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My 2003 Rosso Corsa

They'd never be able to make competitive 'Modern' power with an OHV set up. The reason the TB/s are central and the exhausts exit on the outer edges of the heads you can tell it's a DOHC set-up as the cams have to run in the same plane as the crank. if you look at the Caponord 1200 motor you can see a lot of similarities. I can't do photo's here, I always forget how, but if you look at a Caponord engine in the parts list you can see where the idler gear shaft I and then the two camshafts under the head cover. It's standard Piaggio/Aprilia design and mimics a lot of the engineering in the Rotax motors used in the RSV twins. I'm looking forward to seeing what else is in the motive unit. People we're always wingeing that the Gen 2 Hi-Cam *Only* made 100hp. I always found it amazing that it did! It's a very compromised design but it will make 100 rear wheel ponies and not a lot more, no matter what people claim. To get serious HP and meet E5 a DOHC and water cooled powerplant was the only way forward. Unfortunately the forced adoption of OBD II protocols spells the death knell of remapping by aftermarket sources and home tuning. From here on in we're at the mercy of the manufacturers. Bring on the E bikes and whatever comes after them and let's stand at the stern rail and wave our handkerchiefs in farewell to dirty old fossil fuels! Our grandchildren will thank us.......

2003 Rosso Corsa, 04 Le Mans, and my 05 MT01 the Master of Torque

Basically it can fall until it's below the level of the pick-up. Oil has three functions, to clean, to cool and to lubricate. As long as there is a supply it can do all three but the lower the volume the hotter it will run so the less well it will cool. The amount of contaminants in it will proportionally increase as the volume diminishes so it's like trying to wash yourself in dirty bath water. It will keep lubricating though to the bitter end. It's only when flow to the bearings is interrupted that chaos and destruction ensue! Of course the lower the level the greater the chance on a V11 of the pick-up being exposed under acceleration and if that happens? It's all over Red Rover! In a matter of seconds!

Take another read on that ad. New tires, all fluids changed, spare parts and manual are all included. And you have yourself one of the rarest and most desirable models, which is likely to maintain value or appreciate. I have no connection to seller... aside from this forum. (But I can confidently say that Chuck's Scura is faster)

I'm just patiently waiting fot a new LeMans or at least a Griso replacement. I mean the V85s are cool and all but when you've been riding V11 Spineys for years a V85 can still seem a little meh. And the 1400 is cruiser and more of a freight train. This motor reborn into another kind of Tonti style or spine frame would be just pretty. Or both. Guzzi should get this done with and make a reborn retro s1000 twin shock deal and then a sporty modern single swingarm deal.

There appears to be a lot of excitement about this, of course, so the various posts will just run their courses. Yes, it is about "Newer Models" , but also about the "Centenary", and seemingly applicable to other threads as well. Have at it, y'all. Classically unmoderatable content. Like everyone pulling up to the riverside and letting their dogs loose to run and romp and splash. Best to just stand back and don't get muddy!

Do you mean the V85TT? The Stelvio was discontinued. I think last year of production was 2017, which is the year I have. And mine is a fine machine. Today, it passed through Pauma Valley via a couple dirt roads. Then filled up with 25 pounds of oranges, 20 pounds of ruby red grapefruit, Mexican mangos, Reed Avocados, passion fruit, and a bit of ginger. All that in the saddlebags and top case with room to spare. So I had a back road, fruit stand adventure.

There's also some info in the topic "Encyclopedia of Compatible Parts" If you scroll through that, you will also find a reference to upgraded titanium pins that the pad backings slide on.

I've ridden Chuck's bike, and it is a fine example of a Scura with some go-fast mods that you would not want to undo. If that's available, it would be worth the trip. And be careful shopping, because not every V11 is a spine-frame. The nice custom on the prior page did not start life as a V11 Sport or LeMans, it probably was a cruiser when new. Moto Guzzi used the V11 engine in a lot of different motorcycles.

My favorite color combination. At the Oregon nationals, I met a couple from Iowa that had ridden there and camped, two up. Certainly one of Guzzi's best traveling machines. The long travel suspension just eats up highway expansion joints. I was on Darth Quota at the time, riding from SoCal to Oregon with Pete on his Grease O. For that trip, I had the better machine, IMHO.

(Source: http://forum.animaguzzista.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59418&start=800)

I don't see much LeMans in that. Looks like a swoopy Quota to me. Got a long ass swing arm/final drive....looks to have trans in the crankcase... looks like a catalytic converter just behind the side stand. Until we get some nice clear pictures or someone puts eyes on it ....well ,down here we call that "pissin in the wind " Not much of an electric fan myself. Thought it would be great for the wifey then I decided I did not want to be on call for the remaining days of my life fetching her cause she did not plug it in. In the mean time, I will burn all the petrol I can cause thats what runs everything in my garage.

The mention of UK manufacture is to maintain confidence in the brand. So many companies are turning to 3rd world and emerging nations for manufacture. Brazil, Thailand and many other nations are now relied on for major brand tires. On a car, failure is a disappointment. On a bike, it can be fatal. Confidence in both brand and quality of manufacture carries much weight in my mind. As a company, Avon has over 100 years of experience in both car and motorcycle tires. Do they make a top level racing tire? Don't know and I believe it is irrelevant to the street rider. I have ridden on their bias ply tires for just over 20 years and wet or dry have not had an issue.

Please don't misunderstand, alternatives are fine with me. I know it's coming. I don't deny progress or inevitability. Doesn't mean I have to like it, endorse it, welcome it, want it, or wish it. "bring on the E bikes?" ok, so the E bikes are here and I'll watch them fail, fail, and fail in sales... until governments prop them up, younger people buy them, and people like me are gone. A friend once said to me, while watching a very bad movie "just because they make a movie, doesn't mean you have to watch it" ...drunk, but wise. There is a bigger conversation to be had about "the environment" and personalities, for one answer "why shite to that"...and that would be a but welcome conversation. People (enthusiasts) my age have the unfortunate advantage of watching the demise of ICE's. Those who welcome/encourage it I would say, don't understand the motorcycle experience the way I do. That's fine too, ... you do you , I do me,.. liberte'. I'm just an end user and don't give a crap about tech or green. All visceral, no pretense. I like to think that's why I'm here.

More dino burners for me. Electric? Ever see a Tesla on fire? Want to sit on one when it randomly goes hot while riding? Hot exhaust is enough for me. 😂

It's interesting that there are already two prototypes. Note that you can't see an obvious exhaust in the picture above while in the 'Spy' pics one is clearly visible on the left of the bike. The heads haven't been 'Turned', it's just the only real way to run a DOHC system if you keep the longitudinal crank. You could keep it 'Conventional' by driving the cams with bevel towers I suppose but it would be hellishly complex, sap more power and be heavier.

https://ducati-gowanloch.com/shop/brakes/brembo-gp-p4-3034-piston-seal-kit/ Ciao

I was all set to buy a Monster 1100 earlier this year (last of the air cooled), then this Greenie came up for sale, only 5K miles, and with a lot of money spent by the previous owner (new clutch, frame & swing arm powder coated, belly pan and lots more including a LeMans style bikini fairing that I’m yet to fit). The price was right, next thing I know it’s in my garage next to the others. The Monster will now have to wait until next year….

For 2002 model V11

That's what we need Chuck. Bring-back the bacon-slicer flywheel with a big single. hahahahaaaaa I have been ruminating about an ice-blue LM1 custom treatment on a V11. I have a large pile of parts begging to roll again.

Apparently not bad enough. 38K miles are too much? On a Guzzi?

sorry, yes. The V85TT is (according to Moto.it) the model that currently sells the most amongst all the current commercialized Guzzi.

I checked before posting mine, but I did not check the 24/7 V11 thread. I assumed since this was a new model, it had to go to New Models. I only became aware that it was a duplicate too late.

Only a V11 Sport/LeMans will do...I want one bad.

There are at least three current threads with common content, maybe four. Frankly, merging is a disaster. Anyone interested will just have to follow them all. Anyone posting should decide which thread to focus their efforts on and try not to post and reply in all of them.

Room reserved, bringing both bikes, and a few extra bits for not having my spine anymore....

@andy york you are looking at what Piaggio marketing team projects. The European stats say that among the best selling bikes, the "Adventure" type is (very) successful. According to the Italian sites that I peruse, the Moto Guzzi Stelvio is MG's most purchased model actually among all the V7 iterative release. Every brand makes something to compete with the BMW GS, the reference, and the most successful model in some European countries. In Europe, every year unveils new pollution norms that bikes submitted for certification have to abide by. This is the reason for listing the anti-pollution norm in the "for sale" listings; typically, the V11 comply to EURO 3. The current norm is EURO 6. Next will be EURO 7 which protocol should be decided and voted by the end of 2021, to take effect in 2025. Always more restrictive. Not many air cooled engine left out there, and cities are restricting access to those vehicles who can't meet certain targets. Pretty soon, the US will be one of the few countries in the developed world to still allow us to ride our bikes everywhere we want, for better or for worse...

Oh but they do!!! (make racing tires) They have a specific line, including for racing side-cars. https://www.avontyres.com/en-us/tyres/?cartype=motorsport I will put Avon in my bucket list...

What happened is the world changed and business realised it had to change with it. It's not 2011 any more, any more than its 1981, no matter how much some old men with their heads in the sand want it to be!

https://mediasetplay.mediaset.it/video/studioaperto/alla-scoperta-delle-moto-guzzi_F310639101470C09

wouldn't matter if they did the "competitive" guys will stay with whatever they perceive as the competitive edge... and that will always stay in front of Guzzi money. me too shite to that. And our grandchildren? they'll view us as lucky fools no matter what we do.

Pete, I don't know about rear suspension but my '98 EV works fine in the corners. Maybe it's because of the relative (low) power of the engine, the length or stiffness of the drive shaft, but it handles pretty well.

Here we...go. I'm not impressed with the design. Looks like the CARC rear box, though. I'm sure it will be an amazing machine, but the style lets me down a little. I'm fine with eventually breaking with tradition, and going water-cooled, turning the heads, etc. It still looks unmistakably like one of Mandello's finest...but it only makes me lust after a crude and beefy V11 LeMans/Sport even more. If Guzzi were wise, they would use this platform to bring back the LeMans with retro style like BMW's R9T. I hope this machine sells well.

Bought o.j. n in eBay

No torque arm from the bevelbox like the Spineframes or, in the case of the CARC bikes, the reactive bridge within the bevelbox. This works to separate the reactive forces of the drive, (As you accelerate/decelerate the pinion tries to climb up or down the crownwheel.) by delivering them directly to the frame. This means that to far greater degree than with a *Fixed* system the drive is separated from the suspension functions meaning a shaft drive bike will handle more like a proper motorbike. It wasn't so important when engines were only making 40-50 hp. Nowadays? Far more important. Looking at this thing there doesn't appear to be a reaction rod and the bevelbox is bolted solidly to the swingarm. The swingarm is very long which is another way of lessening torque reaction but cruder and less effective. If you look at it holistically it's an interesting package. Seems cam drive is typical Piaggio/Aprilia with a chain to an idler shaft in the head and then the cams geared to the idler, (That is to a degree speculative but the circular *Plug* in the back of the head looks like the idler shaft spindle plug on something like a Shiver or Caponord.) Throttlebodies in the valley, side exit exhausts as you would have to have with a DOHC design. Downdraft induction means modern power outputs are possible at last. It still looks like the gearbox is behind the engine but there is no recognisable bell housing so maybe a wet multi plate clutch? Where it is positioned will be interesting. Look, it's, at first glance, a lot better than I was expecting. I was genuinely afraid they were just going to throw a water jacket and an extra plug at the V85 motor which is a miserable little thing. This at least is a *Modern* engine. The styling is neither here nor there. This can be the basis for several platforms and models and Piaggio seem to be following the Aprilia lead established with the CARC bikes of launching the *New* product in a 'Plain Jane' model, (The Breva was the first CARC big block and its styling was not exactly eye catchingly beutiful!) While I would of preferred something that started the move away from fossil fuel power this is to me the next best option. Will I be buying one? Hell no! I'm very happy with my current fleet and I'll be very surprised if when it's launched here it has a price tag under $25,000. Sorry, I'm not willing to shell out that sort of coin on what I see as a dirty, outdated technology. My current dirty, outdated technology will see me out and I don't owe a penny on it! I do hope it is a raging success though and spawns many, prettier offshoots.

The photo doesn't seem to match the beauty of any of the spineframe bikes. Hopefully, we'll be pleasantly surprised when the bike is revealed. For me it's late to the party since I purchased my Ducati. But I hope to get a test ride.

Hi to All , My Greenie was pinging a bit on the original pipes and now runs absolutely perfect with mistrals without altering anything. A Complete Pavarottisation!

I agree.... keep the bike original

What about this one? https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/1998-Moto-Guzzi-V11-Custom-Cafe-Racer-5017289453 1998 MOTO GUZZI V11 Custom Cafe Racer, This is not your neighbors puttering V7- this thing really hauls! Custom V11 Cafe Racer build with only 27k original miles on the bike. This classy Guzzi was completely disassembled and rebuilt with meticulous attention to detail, the frame was media blasted & repainted, and all unnecessary tabs/brackets were removed from the frame and customized for the solo seat set up. New front cafe fairing and rear tail bubble were added, complete with new handlebars, grips and bar end mirrors. The brake system was converted to true dual front brake calipers for extra stopping power. Got a new classic chrome Guzzi fuel tank and the fuel lines were replumbed to work with the internal fuel pump and filter. The engine has been thoroughly cleaned, all fluids have been changed and new oil and new air filters have been installed. A Power Commander has been wired in for fine tuning (under left cover) which has tracking, tuning, and monitoring capability, this fuel tuner can easily and effectively optimize the air/fuel ratio to your preference. New shocks have been installed with an extra set of heavier springs to dial in specific rider preference. New rear set foot controls, low profile LED turnsignals front & rear. Brand new Pirelli Demon tires were installed and the showstopper is the new exhaust pipes that give a unique, deep and powerful sound. You will not see another one like this, truly one of a kind!

No, Italian. Ciao

I can also vouch for BevelHeaven. I ordered some fasteners from them (very impossible to source), and they make new ones. Not pricey, when you NEED the parts to stay on the road. Love them.

All of the Cali 1100's wear the famous 'Flaccid Whale Penis' petrol tank which, in my view, detracts from their appearance.

BREMBO PARTS This place has good prices on some Brembo parts like master cylinders and calipers..ships fast and seems like a nice guy on the phone Many of the earlier Ducati's like the 748/996/Monsters use the same stuff as the V-11's https://store.bevelheaven.com/index.php?p=home

The Lemans...

Dino Fagiolini, il temerario Fagiolini il primo pilota che in curva apre la gamba per migliorare la velocità. Un antesignano, un temerario ! Vince la Sua prima gara a Busto Arsizio con una Moto Guzzi Condor nel 1951. Corre con ottimi risultati piazzandosi due volte al secondo posto nel campionato Italiano. Arriva quarto alla Milano-Taranto e ottavo alla prova del campionato internazionale a Monza nel 1954 con una Moto Guzzi Gambalunghino davanti a 100.000 spettatori. Un grave incidente in Francia a San Gaudens lo ferma per lungo tempo togliendoli l’opportunità offertagli dalla Guzzi di diventare pilota ufficiale. Riprenderà correndo le ultime edizioni della Milano-Taranto e poi apre a Lumezzane una concessionaria Guzzi. Pilota generoso e spericolato, aveva un gruppo di tifosi che fondarono il club ” Fagiolini il temerario”. Lo seguivano in tutte le gare esponendo lo striscione con il nome del club. Oggi rivive grazie al restauro delle due Moto Guzzi che la vedova Fagiolini aveva conservato gelosamente. Dino Fagiolini, the daredevil Fagiolini was the first driver to open his leg when cornering to improve speed. A forerunner, a daredevil! He wins his first race in Busto Arsizio with a Moto Guzzi Condor in 1951. He runs with excellent results, finishing second in the Italian championship twice. He finished fourth in the Milan-Taranto and eighth at the international championship test in Monza in 1954 with a Moto Guzzi Gambalunghino in front of 100,000 spectators. A serious accident in France at San Gaudens stopped him for a long time, depriving him of the opportunity offered him by Guzzi to become an official driver. It will resume running the latest editions of the Milan-Taranto and then opens a Guzzi dealership in Lumezzane. A generous and reckless driver, he had a group of fans who founded the club "Fagiolini il temerario". They followed him in all the matches by displaying the banner with the name of the club. Today it lives again thanks to the restoration of the two Moto Guzzi bikes that the widow Fagiolini had jealously preserved.

OEM Part Name: Fuse Block Moto Guzzi Part Number: GU01743030 Replacement Part Brand or Source: ATC & ATO available at Del City (see attached photo) $11 Part number or other identifier: "ATC & ATO Block - 8 way" Comments:. This is the exact OEM fuse block that Guzzi used in my 03 Le Mans

It's hidden on Page 42 of the Parts Catalogue: 17768750

OEM Part Name: Oil Pump Roller Bearing 10x22x20 Moto Guzzi Part Number: GU 92252210 Replacement Part Brand or Source: VXB.com Ball Bearings Part number or other identifier: TAFI102220 Differences from OEM (if any): unknown Website link for source: Vxb.com | https://www.vxb.com/TAFI-102220-Needle-Roller-Bearing-10X22X20-p/TAFI102220.htm?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9JzoBRDjARIsAGcdIDUslO9SQER-yicoUNRjbgM-2KopqbeCA3flFYA_HUbx1zJ2tHouzTIaAiBVEALw_wcB I just ordered one on Amazon for $20 delivered. Harper's has them for $42, MG Cycle doesn't have them at all. So I thought it might be helpful to post an alternative. Crusty looking photo is the oem part from Harper's: This photo is from the the VXB website: