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Looks more like a glimpse of the promised land.

(200 kb only sucks with these sorts of topics) My wife thinks I’m on another oil thread... 🥸 Now, do you reckon that’s about 5W30 weight? Yes Darling, coming... Phwoarrr! That’s one well lubed Italian Nevada right there!!

Probably not exponential. Certainly not crazy (except for those Coppa Italia sold at high-end auctions), yet "incremental" appreciation, definitely up from their bottom of a few years back. I would like to think proper service records, analog as they might be, make a difference. Yet, that might just be me liking to think.

Valuation is interesting business, especially as these bikes are becoming twenty+ years old and each individual model/ color is only seen in relatively small numbers. (I don't know if they are "rare as hens' teeth ", but certainly "finer'n frog hair! ") An experienced member here spoke to me recently about valuation issues related to our model specific forum. The fellow has bought and sold a series of very nice V11 in recent years. I trust his opinion and he opened my eyes to a phenomenon that I had overlooked. And I paraphrase: Those of us with intimate knowledge of this model series tend to undervalue its current market value. Partly because we have a "long memory" of prior values and sales. Partly because we already have one (or more) V11 and would not pay a premium for another or a replacement. What this member opened my eyes to is that the biggest market looking for a V11 these days is not within our ranks, but comes here to listen to what we have to say. (Once, again, I say, "We are the world's foremost expert on the Moto Guzzi V11." ) My observation is that we saw the bottom of the depreciation curve for V11 several years ago and actual sales prices, recognition, and desirability have been steadily on the rise. Also notable are the recent high-end auction sales of a couple different Coppa Italia for ~10,000+ USD. Valuation is also spread across international boundaries over the continents. Asking prices in Europe have consistently outpaced those in The States, while I've seen our Canadian neighbors do some discounting to make their V11 more available to buyers across the border. With new owners coming to the Moto Guzzi V11, these folks are necessarily making comparisons to the cost of buying something similar from the same era (maybe a BMW R1100S? Ducati ST?). So, my joking (above) aside about "giving away silver Sports", values really have been on the rise. Don't give your V11 away. These are magnificent, unique, works of Italian art that offer a visceral and captivating motorcycling experience. Remember, we have a responsibility to our stewardship: We are the world's foremost expert on the Moto Guzzi V11!

Fair enough. 122 rear wheel is not likely at all - or the motor was tuned to the edge thus making it a grenade. And, since the term bragadoccio is Italian, one can figure that it was at the crank, on a cool day, with avgas, on a slightly out of certification dyno and with refreshments from nearby Peroni. Never seen a dyno run of an MGS. For comparison (the same caveats apply) the 1187 liquid cooled Morini is rated at 140HP in street form. Can either figure be true? Or just true conjecture.

The Nero Corsa I just imported from Germany ended up with import tax [ $ 2400 ] close to $ 10800 I didn't buy the bike to sell, so to me she is worth it. Any time is a good time to buy a V11,, The prices will raise, but that doesn't matter if,, not for sale. Saw the other day, first MK Le Mans i 2010 was in the price range 2-2.5000£ - 2019 climbed to 15000£. Cheers tom.

If your not really needing the money just cover it, start it occasionally and Keep it...Kids grow up go to college and move away...a few years go fast...ask me how I know.

This thread had to be reviewed in its entirety. Your faithful Moderator. You're welcome. And thank you . . .

It’s more about justifying the purchase of a new “fun car” for my wife. Once the kids are out of the house I’ll buy a new motorcycle and at that point will want a 2-up anyway. I don’t get attached to things, makes it easier to have more variety. Someone else can enjoy this one and give it the love it deserves for the price I deserve

Thank you for trying for me, unfortunately no one has come forward. Lets hope that someone may see the post in the future and reply? Thanks again for trying, Tony.

Hmmm....looks like Paris.

Now , if you are going to use one brand of oil filter , find a "cup" that fits it and tighten your filter with it EVERY time You are going to have to develop an "aircraft maintenance" quality method and workmanship . If not , you will end up disappointed and have a 800lb. piece of junk

Thanks just wanted to see if there was some crazy exponential appreciation in value. Either way I’ll come out of it pretty good

Yah, eight to ten million lire seems about right . . .

I agree docc. I take a pragmatic approach to value and believe that value of a particular item is set at the point of sale. That doesn't help someone trying to decide what to ask. Face it, Guzzi is sort of an odd bike in the US, and spine frames are even more unusual. Real value is found in the passion of the buyer and the disconnect of the seller. Dealerships don't care so they ask for the moon. IMhO, one penny less than $3000 for your bike is giving it away and anything over 5k is flirting with high retail. That said, "there's an ass for every seat" a dealer friend once told me. Start high, see what washes up.

Word!

If you aren't running a sloppage sheet it's advisable to run the oil level as high as you can get away with without it being pumped out into the airbox. If you're running a plate run the oil level just below the plate.

Interesting question! Not sure about the rest of the world, but US spec V11 were sold with an "evaporative fuel recovery system." Vacuum lines were connected from the intake vacuum taps to two charcoal canisters parked in the tool tray under the seat. (The tool roll was shoved into the Monkey Paw Trap in the tail section. ) The canisters were, then, vented through two 1/2" double-wall USA-made fuel lines to below the back of the gearbox. The entire apparatus involves the two charcoal canisters and twenty feet (Yes, 20 feet!) of half-inch US fuel line. The total mess weighs an impressive five pounds (a whopping one percent of the V11!) So, very common to see this mess removed and either the vacuum taps capped or just connected together. Does five pounds matter? Heh, well try to lose 5 pounds/11 kg and see how it works out. Too much Crême Brulée for me to skip. I'd rather ditch extra crap-add on the V11.

Ha, thats nothing , next time you are in the UK check out Nora at the Lawnmower Museum. Remember, owning a Guzzi is all about accepting reality.