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That's really sad news... Griso owner Biesel contacted me if it was possible to integrate the griso ghetto forum in v11lemans.com. I told him it would be a hell of a job and possibly undoable. I offered him to make a subforum with all the trimmings for Griso-Ghetto members. But migrating all the content would be too much of a task, if possible.

I used to work as a front end user, on a variety of data bases, some with relational capabilities that were amazing, simple, functional platforms. I've also watched as conversion/data transfer projects on major records entry systems, ballooned from ten$ of million$ to hundred$ of million$, and in the end they never did function properly. I know there are some amazingly brilliant, computer savvy guzzisti, but website forums, I'm guessing are an extremely specialized niche of expertise; it's not just the set up, it's also the baby sitting and the maintenance. I know Beetle has a financial interest in Griso fanatics having a home base, but I don't know if he would have the expertise, time or inclination; hopefully someone does.

For sure early 70s, but usually 2strokes. Lots of fun and falling of not to bad. A v11 on the ice would be a no no. Back in to the brewery. Cheers Tom.

Day 4!! Left Grand Junction at 7 and made it to Ely, Nevada shortly after 4 and just under 450 miles Utah is amazing and I wish I had more time to explore! The Goose is running awesome and she runs 80 mph all day. Last leg of the trip is tomorrow, hwy 6 to 395 then 108 Sonora pass to home. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bu3ew686wd6irwr/pxl_20220917_143041692.portrait.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/87hcussfpzl9hav/pxl_20220917_164051365.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqr20kyqhnsp7w1/pxl_20220917_211439758.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/bblwc65ahnm0rjd/pxl_20220918_012901030.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/rui7lz9kjhnouwf/pxl_20220918_012951947.portrait.jpg?dl=0

2 wild quesses about the ice racing V11,, age of the rider and oil temp, hmm. Cheers Tom.

I finally noticed the Air Hawk, wise move. I love those things. When you get home and have time to decompress and go into fine details; please share the model and type of tank bag you have. Including pros/cons fastening accessibility etc. I'm old school and love a paper map on a tank bag in front of me, but with the plastic gas tank it's the one change and improvement I haven't made to my V11. Kudos & props for doing the spring job on the road on the fly in 3 hrs. Even if it wasn't the problem, you are now just a little more intimate with the bike and it's off your "to do" list when you get home,lol. Loving the adventure and the updates. Safe travels home

Sounds like a proper adventure. Enjoy that ride through Utah today. For future reference (and for anyone else) when the spring breaks you cannot shift at all. Other types of shift misbehaving are most frequently remedied by cleaning and/or adjusting the external linkage (especially the long shift lever pivot bolt).

Thanks to Docc, this is my favorite picture of the Coppa ever.

19 yoa/ 19º ? 19 years of age, but temperature in Fahrenheit . . . (minus 7º Celsius) Makes the dense fog on the Cherohala Skyway seem absolutely sensible. Even without brakes.

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I for one..would like to see it...

Yeah I'll post about the bag when I get back

I've been reposting that (amazing) image for a long, long time. Someone you know, @Tomchri? YOU?

Day three! After a 500 mile day I'm a bit exhausted so ignore the bad grammar and whatever. Haha I left Oberlin, Ks at 7:00 am and pounded pavement on hwy 36 towards Colorado. Once I hit Colorado it was open interstate on hwy 70. One stop on my list was Erico Motorsports in Denver they are a Moto Guzzi and Ducati dealer so I figured I'd swing by and check them out. Once I got off the highway and to my first stoplight I had troubles... All I could do is shift from 1st to 2nd so of course I'm thinking shift spring and first thing I think of is I have a spare from Scud! So boom I take it apart and replace the spring (the old one was bent funky but wasn't broken) get the new one in and it still shifts bad, found out I needed to adjust the freeplay? Or that bolt near the starter... Anyways three hours later I was on the road, had a beautiful ride on 70 thru the Colorado mountains and ended up getting a room in Grand Junction. Next stop tomorrow is the Utah/ Nevada border. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fearoeikxhe85k/pxl_20220916_142357277.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctvih5oh1zhgwa3/pxl_20220916_184932309.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qckv2gxmatfmxw6/pxl_20220916_214251682.portrait.jpg?dl=0

Getting close to steep, twisty, high elevation stuff. That's my favorite.

No all Daytonas were 4v/v HiCam engines, the difference between the cooking Daytona and the RS were Dark Grey Engine Paint WP Suspension front and rear (the early bikes has pretty awful Marzocchi front forks and a Koni rear shock) Stage C engine tune (Wiseco pistons, Carrillo Rods, hotter cam, Hi Flow air filter, different exhaust and map) That looks like an early one (it's a 93 and that's about the year they started in production) judging by the forks, pork chops and engine colour, although it has the pod filters and bellmouth as fitted to the Dr John and what looks like a Termigioni full system, I can't be sure, the crossover isn't standard and the end cans are Termis (or Termi stickers). The white paint job, or it could be a wrap, isn't standard either (but I think really suits it) and the wheels are black, the originals were white, which looked great until you rode it and had to clean them after every ride. Personally I think it's a really nice example that's been tastefully modded. All that's just off the top of my head there's probably more. Even a "cooking" Daytona is a magic thing, the 4v/v engine is a beast, it encourages you to rev it and it sounds glorious. 15k sounds a little rich, but they really are great bikes and I think will rise in value, after the round heads I think it's the best looking engine Guzzi made.

Day two! I only got 436 miles in today and ended up getting a hotel room in Oberlin, Kansas. Hwy 36 was awesome till I hit Kansas because they have this 300 mile yard sale down the highway. Haha The 35 mph crosswind was insane, and I ended up soaked in a few storms. I met a really nice guy in Agra, Kansas that let me hangout in his garage as one of the storms passed. The bike is running great and the Michelin Pilots are awesome in the rain https://www.dropbox.com/s/o2cxss402x47zso/pxl_20220915_220100569.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0razrpp4yxfw72/pxl_20220916_004113786.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjbqiqir74ch0dm/pxl_20220915_202947182.jpg?dl=0

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This is precisely why the automotive industry moved to "steady state" coolant temperature gauges (if any coolant temp gauge at all!). Ever notice that your car's coolant temp gauge points right at the middle, or slightly below, within a mile from start-up? And never varies, even in brutally hot ambient temps stuck in traffic? This is because owners would present their vehicle for service because "the needle is all over the place!" Now the "needle" stays "steady state" over a very broad range of (normal) operating temperatures. Actual coolant temperature (and perhaps oil pressure?) is like sausage. The less we know about the details, the better we sleep at night . . .

For general information to anyone reading this thread in the future this methodology is flawed and it's best to stick with the historically tried and tested oil pressure observations for troubleshooting. This LOP light on after the kill switch timing thing has way too many variables to be a troubleshooting tool. If the engine runs fine and has no unusual noises and the LOP stays off at idle in hot weather in traffic and the used oil has no concerning contamination then all is fine with the oil system. What do you do on a weekend trip or touring trip when you use this observation technique? Stop for fuel and for one of a dozen different reasons the LOP light illuminates without or with a reduced delay compared to usual observations? Pull up and start troubleshooting and have the engine apart? What would be an acceptable amount of delay? 1 second? 3 seconds? Sometimes people can go looking for issues and worries. Fitting an OPG every 30 or 40,000klms for an oil system evaluation would be reasonable but only for the oil pressure obsessed. It's the same as permanently fitted LOP gauges, a waste of time and added failure points and complexity. All you get is additional things to worry about and questions to observations you don't have the knowledge to understand. There's a good reason motorcycles in particular don't come standard with LOP gauges and only a light. It's just too cruel for the OCD riders out there. Even modern cars with LOP gauges dont use actual direct reading gauges anymore they use an indication derived and calculated from the ecu for the display and rely on a LOP switch and light for indication and warnings. If they used direct reading gauges that indicated the actual oil pressure the dealerships would be overflowing with owners with oil pressure issues. It's not just about the engineering but human psychology as well. Phil

Thank you, Pete. As always, I appreciate your concrete and specific information and help. Thanks for the directive to the Griso link. I guess Griso riders got their own version of this place….good for them! kind of wish I was a Griso rider

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