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Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in anything. I'm not going to link or even capitalize proper nouns. If you're interested you will figure it out. I searched for "elk" and "elk grove" and found nothing. So here goes. I found elk grove power parts in January. They are a piaggiao dealer and had good prices on Guzzi parts. I ordered a bunch of stuff and waited. And waited. They say up front it happens on piaggio time. But if piaggio shows it as a good part number it will show up. And waited. I figured I'd get my money back if nothing else. Behold. Stuff finally showed up. New seat for under one fifty. New Ballabio brake and clutch hoses under a c-note each. New production lights and turn signals cheaper than you can buy used on ebay. There is still stuff back ordered but I figure they are the real deal. The first name of the special order parts man is bishop. He's been good to me and I will inform him of this post so he can check it out. That's all I got. God bless, go in peace cdr

Who is this man and why is his hair so fabulous. Easy one for the Guzzisti. Good for the kids to learn. First in the continental US who posts the answer correctly gets the prize. I will put in priority mail envelope. Picture of "prize" in next post

So the 3 wire bundle negative terminal i was looking at, one goes to ECU relay then diagnostic plug then the other two go direct to the ECU so basically without this negative on the ECU its turned off and i get 12V at the injector plug, things didn't really seem to add up but I read somewhere when looking for injector info that some systems only have +12V at the injector when cranking or running but looking at the Guzzi diagram it would appear that the coils, fuel pump and injectors should all have 12V when the relay closes. So i reconnected the ECU negative, cranked it over and i'm getting 10.2V at the Injector when cranking so i led myself astray chasing the low voltage fault. Next i looked at the injection relay and if moved around pulled out a bit i get 11.2V at the injector when cranking so almost there , i've got a spare relay base somewhere so i'll try fitting that next time.

Yeah...uh Back in the days of flat track and no money (I mean, reheating day old pizza on a licence plate atop the 55gallon drum garage furnace money) we used split-shot sinkers pinched on before the ferrule. Zinc is better than lead. The older smarter guys found copper tubing the right size, split it, pinched it over the cable before the ferrule to the same OD and filled it with solder. For the well-funded and connected, they used to make housing extensions in a few increments of length.

Was that because he pronounced it Puh Kahn instead of Pee Can? 😀😀 Some people mix a little pecan with mesquite…also quite tasty. BBQ is so particular…have to agree on leaving the sauce off or just using a tiny bit for a dip or two. Proper brisket, bark done right is an all day job…I appreciate the time people spend cooking it, it’s much easier just to eat it! There was no BBQ at our Texas Guzzi rally this past weekend, but we had good pasta and meat sauce! Headed to Black’s BBQ in Lockhart Texas next weekend to bag another 10 stops on the Tour of Texas…two years ago we had 10 Guzzi riders show up in Lockhart on a whim just for the BBQ!

another great wesbite for me to read http://motosimpatico.com/2011/02/omobono-tenni-our-patron-saint/

Wypipo simply will not devote the necessary time to do BBQ correctly. The best I ever had always comes from old black men with a smoky trailer in a parking lot way off the beaten track. Homestead Florida after Hurricane Andrew, and West Point, Mississippi 2007 were the high points. While on the subject of rural cooking, I'll mention the Latino ground-cooked whole pig feasts...

Open circuit voltage should always be system voltage. So if you measure the ground for the injectors (and whatever else) it should show battery voltage when disconnected but nearly zero when attached properly. That is, testing from ground wire to ground. Whatever voltage you see between the ground wire and ground is resistance, and to be eradicated as a connection fault.

The three negative ring terminals on the battery are: 1) the largest/ main ground to the back of the gearbox (be absolutely certain this connection to the gearbox is cleaned bare and sealed!), 2) the start/charge/lights harness, and 3) the (completely separate) Fuel/Ignition harness through fuses 1 & 2 --> Relays 4 & 5.

Just to recap on my original post with more detail , before i attempted to start the bike I fitted a NEW ODYSSEY PC545 Battery , NEW PIERBURG - 7.21287.53.0 fuel pump , NEW set of Bosch relays , checked the BCM air filter that didn't have a spec of dust on it , emptied the tank and filled with new fuel , checked the plugs were sparking , checked that there was fuel pressure at the injectors which there was then i attempted to start the bike, cranks over perfect but won't start as there is no fuel getting injected. MartyNZ - Been there myself with the old 6V bikes forever cleaning the terminals but the V11 although not the best connectors are fairly tight and well sealed but not to say i haven't had the odd wiring issue in the past as with all Italian bikes, also the bike has always been kept in underground parking so not a hint of humidity or oxidation to be found on it , what i've disconnected so far has all been really clean connections . As there are quite a few leads connected to the battery i thought i'd start at the source to check for faults so i removed the 3 negative leads and reconnected one at a time and found with one of the leads disconnected i had a constant 12V at the injectors with ignition on, when i connect the third wire it drops again to 4.5V. The wire in question is a bundle of 3 one of which goes to the ECU relay then the other two not sure as yet (maybe ECU also) but need to do more tests to verify.

It is helpful to distinguish, when a V11 "won't start", whether it *clicks/whirs, cranks, or that there is > nothing < at all. Both @LaGrasta and @milo's V11 crank, but don't fire (if I understand correctly). A V11 with a faulty Run Switch or bad Clutch Switch/bullet connectors doesn't do anything on start attempt? Also, just because the battery has been removed for storage = nothing electrical can go wrong? I would venture that connections can continue to corrode and degrade while rodents can change your wiring without asking. Rude little shits.

When is McRib coming back?

Or take the cable lugs (connectors) out from the r base and squese them for a tight fit. Caig Deoxit and white vaseline is medisin. It's a good idea to remove the ground coming from the harness, going to the outside of the ECU. A separate ground is adviseable. Better relays when time comes to. Your close, and learning to know your bike. Cheers Tom.

Hey Docc, @docc do you think we could pin this thread.. I think it's a good resource for people in the market instead of posting external ads piecemeal in the classified section.

Going farther off the subject , I talked to a Texan about the wood he preferred to BBQ with and he stunned me when he said "pecan" . Now , when my job plays out , we are going to have to get together and "pig out" .

Tommaso Omobono Tenni, il Diavolo Nero, “The Black Devil”

Hey PA, Tks for the ideas, but I already have some plastic washers on hand and have to make a trip to the fastening store anyways so I'll be picking up something to use as shims at both ends. To anyone that happens to be reading this in the future; pay very close attention to a good, tight secure fit on installation that moves freely. While I was dicking around with it, the whole throttle stuck open about 1/2 way for a short time. I "think" it was the big white plastic idle nut? adjustment nut at the end of the throttle threaded linkage that got stuck. I can understand now why the company lawyers got involved and insisted on a dual throttle cable system, push/pull,,, open/close on the later models. fwiw tks very much

Another possibility, if you're up for the risk, is to move the end ferrule up the cable some. That requires unsoldering and resoldering the ferrule, something that in my experience is not a sure success.

Hi, @ildar! Thanks, @ildar, for posting your images to the gallery! The LeMans looks fabulous!

Hi everyone! Here is myne fully rebuild V11 Le Mans (champange) and repainted to auratium green. [docc restored image Feb 14, 2023]

I am back up and running. Ready to hand it off to my son. Thank you all for your help.

5 GT 170/60ZR17

I'm no expert, but that kind of voltage drop smacks of "dead short." Could there be something awry with the four hidden spade connectors beneath fuses one and two (injection/ ECU)?

Sauce . For those that have posted , #1 sauce is just like women , what tears me up , would turn your nose up . e.g. Bette Midler over Linda Carter . #2 do not add sauce . You eat it like it is served . #3 I have eaten the BEST BBQ in the back yard w/people of color . These folks are on a mission ! All day to make it , no problem .

My Rossi wouldn’t start when I first got it and gave it a wash. Ended up being the Stop/run switch wouldn’t make the start circuit up in the “run” position. I ended up buying a gently used switch from Curtis Harper. Installed & no more issues since.

I am about to post about the latest "Mutton Run" in a separate thread. But to muddle this a bit more on the whole BBQ question, I'll add these comments: * I grew up in Daviess County (Owensboro). For years, I felt similarly about Old Hickory, i.e., it's where the locals ate. We all did. That said, (most) (Catholic) church picnics were better still. Then, last May, our mutton-eating (and beer & bourbon-drinking) moto-bubbas went to OH as usual. I was very disappointed. Moonlite, then and in this latest trip, even with all of its kitschy and off-putting trappings, was much better, especially in the mutton category. * As for BBQ generally and anywhere on the planet, the critical first question is whether the meat has been parboiled before grilling. If the answer is yes, it's amateur fare. The second point is that if you need to slather meat with sauce, you are a sissy and the BBQ unworthy of tasting. * See the links: https://bbqfest.com & https://festivalnet.com/7196/Owensboro-Kentucky/Food-Festivals/International-Bar-B-Q-Festival. Note location. There is a reason for that. I knew you'd want to know all of this. Bill

Nice old Camaro RS in the parking lot.