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I’m suppose to go see those two Loops on Friday. Luckily I don’t have any room… or money.

I just used a bit of silicone on mine.......... seems to be just fine now. Ciao

Moderator disclaimer: 1) Yep, this thread content is borderline and could get out of hand yet. Honestly, I just watch how y'all are courteous to one another and basically moderate your own-selves. Good on ya. 2) After the initial "conversation" I made some posts relevant to the topic title. The (obvious) action seemed well accepted. 3) Yet, the topic title really does not reflect the intent of the OP, hence the topic was moved to this suforum for "banter." I've marked Scud's post about considering "epistemology" as the topic "answer" as this concept is deeply relevant to forums such as ours. From Jaap's founding of this site nineteen years ago (!), we have kept a knowledge based approach to sharing. I have found nowhere else (internet or otherwise) where folks are so willing to help one another. Still, there is this constant balance and tension between opinion/belief and fact/reality. Can we say epistemology is the reason oil and tire threads have the reputation they have earned all across the web?

I spite of my encouragement to go to the trouble to condition the Odyssey to get the most out of it, and take the load off of our nefarious charging system, an 80% PC545 has still been a vastly better performer for me than any other "power sports" battery I've ever seen or owned.

^^^^ I understand and do not necessarily disagree. That said, I view all such things through a "time, manner, & place" lens. What I say around my supper table, fire pit, and the like to friends are not things I say in motorcycle forums outside of "BS" subtopics. I loathe PC and all its fellow travelers, and, regrettably, it seems to have driven speech underground. Sad. But I also don't view every venue as a soapbox for my pet rocks ... and I assure you that I have a rock garden of those. So, if interested in any of those or in sharing yours, you and others here are welcome to come visit me in the Moto Grappa at the top of Virginia sometime, sit on the porch a spell, and sip something pleasant while we rant on about the decline and fall of western civilization. 1921 - 2021! Bill

Dynotec makes the Centauro look a bit better IMHO

It appears to be a little-known factory special: the Bella Russa.

I am here to say, the right wingman matters!

Crap............. that would have been good to attend. Still caged up here in Russia. Ciao

Out riding the mountain today. Discovered the hard way my battery is going kaput. 2 years on the money. But it was still a fun ride. Hot but fun.