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The newer CARC Guzzi's are funny. The ECU monitors the voltage it sees from the battery. If the voltage it sees at the battery is too low it will not allow a start attempt or it will abort a start attempt if the voltage drops too low when a start attempt is in process. When you push the starter button on a newer CARC Guzzi you are requesting a start. The button does not directly send power to the starter relay and then to the starter. It logs a request with the ECU, which then either engages the starter or not. That is also why on the newer bikes you only have to push the button for a moment but the starter will run until the motor starts or until the timer expires. On newer CARC Guzzi's holding the starter button down should override the ECU and its abort process. But on the earlier CARC Guzzi's there was no override option I am aware of. That can make starting with a Lithium battery problematic when it is cold out. If the battery doesn't provide enough voltage it will abort the start. And if it aborts the start attempt it can be hard to get the battery warmed up to where it has enough voltage to start the bike.

All of our solenoids have a direct connection to the battery for the starter motor input. What came as a surprise is the signal connection coming from the relay. According to the currently available literature, that wire is undersized, and can only supply the hold-in magnet, but not the close-in one. But we have two different situations: Case of the V11: the "signal" wire is not routed through a relay. It comes directly from the ignition rotary; thus the advice from @Kiwi_Roy to clean it and grease it with vaseline, or modify the circuit, which is the solution I adopted, by adding a relay. So the signal wire no longer directly goes to the solenoid, but to a relay, which in turns sends the power to the solenoid. The additional relay is directly connected to the battery (via a fuse), and when the signal from the starter button comes, then the Solenoid gets its power from a shorter route. Other case: the "signal" is correctly routed through to a relay, stock, but the user's consensus is, that the wire from the relay to power the solenoid is under gauged. In some situations, the close-in magnet does not get the necessary amps to pull the fork that engages the Bendix into the flywheel, so it never closes the circuit that powers the starter motor and switch to the hold-in magnet, since it does not complete the full travel. The proven solution has been, as stated above, to add a size 14 wire between the relay + connection to the Solenoid' signal input. That is my understanding of the issue. Am I correct?

I was fortunate, in the course of my work, to hear him from about 6 feet away. He was already over 70 at the time, and still amazing. The thing that really got me was the control of the voice. Pianissimo, and solid as a rock. Anyone can do loud, but doing really quiet under complete control is the sign of a master. That applies to singing, and every musical instrument I know.

Just conjecture on the Moto Guzzi process, but the early V11 suffer from relay failure in position one. Perhaps this led to change the electrical demand for starting through the ignition switch. The very first action under warranty by my dealer was supplying a larger Start Relay.

Very well. So not all the V11 are concerned with the relay less installation. One may wonder why Moto Guzzi went to making a less qualitative installation??? I did not add that my V11 also suffered from a starter motor failure, with the shield between the armature and the planetary arcing and giving the exact same symptoms as in startus interruptus. If I had not updated the starting circuit, I may have gone after the wrong symptom and not have resolved the issue.

Administrator, we need a Holy Mother of God emoji...

PM me your mailing address and for $50 US plus actual postage that can happen. I also have an unbreakable pawl spring if you want one.. another $10 if you want one thrown in the package. Supply is (ahem) *very* limited..

Revisiting Puccini, and Luciano's enormous tenor. Miss him.

Gearboxes don't really suffer the condensation issue like an engine. An engine produces a LOT of water vapour starting from cold and that's what contaminates the oil and needs to evaporate off. Short runs just kills engines as does short start stop stuff like shuffling cars around in driveways and workshops. Doesn't matter what oil you use either it just kills them. Gearboxes not so much, foaming is an issue with gearboxes esp if they are overfilled a bit. Phil

Hey my V11 fellows! Finally I got my beauty from Amsterdam! I rode it through Hamburg - Kodling - Thisted! Still on the way back to Stavanger! I just love it! Its just fine. Even though I have some bad luck with it. Anyway, I will post another topic for asking help on the issues I have I register it here before I register it in Norway! Here are some photos! I have some videos too! To be continued

can't think why, but I am reminded of this...

It's no good if you can't ride it. Jus' sayin'...

Yesterday, I was able to confirm the goods of the i3, Michelin Road 6, KNOX shirt, with a monumental trial by fire!!! I started from Grande Salines (E on the map) to my place of residence, (F on the map) about 230 miles (370km) 4 hours+ ride under torrential rain, throughout the ride. The i3 was switched into flashing front and back lights, the visor held its own in terms of not fogging. I think this particular travel is most likely in the worst environment possible. Safety would have dictated that I stopped, but I felt good riding in the deluge. Once you are completely drenched, even if unpleasant, it does not make any difference. I refrained from going full I-45, and it was a good decision. On smaller roads, you don't get as much projections from the larger vehicles, that makes visibility even more. I only rejoined the 45 at Huntsville. I refueled at Trinity, and this was the hardest part. Entering the Gas Station's market wet, the AC freezes you on the spot! I literally was dripping water from just standing... lol!!! I will comment on the other pieces of gear in their appropriate topics (KNOX shirt and Michelin Road 6).

This is the way everything is now. You are second guessed at every twist and turn, and those algorithms are never completely full proof. One blatant example is the Boeing MCAS.

Very pretty, but.... Why on earth would one put knobby tires on a bike like the dark grey one? It obviously isn't a chook chaser. And he forgot the mufflers, apparently.

Turning the steering to exact starting is an issue with the clutch switch connectors. They are a bit fussy to get to on the fully faired V11, but can be seen to . . . These are the "bullet connectors" from the clutch switch on the left side of the spine frame beneath the fuel tank:

Or a 27mm nut welded to a bolt. Good grip and close to the pan. Cheers Tom. Sent fra min SM-S906B via Tapatalk

Bearings size 20x47x14. Cheers Tom.

Finally got an update on the bike. It looks like the electrical issue is fixed. Just a few burned connectors and the affected wires. Perhaps the battery has knocked out cell. Gearbox is TBD.

Bristol spent the whole war getting this engine half way reliable and producing power and at the end of the day the advantage it offered was completely negated from about 1941 onwards due to the development of high octane fuels. Pre war when fuel was pretty rubbish it offered a full point of additional compression according the Harry Ricardo's experiments. A classic case of flogging a dead horse or continuing with a design that you should simply have shelved years earlier. Bristol bet the future of the company on the sleeve valve engine and failed. Rolls Royce and others but esp RR took a proven design and just kept refining it until it was powerful and reliable. A lesson there in that. Dogged development of a fundamentally sound design produces success. Very much like the evolution of the motorcycle front fork. Phil

You might need to try calling to the geriatric brain dead inhabitants at wildguzzi. You know the ones who's brains are dulled and befuddled by all that smoke they keep breathing in around the "camp fire" Phil

Do you hear a ‘Click’ from the relay which is in a block on the RH side under the seat. If you get a ‘Click’ but no start it’s probably Startus Interuptus. Well documented on the Ghetto.

Just like her airplane.

That. There have so many attempts to define "THAT." Somehow, "fun" just does not entirely translate the fullness of the experience. "Welcome home, dear! Did you experience that surreal , uplifting, transcendental, existential experience on your ride ? " "Why, yes, darling, the ride was fun . . ." "Did you cheat death with your awareness and skillset, mastering the physical realm with intensity and purpose ?" "Yes, yes. Quite fun, actually."

This came up today on the Cafe Racer Magazine Instagram feed. Thought it was perfect to post under "Origins of the V11 [emoji56] Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

https://www.motociclismo.it/guzzi-che-altro-moto-54327