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The fitting on the tank is an externally threaded 20mm diameter fine thread, the internal diameter of the fitting 10mm smooth bore. EDIT For Info I think the pitch is 1.0mm as best I can measure The sender slides into the tank through the smooth bore and a lip at the its base holds it captive on the base of the nut seen at the bottom. The top hex part of the nut is 20mm and screws onto the external threads of the tank fitting (a bit confusing but it's the best I can do to explain it) The fitting on the Steinse Dinse sender is 16mm so it's too large to install into the tank. Some sort of collar/adapter nut to extend and step the 16mm thread to a 20mm might work, but it would be "Heath Robinson" at best and probably look horrible. It would also lower the height of the sender in the tank, altering the volume of fuel left in the tank and reduce reserve capacity. I reckon it would be easier to purchase a thermistor and purchase parts to make a new thermistor, as Phil did in this thread, although that's not that easy either. https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/topic/30780-fuel-level-sensor/page/2/

Did you listen to old people when you were young ? I sure didn't , they were clueless dinosaurs !

Yup, and, providing the world doesn’t end, IC vehicles will end up being an ‘Enthusiast’ hobby, a bit like steam trains are. Oh, they will, at least for the foreseeable future, remain a lot more popular than steam trains simply because unlike steam locomotives IC vehicles were, and are, ubiquitous and everybody in the western ‘Developed’ world will have memories inextricably woven in to the fabric of their lives that will involve them. Be it memories of family holidays as a kid or that thrill of discovery when you took your first trip *Away* independently on your first motorbike or car? Almost everyone will have those and ‘We’ and the generations up to the present will wish to preserve those memories and the items associated with them. I don’t think IC will need to be legislated out of existence. I think it will just fade into the background. What will replace it? Who knows? Whatever it is will still have the potential to be just as exciting, if society wishes it to be so. As it is more and more people nowadays, and not just young people, seem to be more interested in consumerism and living out a ‘Fantasy’ life vicariously through the lives of others on a small, glowing, screen. Is that wrong? Or bad? It’s not really my place to say. I’m an old man at the end of my (Enormously lucky!) life. The world I am bequeathing to my children is pretty f*cked up! If I were young I wouldn’t listen to a godammed word people like me say!

^^^^^^^ That does not look like central Indiana @Chuck! Our next couple of weeks are frigid, and the cleared roads covered in corrosives, so first ride may be as late as March. Still, hope, the refuge of the doomed, is about all I have that warmer days and cleaner roads will arrive anytime sooner. Bill

Depended who they were. Some of the wisest people I knew when I was a teenager were retired tradesmen who encouraged my interest in things mechanical. Snooty, mealy mouthed busybodies always trying to get into other people’s lives and business, (And there were a lot of them around in the seventies!)? Not so much.

Well, off the top of my head…….. They used a very tall final drive. Enormously tall. Compensated for by lower internal ratios in the gearbox. The driveshaft and universal joint are a ‘One piece’ unit and they use the 20 tooth spline form used on the V11 and later bikes rather than the ‘Standard’ 10 spline system. It is critical to keep the ignition timing spot on as if the motor ‘Kicks Back’ while starting it has a tendency to round off the hexagonal key that drives the torque converter fluid pump. Drive is then lost as the fluid overheats. They are also very touchy about what type of ATF to use. Early ‘Verts had a lightweight, pressed steel, flywheel that tended to rip its centre out. Later ones have an enormous forged steel item that weighs about as much as a neutron star! As well as the standard ‘Vert, which closely resembled a T3/G5 with cow-horn bars and a weird tail light, the engine and transmission were also used in an automatic version of the California II. All their owners are strange, hump-backed midgets, usually with a withered arm, buck teeth and rickets. They tend not to bathe often and may or may not have communicable diseases so it’s best not to touch them. In fact try and keep them at arm’s length and stand upwind of them if possible. I am, obviously, the exception that proves the rule……….

It's been some time since I went to this show. Frankly, it's mostly cars, but today I needed a ride. I show up and there's something like 300 cycles parked in a row. Granted, mostly all Japanese, mine was the only Guzzi. I met an Englishman now living in SC that owns a Coppa and a Greenie. Maybe he's on here as well? Hope to see him there again, maybe some others on this board that are local.

Molly, have you read this? https://www.onthrottle.co.nz/post/nz-s-mandatory-motorcycle-abs-what-is-exempt-and-what-isn-t There are possible ways to avoid the NZ ABS requirements. 12 months ownership, or no ABS V11s were ever made.

Docc, you forgot one…

Personal transportation options, as I see it, "going forward" . . . 1) ICE - fix it yourself, better "know a guy" . . . 2) EV - plug in, pay up, throw it away -> repeat. 3) Public transport - not where I live, but maybe for the city people. 4) Stay home/ work from home/ stare at the screen. There is significant precedent for this option, now.

It is a true statement; that being said, the world has evolved a lot since we were young. My parents, grandparents, did not go to college. Back in these days, they had to work already to provide food. Especially after both wars. Education was a luxury then for many. A lot of them were already working at 16... We got better education than most of them did. What about technology growing up. I had a black and white TV, with only one channel, programs started at 8:00 pm during the week. Earlier during the weekends. Today, I don't feel obsolete; my parents probably did, but I do scratch my head wondering how did we get where we are today, with all the nonsense happening around us. I don't know what the young people are thinking, because they spend most of their time watching screens.

I think it's a silly blanket policy. They are passing up a lot of good work and alienating potential good customers. The worry of people not wanting to pay current prices is easily handled right up front by charging a diagnostic fee, or getting a deposit. If the customer has some skin in the game via a deposit, they are more likely to be serious about fixing the bike. A policy of charging a storage fee X number of days after the work is completed is also a good motivator to get vehicles picked up and paid. You soon find out the the trouble is the person, not the vehicle. A better policy would be "we don't work for assholes" rather than we don't work on old vehicles. During my career in the repair business (cars & trucks), we strived to keep customers for life. I can't imagine telling long term customers, many who we had for decades along with their entire families that their vehicle became too old for us. It's just poor business practice.

Yes John I spent a fair amount of time about a year ago or more on this and came to the conclusion that buying a new thermistor and making a new holder was the only viable option. I bought the fuel proof wire and heat shrink and was researching fuel proof potting compounds when I got caught up in other priorities and machined up a simple blanking plug to get the bike put back together and rideable. Phil

Ah, now that you mention it, I think I had read references to that on the German forum. Thanks for your insights, particularly those regarding the riders. I had had my suspicions.

Hi Philip Yes the lowered foot pegs are available they were quite expensive when available I'm thinking some where around $100.00 Canadian plus shipping and if you agree I can throw the three factory aluminum pegs in for $20.00 Canadian. Let me know. Ciao

No exaggeration, well over 500!

maybe I should make an amendment . Did you listen to your PARENTS ?

Nothing like a bit of Roper in the morning. No need for coffee now. The most disconcerting part is when, as here, I agree with him. A specialist at digression, I am compelled to add this. I am especially crabby just now because we cannot get delivery of a new washer and dryer because of snow. It is now laundromat time as our hamper is full, and once one's clothes reach a certain stage, deodorant has its limits! I used my rotator-cuff injury -- my "souvenir of Sardinia" earned on that Guzzi tour -- to get Kathi to shovel the paved entrance to our driveway yesterday. Polish wives are magnificent. I did reward her cheerfully done hard work with an Old Fashioned ... Anyway, while can get our (Mighty) Fit up and down the gravel drive, the 26-foot box truck would not, especially if an inexperienced driver. Best from snowbound (and smelly clothes) at the top of Virginia ... Bill

From a purely mechanical and electronic perspective the 15M ECU doesn’t have the potential to support the ABS functions required. The W5AM does and I have, as I’ve aged, seriously considered fitting a pump and sub-harness to the loom on the Griso so I could do it. It’s been done in Europe I know. Thing is it would be an enormous hassle and my ‘Touring’ bike already has ABS so, despite the fact I’d like to have it I’m essentially too lazy, and not risk averse enough, to be bothered with the Mighty Griso.

Reading this thread somehow reminds me of this song by Rush: My uncle has a country place That no one knows about He says it used to be a farm Before the Motor Law And on Sundays I elude the eyes And hop the Turbine Freight To far outside the Wire Where my white-haired uncle waits Jump to the ground As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline Run like the wind As excitement shivers up and down my spine Down in his barn My uncle preserved for me an old machine For fifty odd years To keep it as new has been his dearest dream I strip away the old debris That hides a shining car A brilliant red Barchetta From a better vanished time I fire up the willing engine Responding with a roar Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime Wind In my hair Shifting and drifting Mechanical music Adrenaline surge Well-weathered leather Hot metal and oil The scented country air Sunlight on chrome The blur of the landscape Every nerve aware Suddenly ahead of me Across the mountainside A gleaming alloy air car Shoots towards me, two lanes wide I spin around with shrieking tires To run the deadly race Go screaming through the valley As another joins the chase Drive like the wind Straining the limits of machine and man Laughing out loud with fear and hope I've got a desperate plan At the one-lane bridge I leave the giants stranded at the riverside Race back to the farm To dream with my uncle at the fireside

The member imported a (non-ABS) V11 from the USA to NZ.

Yes Jaap, we see mainly the Dutch roads (and whether), but the more southern European countries use motorcycles a lot more. In many cases big scooters (this is not a universal term) like the Piaggio's, Yamaha T-max, Suzuki Burgman and the likes, with CVT automatic gearbox. But still I do not estimate this very high. BTW: I commute on my Cali 2 when temperatures go up again.

I've known of the Converts, but would have to review their history. Honda has been offering a sort of CVT on a number of models for several years, IIRC. My first riding buddy, a Mr. Bruce Heath R.I.P., was very fond of the Honda-Matic bikes, both 750 and 450. He was most adept at giving all of his machines appropriate pet names and called his last 450 (that he rode up to the year he passed at 82) "Flo" (short for DynaFlow, a Buick/GM automatic transmission in service 1948-1963). He had a little brass plaque on the tank: I shifted gears for fifty years. At times, it seemed like fun. But anymore, it's become a chore. And me, a shiftless bum.

I am a member of a mechanic's forum and a few years ago a member was overhearing two managers of fast lube service joints talking and one was bragging about how his store was under the target of incidents per/1000 service jobs . Wow ! I wonder how the 101st Airborne feels about a 95% success rate on parachute packing ?

Hearkening back . . .

A few photos of my 2004 Ballabio after the major work