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Good question. Since I own both, Mighty Scura and a GRiSO 8V, I’d say from personal experience they are similar but different. I’ve been very satisfied with the GRiSO for all the regular Moto Guzzi reasons. I like the look of the spoke wheels. It seems that the spokes have bedded in and will maintain tire pressure from month to month with minimal service requirements. The motive unit feels better with the more mileage I put on it. Handles nice, to me. I’ve installed a Nitron rear shock that seems to match the forks better therefore smoothing out the ride. The GRiSO is a work in progress for sure. All good, I’m happy there. Mighty Scura is still kinda new to me as I’ve only about 500ish miles on it. For sure it’s a Guzzi. For sure I like it. It goes, turns and stops like it should. The back end does seem to want to come around braking into corners, it could just be me. Dunno. Other than that it’s go man go. No issues with the motive unit. Very punchy, shifts smooth and crisp. I’m usually a big fan of newer is better. In this case Old Tech is still getting it done.

Johann Zarco, you mean the Johann Zarco that caused the biggest crash in MotoGP history at the Red Bull Ring a few years ago and thought he hadn't done anything wrong? That Johann Zarco, lol. I have a ton of respect for these guys that go out and lay it all on the line but It's extremely rare for me to take any view of a racing incident they have too seriously, esp if they have been involved. "Clearly Naka was never going to make that corner because if he was it means he's out braked me and I'm the best on the brakes in motoGP". That folks is how 99% of circuit riders brains work, lol. Phil

I agree... However, i just ran out to the garage, grabbed the torque wrench and have concluded that I did torque those bolts to 39nm back in February. Going to ride now!

V11 Workshop Manual for nuts ans screws 8M x 1.25 = 20-30 Nm Seems more like it . . .

Yeah, I've got the factory manual sect. B, p. 12 and familiar with step torquing but really thought I had a spec for those particular bolts. MG goes through the effort of putting an fancy diagram in sect O, p.8 & 9 but no bolt torques. The 1100i Sport manual indicates torque to 39nm for the (8mm, GU98832430) bolt which is the same bolt used on the V11 Lemans. I think 39nm is kind of high but what do I know.

I have never stopped racing before the end of the race, thinking it was over. But I have crashed on a warmup lap, once. I was surprised by someone else and had to avoid them, running off the track at speed. I have a friend who crashed on the cooldown lap, but in his defense he didn't see the checkered flag (he was lapped right before the line and never got the white flag). He thought he was still racing and was trying to catch the guy in front of him. I get that mistakes happen, but at that level that mistake shouldn't happen. These guys are pro's, and pro's should not make rookie mistakes. As to Taka, I am not sure what he did was so wrong. I get that people who were affected by what he did are pissed, but it seemed like an honest mistake to me. I don't see a pattern of mistakes, or a rider who rides with a disregard for the safety of others. There are riders who have a much more extensive history of knocking other riders down. To penalize Taka for that while turning a blind eye to others would seem wrong. You either take action at everyone who knocks other riders down or you only take action when it is blatant. And that was not blatant.

Indeed it is Doc. Between one thing and another just haven't been able to get away either at summers end or even bloody autumn! Now that the planets are aligning in winter we're being hit with a second polar blast of weather again this week with single digit daily high's and 0 to 3 overnight, snow down to 600 metres means the usual stomping grounds ( the high country ) is out! And it hasn't stopped raining for 2 weeks! Been a bit windy too...! Just to add to the litany of woe, I think I'm coming down with a cold ( not Covid thankfully - so far anyways!). But bugger it we've hatched a plan! Stay away from the snow and Ice of the high ground by skirting round them and up to the border ( Victoria /NSW ) on Saturday where we have a room in the Tallangatta pub booked Sat and Sunday.Then on Sunday ride the Murray river valley loop/circuit with maybe a wee diversion or two and dinner and drinks with the locals again Sunday night, then head for home Monday.I've ridden the southern part several times but only recently driven the northern part which actually follows the river ( which is the actual border ) and thought holy shit this would be a ripper on a bike.In fact a couple of well known bike magazines have used these roads to test bikes for many years so should be good....If all goes well. Now just gotta hope this cold doesn't get any worse! ( or the bloody weather too for that matter) Cheers Guzzler Ps camera is ready to go and hope to take a couple of shots

Zarco saw him zip past, and was a witness of the crash. Fabio and Aleix were already ahead. Zarco said there was absolutely no way he would have made the turn. He was too fast. Jorge Martin felt the same. If you remember, this track has seen a lot of incidents on departure. The one I remember is Sete Gibernau' strike...

Rally: Fri 21st - Mon 24th Oct 2022 Fingers crossed and hopeful for you all!

Racing incident or first corner bunching as Speedway often consider it and no rider excluded. I thought Peccos response was interesting considering he took out Jorge Martin in a bone headed up the inside and lose it on the brakes 2 rider incident at Qatar earlier in the year. Riders have very short memories. I thought Nakagami just made a small mistake on the brakes into the first corner not a stupid move. The other thing of note was naka got a really really good launch and drive off the start and when he went down wasn't from the areal shot stull trying desperately to get it stopped. He had got 98% of his braking done fine and just lost the front trail braking the last %2, certainly not a reckless out of control lunge. There's a massive amount going on into the first turn on the opening lap, cold tires, no .aero, cold brakes, massive compressing of the field and riders trying to improve positions. You have to expect the odd mistake here sometimes. Bagnia said in the interview " you can't overtake 12 riders into the first corner" Have a look at the replay and check out Mir firing it up the inside into turn 1 after the start. Started in 19th position and came out of turn 1 in 5th, so made 14 places into the first corner. Riders, some aren't paid because they're thinkers thats for sure. Alex Rins was winging like a 3 year old about an incident with Naka in the previous race and I watched it a dozen times and Naka did zero wrong. He ran his bike out onto the paint and used all the track and held his trajectory and Rins tried to go up the inside on the exit and lost it. Riders under pressure looking for excuses why they crashed. Ciao

Interesting observations from race direction, so if he didn't break too late, then he's just a bad rider and the braking was not a contributing factor...so wouldn't that point to him still being responsible for causing the accident...if not, then what would they consider to be the reason...certainly there was no oil on the track to point to. At this point, I think the other riders are leery of Taka given his track record (no pun intended),...so he'll become somewhat ostracized until his riding improves and he stops causing "racing incidents". Found this after I posted above: https://us.motorsport.com/motogp/news/nakagami-escapes-catalan-gp-turn-1-crash-without-serious-injury/10317625/ Seems to be a universal view that Taka should have been penalized...even he admitted it was his fault.

That torque spec is likely in the manual based on the fastener's shaft diameter and thread pitch. Remember, with pinch bolts to work in steps and know that the last fastener to fully torque will loosen the other. at the end of the session, work bath and forth between them until no further rotation occurs to achieve the specification.

I've done it. (only once when I was so far ahead I wasn't challenged) I've also crashed on the warm-up lap. Never crashed on cool down, though.

Sadly, the oak floor is just an illusion. What you see is vinyl plank flooring……over concrete! It’s actually pretty nice and durable. We all know that the possession of a spine frame is the best indicator of being a true gentleman! My wife would never let me park on a real oak floor………

@FuelCooler I see that you park you V11 on oak floor, while the rest of us use concrete. You are a true gentleman then....

Figured I'd toss this out there, was burrowing through 'Access Norton' ancient posts.