different load and rpm break points) into the new ecu and fired it up. A little ropey to begin with until I got the balancing and idle sorted and then took it for a ride. Straight away it worked really nicely, only complaint was very minor popping on the overrun. I tweaked the CO up a little from 0 and got that eliminated and it runs and rides like a champ. So time to put some miles on it and see whats what. Big thanks Paul, audiomick and Karsten for the assistance as well as Beard for Guzzidiag and the guys that helped it evolve into what it is today. It's a really good tool and in my case has been totally faultless to use. Ciao

It's only recently that I've noticed how sexy the curvy lines are on the V11s from the rear, but I must admit, I think there is a design conflict when the reflection behind you is measured in acreage not square inches, js,lol.

I'm speechless docc you've set the bar very low there:). If you need mirrors that big you're not riding fast enough.Dead flies on the back of the helmet? Ciao

Rizoma snobs.

I purchased this bike 13 years ago from Ken Johnson at Atlas Cycle in Tulsa, Oklahoma just before Ken retired and sold the business. Ken told me that it had been on display at the shop for many years. The bike hadn't been licensed for the road since 1977. All of the tinware retains its original paint. The frame and other black bits were re-painted, and the rusty hardware was cadmium plated. I tore the bike down, ordered a Gliardoni cylinder set and for the next 12 years the bike was in boxes. Last year I got serious about finishing it. Today I finished the wiring. I installed one of Greg Bender's fabulous wiring harnesses. I also installed his slick "relay solution" panel. Everything worked flawlessly. This was a very rewarding project!

That's funny, man. I know those guys and when I saw you tag onto them, I thought, "Sheeee-it!" (We really do say it like that when we're up in the mountains. Inside our helmet where no one can actually hear. )

Thanks Docc

I did edit my post. But yeah, being the "flat lander", I had a bit between my teeth to catch those Tennessee boys that were making a break. And yeah, I didn't get past you for two (or ten) miles. Despite being pretty stupid of me since the sun and shadows were near blinding me. You're good sport and have a great sense of humor (as I intended). (Next drink is on me)

Thanks john and a dullard you are not. I read your wiring post on the Sfida and was impressed. The 15M is from my limited knowledge of such thing a very similar electronic architecture to the 16M but is only half the size and has the flash ability so no need to burn chips etc. You can then simply email maps to people and they can download it via Guzzidiag in literally 15 seconds to your bike. Plus you can make changes directly to the mapping on your computer and then load the file to the ecu without burning chips etc. Once I've got my map fully sorted I'll be able to provide it freely to anyone that does the same project or has a need for the same ecu mapping combination. I've got to check the cold starting first. The other thing is that the 16M would be difficult to fit dimensionally under the V11 seat. The seat base comes very close to the stuff mounted under it and It keeps all the original wiring and ecu connectors etc. Much neater. I made a special long socket to deal with the oil pressure switch by welding and machining up 2 sockets. Along was too long and a std was too short so I made one in between. There's an image here somewhere. For the head feed my crank cases were under machined so as I mentioned you couldn't get a thin walled socket on the banjo head and an Open ender also had limited throw so it ended up a little under torqued. I pulled the fuel pump off and tied back the breather hose to achieve some added room and made up an open ended ring spanner and a 3/8 drive socket with the side cut out of it. It's still hard to torque up but it's doable now in situ. I'll post some tool images. So, the special oil pressure switch socket I made from a 22mm x 1/2 inch drive and a 3/8 drive socket machined and welded together to get the correct length. The other 2 are for the head feed line off the cases banjo. Note the high quality ring spanner I sacrificed ( inherited from someone) the cutout socket was one of my old AF Proto sockets in 11/16 which as a good fit on the banjo. I have no need for AF stuff anymore as I dont work on Boeings or any aircraft for that matter so I sacrifices it instead of one of my decent metric sockets. Still hurt though doing it to a Proto. I'm leaving the Oil pressure relief for now unless I have an issue or i get bored. 60 psi max is fine and as long as the hot idle is around 10 I'm happy as well. Keep up the good work John, I'll be interested to see how the cooler turns out. Ciao

Changed it Docc. I was too mean. (you're a nice guy)

They are certainly more elegant and functional than the stock Suzuki mirrors.

The gold lever blades look a little "in your face" in the images, there're not as bad in real life. Those levers are so nicely made and functional and dirt cheap on ebay. I rate them. The only improvement that could be made is that the tiny indexing ball for the span adjuster tends to rust but its a simple and cheap solution to source a few SS bearing ball from the bearing shop and replace them. Should have gone with the silver blades and adjuster. Ciao

This made me laugh at the warts I traded my stock-stalk mirrors for . . . Coupl'a Noxema jars.

Hey, this is a classy shot: And this one just sneaks in a peek of a Daytona motor. How frikkin' cool is that?!? Those really are very nice mirrors.

I'm so subliminally artistic it just comes without even being aware. Ciao

I was going to say something clever about the matching bins, but figured I'm on thin ice already . . .

So glad I got the bins in the shot docc:) Ciao

Pretty much any mirror is like a wart but you do need them on a road bike, at least until someone comes up with a decent helmet or cycle mounted rear vision LED screen. Here are mine, Rizzoma bought 8 or so years ago. As small and neat as I could find and still provide a decent rear view. Owing to my massive,broad and manly shoulders I have them extending about an inch past the bar tips but you can adjust them in further and down further if you want a more stealth look. Quality pieces. Ciao

Hi Docc, OK, for some reason I missed the fact that there was a 3.6º/540mV at idle spec....I can shoot for that. My idle rpm was based on guzzidiag. Thanks, Art

I don't "think" the angle of the nipples have to be opposite for the driveshaft to be balanced . The concern is the coulped front/rear driveshaft phasing . This is critical so anyone that doesn't understand should watch videos , look at these driveshafts w/slip yokes to fully understand what is going on . Historically , I have seen a lot of these in pick-ups . big trucks , etc. where the driveshaft has been removed and not reinstalled correctly . Study this until you KNOW what is right and wrong on a two-piece shaft .

I have bought two pairs of those same mirrors on ebay ages ago. Even down to the blue tint of the mirror glass. One pair was on my Griso, the other pair was on my Daytona. Currently I needed / wanted mirrors on our bicycles, so I grabbed a pair and installed one each on each of our bicycles. Sadly, the Griso is laid up with clutch issues and doesn't need them, while the Daytona needs a new battery.

So far as mirrors go, the Lane Splitters were worn out, the little springing mechanism gave out and the mirrors would blow back against the wind at speed. Typical of those mirrors. So I found some mirrors on EBay. They were about $25 (Guzzi content) and made from aluminum. Had a great style like $150 Rizoma mirrors, the glass has a little blue tint. They look and work great. (Much better than what Ducati calls as mirrors).

Heh, well, she has been on a roll-back a couple times in the last couple years. But this was more about taking bikes to see my brother and meet up with some Guzzi guys in Florida. Just could not bring myself to ride the length of Alabama . . . I really did intend to move this thread to "Banter" as I cooked it up as a spoof. Now, I would really like to see and hear what others have done with their mirrors. While lots of alternatives tend to be barends, I know there are others. Like @LuckyPhil's quality solution. Maybe he'll post them up here . . . If'n I can get him speaking to me again . . .

John? If it would be any use I've got a really good low mileage early Stelvio oil cooler gathering dust in the shed if you want a bigger one. Yours for nix if you think it might help.

Took the round OEMs off and put on a pair of $10 eBay sorta-flag-shaped mirrors. Better, but still not "there." Saw some Ken Sean bar ends on Amazon. Picked up a pair and found that the bungs would not fit in the alloy bars. So, ordered some Delrin rod and fabbed some up. The Ken Sean rubber was too soft in any case. Wider, but better view on the freeway/interstate/motorway/auto strada/Autobahn. And., they fold when parking in the garage. Still vibey, so I will probably drill a small hole and pour some epoxy or maybe polyester resin in the mirror bodies to change their harmonics.

Those might be functional but...............

Appropriately tilted - they’d go well as proper V11 man-sized winglets. Or if brake-linked & motorised they’d make swell air flaps! Fly-swats? That’s it. As per the T&C’s I couldn’t think of anything more positive to contribute. Locked.

Leaving this up 'til tomorrow hoping it gives some laughs, then I'll report myself to myself. What I like about my little barends how the bike looks from the side (I look at it like that a lot): long&low. Must agree about the undesirable width. Certain angles make me think "long horn steer."

The most absurd barend spectacle I could produce. Been plotting it all day . . . Cheers, LuckyPhil! You're a good sport! Wait'll I get them mounted to the fenders/wings of the ///M roadster . . .

Nobody's sneakin' up on my sorry @$$ again. Not even those spooky Scuras . . .

Yeah, baby! Ooooooh, yeeeeah!

True docc but the fun police make you have them:( Ciao

Hey, bud. Cobras don't need no stinkin' mirrors!

Submit an image for ratification please docc:) Ciao

Wasn't sure about posting another picture of my Corsa,, ( nick name ) But They All Do look pretty, right Wish I coud take pictures. And different backgrounds from all over. 360km ride, exelent seat and suspension, she can take it, we are not short of curbs up here. Cheers tom.

Dang, I liked those, too.

Although I agree that the stuff that's going is very serious and should be addressed, I still don't think a bike forum is the right place to discuss this. I've had so much sh*t in the past with political threads, that I've become very wary to allow it over here. That's why I'm locking this thread. From the forum rules you all agreed to when signing up: .... Having fun is good, we like fun. Please keep it positive and polite. We do not censor opinions or ideas on our forums but we do take action against posts and/or topics that could cause unrest in the community beyond a civil and polite disagreement. Political discussions are not allowed. There are plenty political forums on the web . ...

Proto and Blackhawk

Political threads are very divisive. I well remember when two guys that I know, like and respect.. one left and one right.. blew up Wildguzzi. That caused Luap's "no politics" policy. We, on this little V11 forum, won't cure the problems of the world.. as much as we would like to. My personal opinion is that we should just keep it V11S related.

That same shop refurbished (polished) and rebalanced my crankshaft & conrod/piston assembly. Indeed, he is very knowledgeable. They race with Duc's themselves.

Have you noticed how the topo maps of that area look identical to the regular road maps? I figure contour lines don't show up 'til a few miles into Georgia ... and then only at 20-feet intervals every 40 miles or so. Seriously, appears to have been a fine time for all. And that is what it's all about. Best, Bill

I see one more bridge at the Southern end of that. Seven Bridges Road by The Eagles: