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UPDATE: VTwinStorm is indeed a dumbass and left his precious V11 Sport keys (all three of them) in his car (tiny sliding tray in the dash that I put them in). Docc, please file this under "D'oh!!!" I have now separated the rings, erm, keys, one to ride the V11, one to dream the V11, one to rule all the V11 Sports...The one true key is three! One in the safe, one in my key wallet, and the last one in my OTHER safe!!! I'll never make this potentially devastating mistake ever again. KINDOY2, thank you for being there for me, if the devastating loss of all three (I'm such an idiot!) of my keys were lost. I love this forum, I love all of you fine V11 riders, and most of all, I love my V11's keys!!! Thank all of you for being so supporting as I was scrambling to get things sorted. Was a long day at work, but I am happy I didn't have to shell out another $1K-1500, after I just spent $2K USD for a full top-to-bottom servicing with new tires! Whew!!! I feel like drinking now... I say this all the time, but I can't wait to ride my V11 in the Spring!

Hello from Norway. I bought mine from Germany this year, unnumbered, with the german flag. Now as the winter is here I am doing some upgrades..😀👍

Once I looked "everywhere" for 15-20 minutes only to find the damn thing in the seat release lock. Fortunately for me nobody saw my little breakdown.

That's the first thing I would try. Ciao

I don't know of any grease that actually conducts electricity, take your multimeter on Ohms and see, take a picture and post it here if you find a conductor. Vaseline has been used by electricians for 100 years or more, its especially good on battery terminals and ground connections, what it does is protect the metal from Oxygen, no Oxygen = no Lead Oxide. Lead Oxide is an insulator, you can prove this to yourself by touching your Volt meter leads to the battery posts, chances are if you haven't scraped them clean you won't get a connection until you jab the terminals through the oxide layer, on moving contacts Vaseline lubricates the contacts to stop them wearing. I swear by this stuff, I never work on bike electrics without it. I dip wire in it before I crimp a lug on, they never corrode that way. Actually any grease will deter lead oxide formation, Vaseline is cleaner than most. I wouldn't use Dielectric grease i've seen too many bad reports on it, I have no personal experience because I never use it, I believe its good for plug leads however, I would use it there. The starter current doesn't pass through the ignition switch, it's the current to the starter solenoid coils this can be over 50 Amps for a split second. Once the solenoid pulls the gear into mesh and the main contacts close it drops to about 10 Amps. If your dash lights are dimming it's either too much resistance in the switch or a bad battery or ground connection. It could be the battery of course, the test below will check that. The easy way to troubleshoot the starter is to take a wire and touch one end to the solenoid spade connector and the other to battery positive, if it cranks that proves the battery and starter are both ok. Do this with a Voltmeter across the terminals and it should hold around 10 Volts while cranking. A word of warning, make sure the bike is in neutral or the starter will launch it.

Earlier this year somewhere in the Belgian Ardennes.....

Good question. I looked at the "Carbon Conductive" grease mentioned by P6x Carbon Conductive Grease (mgchemicals.com). This "conductive grease" claims resistivity of 114Ω.cm. Since resistivity is the inverse of conductivity, then this is actually about as conductive as drinking water. (IE very poor) So anyway, I measured the resistance of silver goop and C5A copper anti-seize. The resistance of both was too high for my meter to measure.

^^^^ sounds like the two bullet connectors up by the steering neck?

Good feeling to find them. Something you might look for in any paperwork you may have received with the bike, is the key code tag. I have on a few occasions found that the previous owner was diligent enough and kept it with the extra 'pristine' key or taped it to a document to keep safe.

Damn Kin, you beat me to it. We got the CD delivered yesterday and then saw them on Colbert. I like this record, it doesn't quite grab like their first record but grows on me. David Hildalgo plays on several cuts. I saw them during their first tour a dozen years ago. Interesting enough, the Bob Weir record, Blue Mountain, has similar vibe.

Bravo!

That is exactly what happened to me with the RM Not sure how it all happened but couldn't believe it when I found them. Ciao

Is this not something a very good locksmith could make a key for? Use the helmet lock, taken off and taken in to the shop? I've not had one apart. Otherwise, buy the new stuff and you'll find your lost keys immediately

Yes an enhanced version of the system I made. Can't see it being used or should I say providing any benefit as you want as much dive as you can get as soon as you can get it on a sports bike or race bike more or less. Thats what flattens out the contact patch and provides the grip, the weight transfer from compression of the suspension and loading the tyre. No fork dive no significant weight transfer and a reduced contact patch. Ever see the GP riders crashing at 5 deg lean angle almost upright? Thats what happens when you start the turn in on the brakes before you've compressed the forks and loaded the tyre and why anti dive isn't used on race bikes. Interesting though. Maybe Aprilias engineers are too young to remember the 80's. Boeing had the same problem with their Newbie structures engineers when they designed the new Horizontal stab on the 737's. The engineering knowledge from the past seemed to have been forgotten or ignored by the new generation of structures engineers until they started having issues. The reasons were obvious to the older engineers. Thinking about it this system looks more like "dive control" than "anti dive". Maybe a way to isolate compression damping from the dive control equation although the explanation of it's operation seems at odds with that as you want the maximum dive initially to load the tyre and stop the rear lifting without upsetting the chassis too much. Riders currently can't apply max braking force initially and need to wait a fraction until the forks have compressed and flattened the tyre before they can ramp up the lever pressure. Time will tell and we'll see if it moves onto winning MotoGP bikes. Thats the test. Ciao

Mistral Crossover 99-02 V11 Sport & Le Mans w/ NO lambda port. Used but in very good condition. $350 new at MG Cycle, yours for half that: $175 plus shipping (from New Jersey, USA). Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

I did find a conductive resin (I know, too much junk lying about) and it was very conductive. The uncured "part A" measured at 2Ω over 10mm in a smear left in the lid. Nice, but I can't think of a use for it in my bike. It does tell me that a conductive paste is possible, but it would be bad in an ignition switch.

The show begins November 23rd, ends November 28th; If I am correct, the first day(s) are reserved and not open to the public. Moto Guzzi's main event will be the V100; however, there will certainly be some other variations on the usual V7.

@VtwinStorm I only have a single key to my Le Mans. I leave it in the ignition switch, when parked in my garage. There is no depletion since there is no transponder. MGcycle sells key blanks, so it is easy to cut one or two spares and store them. Then there are the Air Tags, which can also save the day, especially if you loose your key while away from home base.

Which should be addressed near the top of the list anyway because, A. it could be the problem and B. it will be a problem someday.

I received the Lithography yesterday, Nov 19th. It is #9 and it is really beautiful. I am now looking to get it framed and then I will take a picture to post here.

@Kiwi_Roy Thanks for the insight! I got your point about Vaseline; it is just that I never came across it before reading this thread. When it comes to logging oil wells, we want the continuity and insulation possible, under hydro static or effluent pressure, and temperature. And we test with Mega ohmmeters or in the case of Electrical Down hole Pumps, ESPs, Giga Ohmmeters. The exact symptom, in my situation: -I turn on the ignition switch, depress the clutch lever, depress the starter button, both neutral and oil pressure lights dim, nothing else. If I do not immediately release the starter button, the 15 Amps "key switch" fuse #4, described in the workshop manual page 46 in chapter 17 fuse terminal board, blows. Every time. Following your proposed trouble shooting root causes, I am convinced the switch is the culprit, but I will run the tests to exclude all the possibilities. The battery is new, and the terminals and connections do not exhibit any trace of oxidation. I took them off for good measure.

Can anybody really think of anything more embarrassing than wishing to have a 'Card' that has to be shown to indicate you are a member of a business sponsored advertising program called a 'Clan'? It is so monstrously cringeworthy it deserves a triple facepalm in a darkened room! Do these people have no dignity to loose? Just looking at the awful 'Presentations' used in early 'Clan' promotions made me feel soiled and my gorge rise. How dreadful can it possibly get?

By the way, in the background of many MotoGP world championship was a guy called Jeremy Burgess. An Australian engineer that has an track record that goes back to Randy Mamola, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Michael Doohan and finally Rossi. He prepared winning machines/riders with Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha and Ducati. Never forget the engineer in the background 😀

Awesome motorbikes,you will love it

Per l'occasione c'è anche un'iniziativa di The Clan L’AQUILA TORNA IN PRESENZA! EICMA torna a Milano Rho-Fiera dal 25 al 28 novembre e Moto Guzzi non vuole mancare! Noi membri di The Clan siamo ufficialmente invitati al Padiglione 18P - Stand E76 per festeggiare l’ultimo capitolo del Centenario 2021 e cominciare insieme il cammino verso il 2121 con un grande evento: il lancio al pubblico dell'attesissima V100 Mandello! Per chi tra noi ha già una Moto Guzzi registrata sulla community, l’appuntamento è presso lo shop nell’area MotoLive, angolo padiglione 18 - tessera The Clan alla mano - per approfittare di un vantaggio esclusivo sull’abbigliamento e il merchandising ufficiale dell’Aquila! EICMA returns to Milan Rho-Fiera from 25 to 28 November and Moto Guzzi doesn't want to miss it! We members of The Clan are officially invited to Hall 18P - Stand E76 to celebrate the last chapter of the Centenary 2021 and begin together the journey towards 2121 with a great event: the public launch of the highly anticipated V100 Mandello! For those of us who already have a Moto Guzzi registered on the community, the appointment is at the shop in the MotoLive area, corner of pavilion 18 - The Clan card in hand - to take advantage of an exclusive advantage on clothing and official merchandising of the Eagle!

Ciao Docc, dovrei farci un salto!

Thankyou Roy for confirming my belief in Vaseline! And for explaining how once I had battery terminal that "looked" perfectly fine but didn't conduct, probably was that nasty oxide.

I'll check everything after work around 7am...fingers crossed!

mission accomplished.. thx to all for your assistance. Ciao

Mission accomplished. thanks to all. Ciao

Thx all.............. mission accomplished. Ciao

I'm more interested in what the dyno says docc and the dyno says the Stucchi loses nothing in the midrange to the Mistral and has a whole lot more on the top end (6-8 HP, gulp). As a matter of fact the Mistral has less top end than the std cross over. Both are better in the midrange than the std crossover. I don't mind sacrificing a HP or 2 at the top end for more mid range grunt but 6-8 is a bit much for me. You need to cross reference between the 4th last and 2nd last graphs. Check the HP dif at 3500 rpm. 4 more to the Stucchi. It's just the torque dip is shorter and sharper with the Mistral it doesn't make better numbers in the midrange and for this you sacrifice 6 or 7 HP on the top end. Nah. https://www.bikeboy.org/v11sport.html Ciao

Well the second best for cheap. Good deal though esp considering you can't buy the Stucchi anymore. Ciao

Just wishing a good hunt, there was one in eastern europe a little while ago. I know the feeling, you just want a perfect beauty to take care of Cheers Tom

I "lost" the Centauro key one time when I'd stopped for a few minutes. Looked everywhere, pockets, made concentric circles around everywhere I'd been. Gave up on that, and found that somehow, I'd knocked the key out of the ignition when I shut it off, and it had fallen down between the tank and frame.

I think I have a spare complete set I would sell if you don't find them... LMK

Just get the spare keys you keep in a safe place and use them. Ciao

Thanks guys. It turns out that Harper's had NOS original Givi fly screen in black, hiding on the back shelf somewhere. It's now hanging on my back shelf awaiting installation.

Just to clarify, there are two distinct "no start" scenarios with the V11: 1) slow crank followed by solenoid clicking/ or just solenoid clicking, and 2) no action at all when the starter button is pressed. Case #1 is being discussed here, extensively, and can be multicausal. Case #2 will sometimes exhibit a sudden recovery as if nothing had happened. Sometimes this can be reproduced by holding in the starter button while rotating the bars lock-to-lock. If the starter suddenly engages with full force, the culprit is likely the bullet connectors for the clutch switch lock-out located on the left forward side of the frame spine beneath the tank.

Agreed. I condone everything you say. VR46 really did a lot of PR work for the sport. There will always be a before him, and after him. It is going to be tough for Dorna to keep the interest alive. Future will tell! Undeniably Marquez, pre 2020 injury, had/has something no other rider have. Some of the saves he managed, his riding style wrestling the front to his will, just out of this world. If it was not for his 2020 injury, I am not entirely convinced he would not have been able to challenge the Ducati, even this year. Now, with yet another vision problem, it is going to tougher. 2021 started as a very open Championship, until Quartararo seized it. Francesco Bagnaia seems to now have mastered the Ducati, and next year should be interesting. When you look at the raw power difference between the Ducati and the Yamaha, and the difference between Fabio Quartararo's result and the other Yamaha riders, if I was Ducati, I would put Fabio Quartararo on a GP23.

For me, I need to be able to root for some of the riders. I personally am not able to identify with any of the younger generations the way I was able to with the older guys. Probably because I am an old fart myself. In WSBK, I like the little bravado that is happening between Jonathan Rea and Toprak Razgatlioglu. I am a big fan of the way TR is riding. There is a race this week-end, the last one, and I recommend that you watch it.

Just back from a short 80 mile ride around the Derbyshire hills this afternoon, stopped in Matlock for fish n chips, parked the V11 next to the old red telephone kiosk

Frankly, this is a very familiar and fantastically sexy formula . . . Missing = 1) Exclusivity , and 2) Tanya Dexters (Instead, a concrete pillar)

Consider it done! Glorious 133 mile day on hilly backroads, almost no traffic (I did pass that one Porsche. Because I could.) Perfectly clear, dry 60ºF/ 16ºC. Not the greatest view, but gives an idea of the roads here. This is the point that mySport posted an honest 200,000 kilometers. And ran sooooo great all day!

Veglia needles are > both < still orange! Yellow "Witness Protection" goop still caked on the TPS Torx fasteners . . .

That's a sweet little time capsule. Practically hermetically sealed... original tires, even.

Jessus.......................

Here is picture.I fitted California panniers to her

"popcorn' emoji.