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Oh yeah you got that right. I managed to purchase a set with the ECU, footpeg hangers, adaptor plates and...........a few dents. Puled them apart (one had no packing left at all) and used a combination of soft hammers on a 75mm PVC pipe to remove the dents. Followed a thread on this forum and they came up pretty good.

My thanks to everyone who posted. I've replaced the spring and put the pin back in with red Loctite. Took the bike out on a couple of test rides last week and I'm ready to go to the national rally in OR this week. I'll look at adding some of the suggested improvements this coming winter. Richard

You can get a pick and bend the tang inside the connector to tighten it up and use Deoxit , connector grease or conductivity enhancer to seal the deal.

As much as we chase these starter problems I seem to have traced mine down more to the slip on connector to the solenoid. Every time I have issues moving it or cleaning it clears up the problem. I'm starting to think a small bolt through there to improve the connection might be an answer.

Yes, yes I do. It's more a time and place thing than a too many bikes thing. I don't ride at all in S. Florida anymore unless it's a special occasion or necessity.

Only 50 starts in two years? you have too many bikes....

Well , get a pair of hemostat clamps and pull the starter engagement wire off the stater and put your test light into the wire and have someone to "crank" the bike . If the light lights up , your problem IS the starter , If there is no light , you have a circuit problem .

MGcycle, has a replacement starter listed as: Alternate starter GU30730710 for $120.00 in stock. It says: Alternate starter suitable for all big twins. Similar to the Valeo starter; these starters are lighter, crank faster while drawing less current. This starter is a direct replacement for OEM GU30730710, GU30730711. I checked Euro MotoElectrics: they have the Valeo and another brand "Enduralast" that looks exactly like the one MGcycle proposes, although the powerating of both is the same: 1.2 kw @270 A. What I like is that Euro MotoElectrics has the instructions to overhaul the Valeo starter; http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/ The first thing I am going to do, is to remove the starter, and check its Valeo P/N.

Got it running great! My old twinmax not working correctly so ordered a new one and did the tune up again. So thanks for most everyones input all is well.

I've mentioned previously the best thing to do is measure the viscosity of the old oil and the new oil and compare the two and make a decision based on how the fork damping worked for you with the old oil. If the forks worked fine with the old oil viscosity then buy/mix and match the new oil to the same Vx. If you think you need higher or lower than the original then use new viscosities as required. Phil

Well , Greenie is ready for the champagne bottle redux (again) ! List of accomplishments ; Practicing squats ! Straighten l.h.bar. Repair starter switch Replace starting motor / spray goo on flywheel teeth Replace spark plug end cap. It gave it's life to save the rest of the bike. Practicing squats. I don't want to do this type of parking lot crash again. And yes , as much as it hurt , I stood up to see how many witnessed my move !

Grrrrr....

I have the small portion that broke out of it. I'm going to try and see if I can repair it without it standing out too much.

Excellent. You’ve helped confirm my urge for the Loire! I lived for a year in France a long time ago, but spent the vast majority of the time in the Alps (Grenoble), some in Paris and Normandy, and never set foot near Champagne area or Bordeaux. Just got back last month from Champagne and Bordeaux (cliche, but was fun). I’ve ventured “across” the Loire Valley a number of times, spending a night at the Chambord Relais, and poked around there for a day which was enough to see I want to go back and hit places like you’ve suggested. And the Pyrenees…. Yes, that would be great, and maybe mix that in as part of a trip down into Rioja. But, getting back to Normandy, per your original post, is sort of an anchor item. Have a couple good friends who haven’t been, one of whom is a rider, who I’ve been talking about getting there in the next year or two. Linking the Loire valley was my thought, meandering down from Normandy (and starting in paris)

Mind you, at the rate we are going, we won't be able to ride anywhere the way floods seem to affect us. I am freshly back from Sedona AZ, while the temperatures were well over hundred, it was completely bearable when there isn't any humidity. Furthermore, Sedona to Flagstaff via 89A is a dream road for motorcyclists; then Flagstaff is about 25 degrees cooler because of the elevation. Too bad Sedona is packed like any other tourist destinations.

I bought the MG Cycle starter, and it's been sterling- for 2 years and 50 starts. <shrug> there was no visible difference from the Valeo it replaced, right down to the rivets used to prevent maintenance. They may come out the back door of the Chinese factory that Valeo owns.

I will tell you how to fix it . You call EuroMotoElectrics tomorrow and order a new starter . They sell two different quality starter motors. Buy the OEM Valeo motor and be done with it. You want to ride not push . Their # is 1-303-526-0901. IDK their hours of operation but you can Google their website, Mine ws around $220 w/shipping . I am keeping the old one just to dismantle and look at . Two sessions of ignition switch hanging on and staying engaged w/o me knowing it until it killed the battery made this starter a dull boy.

I was myself very surprised, because I used to rent bikes in Paris when I was still living there, in between jobs. It was a lot more expensive, and mileage was never unlimited. This is a wonderful way for renters to make it impossible to really budget your trip. I have an American friend of Italian descent, and she makes her living taking US tourists to Italy in a turnkey deal. She asked me if I would be interested to do the same, but in France. I declined as I know I would not be able to cope with the amount of complaints she has to shoulder off. Not about her service, but everything around it. I do not know how acquainted you are with France, but if you have not already, I suggest you consider the Pyrenees. As for the castles on the Loire valley, this is top. If you have not heard about it, because it is one of them not very well known, I suggest the Château de Cheverny. It is not far from Chambord, and the main difference is that it kept all of its original furniture. As you know, during the French Revolution, all the castles were attacked and vandalized. So except a few, all the furniture you see is not original. Cheverny is still lived by descendants and was used by Hergé for the Château de Moulinsard in Tintin et Milou. Not so far from Paris, I recommend you visit the Château de Vaulx le Vicomte. This is a typical example of never show how rich you became to the guy that made you. Nicolas Fouquet was Louis XIV (14) Finance Superintendent, and he made a few jealous people along the way. One of them Colbert who turned the Louis against Fouquet.... If you go there, it is just incredible to picture parties in there... Another of my favorite is the Portalet Fort, to guard access from Spain; this one is not much known by anybody... https://www.tourisme64.com/activites/urdos/PCUAQU064FS000L6-le-fort-du-portalet/ (toggle the language to English).

Crankcase vent. The factory set up had a tendency to haze the air filter with the oil mist. Plus, this is more akin to the classic BritBike style venting of a hose routed back over the fender, albeit with the little filter added for dash.

Just in case you don't read the post, HERTZRIDE rents bike in Portugal, Spain, Italy, and so on. I put the location list underneath. So you may be able to enjoy riding there too.

Beautiful, @Bingbong! Thank you for your terrific reply and photo of your Coppa Italia in its natural habitat! @LaGrasta is in good hands. @JBastida stops in with us from near Madrid from time to time. Perhaps he will se this notification and chime in . . .

Many exited ways to Rome. Cheers Tom. Sent fra min SM-S906B via Tapatalk

Hey Lagrasta! well…. I have just got back into my house from a 4 day trip south to north of Portugal. There is a publicised route that runs from Faro in the south to Chaves (pronounced shoves). Don’t tell anyone but the roads here beat the Alps by a mile. The Alps has higher mountains, but a ton more tourists and speed cameras. There is a lot of info on the N2 route on Google and a thread on Advrider. https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/n2-portugal.1580803/ But this is just a very small part of what Portugal can offer. I came back via Serra da Estrella. This was even better. Just stunning. And I have ridden the alps, dolomites picos and Pyrenees etc. But that’s all for a longer tour. If you are hotspotting.. Lisbon and Oporto have plenty rental opportunities and great riding near by. Around Lisbon ride out of Lisbon on the Marginal to Cascais stay on the N247 north up the coast to Guincho then Malveira da Serra. After this you can continue North on 247 and take a quick stop at Cabo da Rocca. (The most western point in EU) If you have time Azenhas do Mar is. Great place for food. Sinatra is a must see place and can be visited on the way back. It is very busy there on a weekend. South of Lisbon, go across the old bridge (Ponte April 25th) and route yourself to the coastal road of Arribida. This is used a lot for new bike launches. N379-1. Halfway along there is a small road that goes down to the beaches portinho da Arrabida. Fantastic place for lunch. Continue to Setúbal and take the ferry to Troia. It’s another world over there but sandy and flat for a while. I like it there because it’s more original and the food is great and cheap. If you want to go further then the Alentejo is wonderful for slow touring. (Can be fast also if you want…) Evora is a very nice place to visit and happens to have the best Guzzi dealer in Portugal. It’s Piaggio and not a big place but the people are great. They organise the yearly Guzzi owners day. Had a fantastic time with them. You can ride there for lunch and be back in lisbon for dinner. All on national roads. There is a dealer in Lisbon if you just want to window shop etc. Service with them was not to my liking and I am not the only one with that view. Porto this is easier.. everywhere is great! 😂 Follow the Douro river out of town in land. Jump on the N222 (voted most picturesque road in Europe). There are loads of vineyards to visit for wine and port. Or just stop where ever something takes your fancy. Braga and Guimares are great cities to visit. hope that gets you started. If there is anything more specific or you want to do or if you need some help finding bike rental then I will be glad to assist. you will have a great time, that is guaranteed.

Hey buddy I have a v11 cafe sport Had the exact same issue you describe. Did the full tune... still had an issue... same as you, just started happening. I had an exhaust leak at the crossover pipe just in front of the timing cover. Replaced my headers with non-crossover type, problem GONE. Not saying it is the crossover, but a small exhaust leak reaked havoc with my bike.

This would show something, surely. It's not impossible that there's a wiring fault in the harness somewhere, let's say for instance the sensor return-to-ecu wire is grounded; since the ecu is looking for input and output to compare, if the return is grounded it sees output with zero return input, which might be interpreted as below zero temps or something. This is a search and destroy diagnosis, and software visibility would surely save a lot of fingerwork.

Thinking more about @thumper's stumble, it seems GuzziDiag is a great way to watch sensor values as the bike warms up. It would be telling if one of the sensor outputs suddenly goes open at operating temperature . . .

Yes, that seems very strange. Infancy failure is anything which, after a very short period of time working, just fails, or immediately after being started. I have an easy example. I replaced my turn signal incandescent bulbs with led ones. Which implies replacing the flasher with one that works with LED lamps. I did, tested it, worked. A few days after, no more turn indicators. Just like that. I got it replaced with the same one under warranty. Same brand, same specs. Still works today. I learned about infancy failure when working for ExxonMobil in an oilfield with non-eruptive oil wells. Those wells need to be pumped to produce oil. While everyone has seen a horse head pump once in his/her lifetime, there are other pumping systems. Those pumps are lowered into the well, and pump the effluent directly from down hole. The output is a lot higher than what a horse head pump can manage, it is continuous pumping. These pumps have a limited life span, affected by many factors. Also, during the life of the well, they may need to be replaced because some conditions have changed. To install a down hole pump, you need a work over rig. It is expensive to extract the existing completion, and to run the next one. As soon as the pump has been installed, the wellhead connected, the pump is started and there is some test carried for a few hours. After that, the rig is moved to the next well. Not long after the rig has moved, something within the pump fails. The pump was tested prior to being lowered in the hole, but this kind of failures, named "infancy failures" are unpredictable. They are factored in when a field has to be installed, at planning time. Some money is put aside for this kind of repeat intervention. But even if it is built up in the budget, you always get a good rimming by the representative of the oil company for having early equipment failures on "HIS" watch!!! Sometimes, they refuse to pay for the equipment you installed!

Interesting, I have had seemingly minor intake, and also exhaust, leaks wreak havoc on mySport's running quality . . .

This fuel injection system on this bike is hokey-pokey compared to all other f.i. bikes. It uses a min. of inputs and a hilarious output. The pcm is mapped (apparently for Lake Como only) for nowhere on the North American continent. Now , for good advice , post everything going wrong with the bike and how long it has been going on . Everything you have done , all parts you have installed and has anything helped ? Please read my story about plug wire caps and don't be afraid to install new spark plugs . NGK is my plug of choice on this bike . Learn how to synch throttle bodies and adjust TPS sensor. If all of this is done perfectly get w/someone about "remapping" your pcm. IF you have an aftermarket module like a PowerCommander piggybacked on this bile , remove it and see what happens . Personally I hate these things. If all this checks out , it's time to remove the injectors and have them professionally cleaned and flow rated to match each other. This is a job because everything is Loctited together. I suppose someone thought of this as an assembly . Keep us posted . We want you to be happy with your bike.

Your tune-up included valve adjustment, plugs, TPS baseline, CO Fuel Trim, and throttle body balance? edit: and that the issue was there before the tune-up and remained unchanged?

More to the point, @Randy, and his Coppa Italia, in their natural habitat:

Docc , you had asked if I had any more info on my Silvery… Here is the sales literature for my 2001 “V11 SportCF Special Edition”. It does say “Available in North America only”. I couldn’t find any references to it online, I just had the printed page from 2003 in a file at home.

Docc, I remember getting a little bit of sales literature when I purchased the bike new. To my knowledge it was a late 2000 built red frame listed as a 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport CF, I assume for Carbon fiber. I bought the bike in 2002 after the Lemans and blacked out motor advancements had hit the showroom floor, so it was kind of languishing on the dealer floor next to its peers.

I don’t know all the details but I saw it on literature called either cafe carbon or carbon cafe. Numbers ? By whom ? And the fender and side covers I brought to a paint shop and had them clear coated, gloss. I like it better and will take the fly screen next and have it done. That’s why in the picture they appear black. They don’t look black in person.

Any records of what this model was actually designated? V11 Sport CF? V11 Sport Carbon? Carbon Sport? Seems there were a couple "promotional editions" of the V11 sport in 2001. (USA only?) The silver V11 Sport "CF" with 2001 Rosso Mandello carbon fiber (one piece) front fender and cf flyscreen (unlike the accessory, color matched StucchiLuigi-made fiberglass bikini fairing that was available for the early Sports). And the V11 Sport "TT" that was black over silver on a Red Frame (Only fifteen made? But by whom? The US distributor?)

I’ve said it before, but of the original 3 stock colors for the red framed V11s, I never seem to see black bikes, it’s green or silver here

Love the early silver V11’s. Yours has black side panels & fender, please remind me was this a special edition?

Perhaps it is the color "the V11 was drawn from" by Luciano Marabese .

I better get a roll, then. Pretty sure My Sport (and her starter) already heard y'all crowing about this . . . . won't be far down the VooDoo chain now . . .