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Going thru Nero Corsa, new svingarm bearings coming this week, ( had to weld a nut and use a treaded rod and a Gardner piston pin to get them out )windage tray installed, 1 of those forever pawl springs, thanks C,, ( gear shifting was very smooth, now, feels more solid, spring differences about 20mm) , new o ring for Rpm sensor 0.7mm clearance it was. Will be busy for a few weeks, inside looked v nice,, ( no Castrol,,, oh well, lot's of oil changing ) outside another story. Yes it takes HOURS cleaning bolts, inside treads and and. But what's not to like, peaceful alone fiddling in the cave. It coud realy hard saying, OK It's late, tomorrow. Cheers Tom Sent fra min SM-A525F via Tapatalk

I’m holding three aces and I’ll lead with a V11

No that was mid stage without the front mount finished. This is the final version.

A good friend , loyal Guzzista and One of our founding members.....awesome Mike!!

The Griso is a beast...and a lovely one at that. I think of it as a modern day Centauro. I'd concur on getting one of the newer ones just to enjoy a bit of the newer tech...but honestly both versions (4V and 8V) are enjoyable. There have been a few of them up for sale recently on the Ghetto as well, but you have to jump and be ready to commit, as they definitely don't come up that often. I certainly hope they become a collector's item (even if not financially). It does feel good to have a 2002 V11, a 2008 Norge and a 2015 Griso, now if I could get my hands on a Green 2023 V100...that would complete the fleet and would last me forever!

I don't want to be the naysayer, but I would not keep my hopes too high on getting anything tagged V100 anytime soon; and I say this hoping I am completely wrong. The complete lack of information about such a novelty which has managed to inspire so many Guzzisti, or aspiring ones does not bode well with our expectations, or should I say: impatience? I am starting to look at my future in a different way than previously. Before, I could not care when, I knew I could wait. Nowadays, I am taking one day at a time. As I said in a different thread, I am going to make the most of my V11, because it is the present and the legitimate cue to my next ride.

Gauges are in place... but wiring to be done... Today, I fussed with the stock gauge cup and used household lamp fixture parts to position the little bushings where they would otherwise be on the ITI gauges. Superglue for brass cap-nut on the gauge. 80mm O-rings on each side of the gauges so they won't rattle. Last time I did this on a 2003 LeMans, I also installed a voltmeter and oil pressure gauge. Even though it was cool to have four matching gauges, they were kind of spendy and it was a real mess to wire it up. This time, I am hoping to get everything to fit inside the stock gauge cups (including the little cube inverter that powers the lights. Only two extra wires should come out alongside the stock harness - the constant power for GPS memory and the GPS input signal.

I finally found a license plate frame that I like. It's a whole sheet of silicone on the back. Super tight fit, drain holes in the bottom. No rattling and no sharp edge. Probably need to get a few more...

Grisoghetto. Those guys are hoarders over there, some of them have 2 Grisos justifying it as ‘one for around town & one for out of town’. You’ll only get one of them to part with a Griso at the funeral ! Just saying. 😆

The change over point from flat to roller tappets was early to mid 2012 but any plated 13 bike should be a safe bet WRT the tappet issue. The other big bugbear that CARC bikes suffer from is lack of grease in the swingarm and shock linkage bearings and this is exacerbated by the rather odd and poor swingarm bearing design. ANY CARC bike, unless it has previously been documented as done, should have its swingarm pulled and it's linkage bearings and swingarm bearings inspected as a matter of course and there is a very good chance on any bike,(Seeing that they are all at least five years old now.) that both the bearings and the linkages will need replacing. Once done and the bearings thoroughly packed with marine grade grease they can be forgotten about for several years before needing further attention. If the linkage bearings are shot it is generally cheaper to simply buy a new linkage than buy the parts needed to refurbish the buggered one. As for the flat tappet issue I have written a 'Definitive guide to rollerisation' which is published on Griso ghetto. We've performed well over 200 rollerisations now and make no mistake, all the flat tappet top ends will fail. Once rollerised further failures of other componentry is rare but not unknown so if seeking an 8V a post 2012 model is the best bet. It wouldn't put me off an earlier model, providing it wasn't high mileage, but fixing 'em up doesn't worry me as I could rollerise an 8V blindfold and with one hand tied behind my back! For the record my first 8V trashed its first motor after rollerisation but it was by then high mileage, (80+ K km.) and had its powerplant replaced with one from a 2012 'Roller' wreck. My second one is a low mileage 2010 flattie rollerised by someone else who didn't really know what they were doing but it seems to work OK. Yeah, I'm the saddo mentioned above who has two 8V's, one is my 'Spare' in case something happens to my 2008. Oh, and rollerisation kits are still readily available.

I tried to "like"yours, but being of short memory (and shortening more every day! ) got pulled over by the site's IT Carabinieri. Ditto here. I think I'll go look at that. Suspect I'm mere middle tier at best ... unless it counts "likes," as I do lots of those. Bill P.S. Edited this rather than making a new post to avoid allegations of padding my file. Anyway, I see I was once a "Past Leader," and, darn it, must have missed the party.

I have an '07 Griso 1100. It has basically an evolution of the V11 motor. It is stone axe simple and stone axe reliable. The newer Griso 1200 is more powerful. But it does have one potential reliability flaw. Up to around 2012 they had issues with tappet failure. The solution, it seems, was to replace the simple flat tappet set up with a roller tappet setup. It seems flat tappets stopped working..... As long as it is a later year Griso 1200, or it is an earlier year Griso 1200 that has been converted to roller tappets you should be fine. Or you can just go with a Griso 1100 (which seems to be fine with flat tappets). I personally don't mind the lower power of the 1100, but I would not turn down the extra power of the 1200 as long as it was a roller tappet example. More power is generally a good thing to me. I at first wished I had waited and got a 1200 Griso. And then they started failing. Now I don't feel as bad about getting the 1100. But I am really disappointed in the whole flat tappet fiasco. It was an engineering CF that should not have happened.

Point of order! I haven't been spending enough time here, as my "likes" seem to have stopped last summer. Maybe Kathi busted me? Anyway, so I started wandering through the thread -- and "daydreaming" as @nobleswood euphemistically calls it -- and mashing the "Like" button (and needing an "Especially Like" button for several). Then, just as I am getting rolling, I get this: That is so wrong. I'd call a lawyer, but don't know any good ones. Mods note that I followed the rules by including entire screenshot. Yes, I know; check out the thread more often and I'd not get that annoying pop-up. Bill

lovely. done,... x3

It takes a very special peace with the Universe to find this comforting . . . Don't feel alone, Brother!

Or go straight to the Griso Ghetto . . . https://www.grisoghetto.com/

@Bill Hagan I think this site's provider "invision community" still uses older techniques to keep the forum members to contribute. Since the majority of the people on this site are senior citizen or close to, I don't think it is necessary... In other words, "talking" to the forum is (sadly) one of the few remaining perk in life, for some of us. Unless of course, you do the ultimate thing: -riding a V11

aren't we all, mate.

Thx Docc. I may skip firing up the old B Gates laptop for now then, though greenie will need it. the broken bone needs to be “upgraded”, due to deeper issues. Steve Austin style is what I’m hoping, or maybe Sara Conners nemesis? Probably a month or more till they start, then lots of healing time.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a really well sorted bike. Lucky Colt - hope you enjoy it! Thanks, Pete. Good to see you're still alive & kicking. They still ask in the pub about the big baldy fella who dropped in for a beer one evening. I plead ignorance Scura exploded UJ some years ago, I got the bits to fix it but never got round to it. Tonti went in the shed to delink the brakes, but never came out. Hence my absence from this place. One day. All the best, mate. KB

I wouldn't do that myself. If you have a fuel spillage when filling it'll dump fuel on a hot engine and the cap vents through the other port as well. It doesn't only vent air into the tank but also vapours out at a pre set pressure and keeps any vented fuel fumes which are more dangerous than the liquid fuel itself away from the hot area under the tank. Thats the funny sound you here sometimes after a ride and you park the bike. The tank venting pressure into those fittings and lines. Ciao

How is that different than here?

It is there to save you from yourself. As in, you tip your V11 horizontal and this valve (supposedly) stops the fuel from exiting the tank vent. Early reports of this valve becoming disoriented (out of plumb), creating a locked tank vent (aka: "Tank Suck"), led many to orient them into a convenient bin.

Personally, I'd opt for a later 4-V per cylinder model. Same motor as my 2017 Stelvio, and it is a fabulous motor. Prices on the newer ones are still reasonable - especially when you factor in 10 years difference in age. From what I can tell, Guzzis at the end of a production run are generally better in many small respects than the early ones. And all those small things add up to make an overall much better motorcycle and ownership experience. If you're serious, you might take a gander at WildGuzzi.com as well.

That reservoir bracket is "adjustable." If you bend the tabs, you should be able to position it lower and closer to the starter cover.

Yes, second that clearance issue. On my first ride on the new to me V11, I pulled onto the main road and nailed it, great fun. At about seventy I rolled back the throttle....and it just kept on accelerating. My first stupid thought was to brake, probably not a good idea, visions of an exploding engine stopped me pulling in the clutch. Finally my little brain thought of the kill switch, never used one in anger before but it saved the day. To think I used to bypass those on some of my earlier bikes. Yes, the white knob had hooked around the reservoir cap, shame Guzzi never fitted a proper two way pull throttle cable setup.

One drains liquid from the top of the tank outside the fuel door (for fuel spills and rain water). The other lets air back in the tank after fuel is spent. I wouldn't connect them. In fact, European members have said their bikes came without any hoses at all. I have simply removed both vent lines and left the little fittings bare.

Thanks, I’ll take it. C.C. Rider.

A few attempts may have gone a wee bit awry So getting back in keeping alive the spirit of the thread… Gratuitous Pics of Girls + Guzzi

Let's say it wasn't exactly off the top of my head. Yet, a search for the flags of the provinces of Italy lead me to Lombardy. Investigating a flag for Mandello del Lario was unproductive, but asking about "Lecco" gave success! (I know to consider Lecco because of our good man, @v11_meticcio !) Such a very nice display, Sir! Welldone, as always!

Responding to this and other comments in this thread requires more time — and adult beverages of many choices — than the former, at least, permits just now. That said, I’ll take a quick stab before heading down to the Moto Grappa, donning a HAZMAT suit to clean the place, and finishing the service on the V7 III. This could just as easily have gone into @LowRyter ’s new thread about travel & grappa, but as I started it here, but will try to respond to some of his remarks here, too. Oh, this also descends in TLDR territory, but I do include some pix and even vids for the moto-visuals here. As for @footgoose ’s "provoked thoughts," here, in seriatim, are some comments: * First, apropos the mention of Putin, which I presume was understandably prompted by calling that beribboned bust by that name. That “yard art” was a gift from a sculptor friend many years ago. We only noticed the resemblance when I took the photo. I think I’ll change out the Italian ribbon for a blue & yellow one. This photo — taken earlier this morning at our front gate — should clear up any ambiguity of my view of current events … * PPK - Think that Walther was Steve’s, but I was on KP duty and missed most of the chatter. There are no special “gun nuts” in that group. OK, maybe one, who has been on History Channel for his artillery! I took this pic at his place as he fired one of his smaller toys … *Stelvio has a belt - Yes, alternator belt. Changing out the one on my Norge was, while not best done at the side of the road, much easier than on the Stelvio. * Curious Italian passers by. We wondered about that. One of my retired USAF friends was adamant that I was “wrong” to fly the Italian flag on the main pole. I told him that our property was — during MGTD, at least — Italian soil. This same guy is a great friend, but a widower with fixed views. He once told us that we had too many magnets on our refrigerator! Anyway, no doubt those flags and banners attracted attention. Anyone here know or care to guess what those two 3x5 flags are at the gate? * "And then, there's the possibility of the moniker "Moto Grappa" having a back story of some depth?" Yes. But, first, I’ll address @p6x ’s noting no grappa in the MGTD pix. Actually, there were at least two photos with grappa in them, but his point is well taken. Lest, however, anyone doubt my credentials — for enjoying, not knowledge — of grappa, see these … The first three pix are of "on hand" grappas; the last -- in the Moto Grappa -- are some that are dry but provided great memories. The Alexanders are gifts and, arguably, not even grappas ... but close enough even if "too smooth" for my peasant tastes. I tend to like the more “rustico,” even “bruto,” grappas over the more refined — I won't say effete, but that’s what I mean — ones, and I’ll say why, below. Now ... back to naming the Moto Grappa. The short version of “Why Moto Grappa" is a combo of these great bubbas and the “Carb Bar” on Caserma Ederle … [It’s possible I have gone over the top with that since …] … and Alpini reunions, mostly in Vicenza Province. This last was the clincher. It was the late 1970’s. These really old WWI veterans — I am about their ages now! — would gather, reminisce, and quaff grappa. What I knew about the Austro-Hungarian front in WWI was pretty much limited to Hemingway’s “A Farewell to Arms.” Well, here were The Guys who were there. Even when discounted 50% by time (and grappa), their stories were amazing and inspiring. That, BTW, is how I learned how to appreciate “homemade” and other more crude grappas over the fancier sort. While in Italy, I went on a “staff ride” of the battle here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mount_Ortigara. Though then 60 years later -- now more than a 100! -- we saw as we walked all sorts of debris of that struggle. I have a slide somewhere of a boot with a mountain flower blooming in it! The original foot that wore that boot most likely resides in the Ossuary at Asiago, https://www.venetoway.com/en/military-shrine-of-asiago/ OK, if you are still “here,” and even if not snowbound as is @ LowRyter, you might find these worth wandering through. https://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/italy/71-strada-delle-52-gallerie-italy.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_front_(World_War_I) As for comments in the replies that I found “thought provoking,” this of @p6x ranks first: "Lots of students coming to earn a few bucks, and housed on the domain too... no further comment.” You can’t just stop there. Off now to the Moto Grappa! Bill

Back in the day, lots of us would use that emoji to represent the elusive "gremlin" in our V11 . . .

Yeah, the Ohlins reservoir has to be carefully located to keep from interfering with the throttle linkage.

Enough! Have a nice Sunday before President's day.

New steering bearings are in. That's my second time doing them - it's really quite fun with the freezing of the steering stem, heating up the bearing, dropping it in place and then seeing it pressure fit. But it's a one-shot deal. If it doesn't go all the way down, you're probably hosed. And seating the races in the frame is fun. Had the lower triple clamp powder coated, along with the fairing frame, dash panel, and various brackets and baubles. Really happy with the powder-coat gloss-black bar-end weights. They were peeling a bit and now they look better than new. Test fit the Speedhuts for entertainment value. And question time... the Ohlins damper bracket is rubbing on the plastic air dam. I don't recall that being the case on my previous LeMans. Do they all do that? I checked the parts diagrams and can't find anything I did wrong. It doesn't seem to affect the operation, since the bracket only moves a little in relation to the plastic part. But if I missed something, I'd like to correct it. And another question... this one is just curiosity, not a problem to solve. Earlier in this thread I asked about removing the center of the rear wheel. I assumed it would come out since there is a huge spring clip that appears to be holding it in place. I had to spend some time with the Dremel removing powder so the spring clip would seat properly. But I found myself wondering why that spring clip is there at all. Can somebody explain the rationale behind this spring clip?

Makes mySport look like a tired, but willing, truck-stop tramp . . . . Welldone, there, @Scud!

PJPR01, you sir have summed it up perfectly!

Can it go equally well? 😁

Spanish girl.....

It appears to be from the film, “Il Profeta” (the prophet?), as shown in this page with the poster...... https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mr-kinky-italian-2p-68-art-sexy-ann-1839138386 if you search for the title or posters for the title all sorts of stuff shows up, some with Ann Margaret and some with other nice young ladies, but all with the goofy dude with his goat and rags. Perhaps there was a series of films or shows with this character, an ascetic type, being confronted with sexy young ladies. Like mixing Benny Hill and John the Baptist. I want that poster! Btw, Ms. Margaret is a real-life motorcyclist.

not enough caffeine in me yet, but i'm thinking 1000 Lire back then would have been closer to $1.50 (600-700 Lire per dollar in 70's?), and gas was likely down around .30 cents/gal (?), so she probably got a decent top-up for the top-off....

Mille lire!

Not to answer for Our Chief Whip, but until the sun circles back to Varsseveld . . . Looks like the girl left when the Centauro engine showed up!