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I'd have to disagree with the 'Anything is possible' supposition. How do you get a motor to make more power? The bottom line is you either have to get more molecules into the combustion chamber or you have to excite them more once they are there. Preferably both. Unfortunately the Guzzi Hi-Cams, both old and new, have several limiting factors in their overall design and engineering that preclude the ability to get significantly greater volumetric efficiency, thermal efficiency or mechanical efficiency, (Although the 'New' hi cam and to a lesser extent the MGS01 engines do have significant changes and waste reduction strategies incorporated into the design.). Whilst it might, conceivably, be possible to make the motor produce 120 RWHP to do so would make it very peaky and would gut it of bottom end and midrange. We've done a fair bit of experimentation on this with the Nuovo Hi Cam and the simple fact is that chasing top end is a fool's errand. The Hi-Cam is what it is. When mapped correctly and running a long pipe with a dB killer installed it will make *About* a genuine 100 RWHP. Doing all the stupid shit that people expect to work because they've been told it will by charlatans with something to flog, (Open airbox's, shitty air (Non!) filters, loud, short pipes, too much fuel etc.) may yield a handful of extra ponies up the very top but what makes the Hi-Cams so enjoyable, their incredible, flat torque curve and tractor-like ability to reel in the horizon with the twist of a throttle from any speed in any gear WILL be severely compromised. We know. We've done it. The results were disappointing and spoke for themselves. As I always say to people who say they want their Griso to make 130 HP? Forget it and love it for what it is. Don't try and make it into something it can never be. The early Hi Cam is less mechanically efficient than the later one so you're already behind the 8 ball there. There is no 'Magic Bullet', only 'Magical Thinking'.

First, you have to think about how the horsepower is being measured. If you are measuring it at the rear wheel, there is likely around 15% more power at the crank. So a bike with 100 hp at the rear wheel has probably around 115 hp at the crank. Then you have the old joke about how small Italian horses are.... As a former racer of Ducati's, I know all about inflated horsepower claims. Our Ducati racebikes would make an honest 75 hp at the rear wheel (two valve air cooled 750 twin). We raced against guys with similar motors claiming upwards of 100 hp at the rear wheel from their two valve 750's. Oddly, I don't think I ever had another 750 two valve twin motor past me on pure horsepower. I did get out motored by a guy on a Guzzi, but it was something near a 1400cc Guzzi big block. Wicked fast down the straight. Even compared to a Ducati 996 it was fast. I do agree with Pete, focusing on horsepower is not really what Guzzi's do well. But I really enjoy the power my Daytona makes and how it makes it. It is faster than the wife's V11, but more importantly it is how it feels. It feels like a hot rod, it is raw and visceral. Much like a V11, only more so. Is the valve train a great design? Probably not. But it makes more power than the two valve Guzzi big blocks it is based on and feels like it. And it doesn't eat itself. As long as the oil pump doesn't fail before I get around to replacing it, I should be good. And I hope my Lario holds together as well, less sure about that one than the Daytona. But so far both are doing great. And both are great fun to ride.

Valuation is interesting business, especially as these bikes are becoming twenty+ years old and each individual model/ color is only seen in relatively small numbers. (I don't know if they are "rare as hens' teeth ", but certainly "finer'n frog hair! ") An experienced member here spoke to me recently about valuation issues related to our model specific forum. The fellow has bought and sold a series of very nice V11 in recent years. I trust his opinion and he opened my eyes to a phenomenon that I had overlooked. And I paraphrase: Those of us with intimate knowledge of this model series tend to undervalue its current market value. Partly because we have a "long memory" of prior values and sales. Partly because we already have one (or more) V11 and would not pay a premium for another or a replacement. What this member opened my eyes to is that the biggest market looking for a V11 these days is not within our ranks, but comes here to listen to what we have to say. (Once, again, I say, "We are the world's foremost expert on the Moto Guzzi V11." ) My observation is that we saw the bottom of the depreciation curve for V11 several years ago and actual sales prices, recognition, and desirability have been steadily on the rise. Also notable are the recent high-end auction sales of a couple different Coppa Italia for ~10,000+ USD. Valuation is also spread across international boundaries over the continents. Asking prices in Europe have consistently outpaced those in The States, while I've seen our Canadian neighbors do some discounting to make their V11 more available to buyers across the border. With new owners coming to the Moto Guzzi V11, these folks are necessarily making comparisons to the cost of buying something similar from the same era (maybe a BMW R1100S? Ducati ST?). So, my joking (above) aside about "giving away silver Sports", values really have been on the rise. Don't give your V11 away. These are magnificent, unique, works of Italian art that offer a visceral and captivating motorcycling experience. Remember, we have a responsibility to our stewardship: We are the world's foremost expert on the Moto Guzzi V11!

Oh man, I didn't know. Well rules are rules I guess. Just a mere matter of the $5K handling fee. :-)

You have to give the silver ones away. I can have my shipper there Tuesday….

Thanks for all the help guys!!!!

If you aren't running a sloppage sheet it's advisable to run the oil level as high as you can get away with without it being pumped out into the airbox. If you're running a plate run the oil level just below the plate.

Okay, so been thinking... bike right now is in shop to get sorted out after sitting for 2 years (except for occasional startups and 2 short rides). Getting a rebuilt caliper and disc on rear. Has always run well and pulled strong and did so on way to shop, albeit without a rear brake. ;-) But I think I'm going to sell it. I don't ride it enough and thinking of buying a convertible my wife and I can take around more comfortably. My weekends are fully taken up with kids baseball tournaments, etc. for the next several years, so really just no time for it. So what's the market for a 2000 Silver Sport @12k miles Has had a handlebar conversion, mistrals, open airbox, aprilla Mirrors, Guzzi luggage. Have all original parts, plus a Magni fairing which I could sell together or separate. bike looks great, a little faded porkchop. but otherwise excellent. David

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A picture speaks a thousand words...

I bought a left-over 2009 Piaggio MP-3 in 2012, NOS (LOL) ronkom

Virginia Titled '05, title issued when bike is sold. I emailed owner to check the ID plate for a build date & correct his ad. ronkom

2005? Hmmm.

I used a cup wrench to tighten the filter. Ok I"ll drain the oil then pull the filter out and remove the extra gasket .Do you check the oil with the dip stick screwed in or not?

It should take a second or a second and half to extinguish the Low Pressure Light after an oil change. Most common cause is the old oil filter gasket stuck on the motor and now you have double filter gaskets and no oil pressure. Inspect the old filter that came off to see if its gasket is missing. Pull the new filter and inspect for the double gasket/seal. I would do this before starting again. Certainly before riding it.

There have been endless claims for stupid HP figures for Guzzi Hi-Cams both first and second generation. Certainly the MGS had substantial lightening and friction reducing additions to the early Hi-Cam but whether these would of been sufficient to glean the boost to performance claimed I remain fairly skeptical. The internet is also awash with claims of stupid power increases with the 2nd generation Hi-Cam. Usually coupled with a breathtaking ignorance of the laws of physics and bucketloads of 'Magical Thinking'. In this, as with so many other examples of idiocy, I part my buttocks and break wind vigorously in their general direction.

One of the most perfect bikes ever made

what wall ?

Are those Tonti frames hanging on the wall?

P51 - to modeller very much hepcats' 'Saints' https://goo.gl/images/bGKFSi

Agreed ! Pretty young gal about my age

Her body would kill you. But it might be worth it.

http://s14.postimg.org/h12lev329/tumblr_n34wwhrrr61rmdfgro1_400.jpg My favorite... http://s14.postimg.org/5d8jkbdxd/7f38330ba1d702dc57ad18331cf87d25.jpg http://s21.postimg.org/cq87r278n/d199b2ef3e07a7caf058770add2bda26.jpg