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EV batteries *are* recyclable.. there is money in it. I watched a video of a big recycling plant, and they get about all of it. Battery EVs aren't perfect, of course.. but they are a good stop gap until hydrogen (most likely) is perfected. At the very least, they cut fossil fuel usage, and we really need to do that..

I have one from a 2003. $400. plus ship. I rode the bike and it worked. I'm moving, so slow turn around.

We're in the fire biz (3 planes on the current fire), but I grew up in the woods with a cedar roof. Needed to replace it, and was just too cheap to get it done until some winter storm damage finally helped force the issue, and it's all metal now. i'm embarrassed to admit how long it took me to replace that roof. we're not in high risk area, but have had some big ones not too far away in the last decade. Those cedar shakes from the roof, i'd use them for kindling in the wood stove whenever we'd get removed shakes after doing some repair or trim work, and literally just a little paper and a match and that stuff lit off and burned so easy. crazy. Now I have to remove my favorite cedar tree next to the house, that would go up like a torch... And then there's the issue of US homes (in the NW) vs so many old world homes that still stand after hundreds of years. "When in Rome" is the thing, and I live in a timber rich area (and actually in the forest), so there's all that great building material right at hand, but it has always seemed at least less-than-ideal to build homes that you know won't survive like something built of longer lasting materials (and as it happens, fire proof/resistant).

I keep an eye on batteries since my company has used Lithium batteries in our proprietary tools from the 80's. A long time before anybody in the public could even say Lithium in a generic conversation. At that time, we had a partnership with a battery manufacturer, SAFT. My company was funding their research for batteries with a longer autonomy, while being submitted to hydrocarbon wells temperatures. At the time, I was a tester for the batteries, SAFT showed me how dangerous Lithium was, and how difficult a Lithium fire was to put out. Anyway, the number 1 vehicle battery manufacturer has introduced a battery using new chemistry; LFP for Lithium Iron Phosphate, instead of what you typically find in cars today; Its interesting to me, because when I left my company, we were using Lithium Oxyphosphate batteries in our tools already. That was in 2015! Here's the article from the horse's mouth: CATL, the Chinese company responsible for powering 80% of the EV market. https://www.catl.com/en/news/6091.html About the Solid State batteries, and when they will become standard in cars, there are only assumptions. What is known, is that all the battery manufacturers, including CATL, are actively working to iron out the known issues of Solid State batteries, the most notorious one is their prohibitive cost, another is reliability. Today's actual target to install Solid State batteries in cars is set to 2027, although a Chinese car manufacturer has it planned for 2026. Some of the major car manufacturers, all are invested in Solid State batteries, which seems to be the next step to break through the EV adoption plateau the world is seeing today. I heard that the US is also actively trying to get a foothold in Solid State battery technology.

I didn't even make it to the end of that one. The woman is, plain and simple, a fucking idiot.

Both of these cars are available in US, range test at 70mph was around 370. Like Chuck, I get out of the car every couple hours give or take. For me 370 range is farther than my bladder’s anyway but that’s another story. If you put the destination in the car, it will stop you at Superchargers, typically around bathrooms & food.

A 2000 red frame V11 has turned up locally, with 'a bad transmission' , removed and benched. It's a Facebook ad, in Hobe Sound FL. Wondering if it's a member here.

Problem with the direct to the battery style is the reg is always live and has a parasitic draw on the battery while parked. Combined with the ecu parasitic draw you def need to use a battery tender if parked for any length of time. Phil

Pending sale, that's good- by the time I'm ready to put it on the lift, I may be able to pick it up in person lol

Generally I find talking about EVs on the internet to be a waste of time. There is so much mis-information about them out there, and people seem to get very emotional about them. But the tech is interesting. Toyota (and Honda) put their weight behind hydrogen fuel cells, but for cars that does not seem to be a winning formula, at least any time soon. Hydrogen has much more potential in non-consumer applications like shipping, trucking, or trains, maybe even airplanes. But for consumer operated cars it is not that practical. Unless you can use liquid hydrogen, the energy density of it comes up way short. Toyota is now trying hard to get solid state batteries to work, trying to catch up in a market they were left behind in. They have even announced a solid state battery car, but the reality of it is way off in the future. They announced a car that they have not yet been able to make. They seem desperate to be included in the conversation as a player, but they have little going for them in full EV. Funny, because the BEV tech would dovetail nicely with the hybrid tech. If they built up battery tech it would help them in both BEV and hybrids. A push right now is to move towards a more true hybrid tech, an electric vehicle that also burns gasoline to recharge the batteries. But in that group if you can store more electricity in a lighter / smaller battery you can offer a significant advantage. An EV that can burn gasoline on longer trips, but runs entirely off battery for local trips and can recharge the batteries by plugging in at night while you sleep would be very appealing to many people. But without the battery tech your electric range is limited, and the usefulness is reduced. Also, one of the big theoretical advantages of solid state batteries is fast recharge time. But since no one has really brought it to market it is hard to know if the theoretical advantages are real. I am happy with the two EVs I drive. They get me around with way less hassle then the ICE vehicles they replaced. I still have a ICE vehicle, but it is more of a weekend toy we drive for fun. For day to day driving the BEVs do the job with less drama. I can see they would not be for everyone. But we typically only drive 200 miles a day, and that is well within the range of a single charge. And if we need to drive 300 or 400 miles in a day it is easy to recharge once or twice on the trip. Beyond that mileage we rarely do in a day. So, for us, a BEV works better than an ICE vehicle.

MG Cycle are good guys to buy from .

Uhh, cars.. like phones, are only charged to 80% to maximize battery life unless absolutely necessary. On a trip the navigation will take you to a supercharger when you have 15-20% charge left. Then, it will only charge as much as needed to get to the next supercharger on the route when you have 15-20% left. Generally, that takes around 15 minutes, but can be less. A trip certainly takes longer because of that, but Dorcia and I made a pact 20 years or so ago to stop every two hours and walk around a bit to ward off blood clots in old people's legs. That argument is a non starter for us but YMMV.

Interesting. The velocity stack should sound even worse! Speaking of velocity stacks I've watched a couple videos of people testing different stack designs and you can barely tell the difference on the dyno. I doubt you'd notice on the track. Even a Ramen cup did fine. Which is all to say that I probably can't mess this up too badly!

An anecdote: I used to work at the Linde annual stockholders meeting. I don't remember when this was exactly, but it is at least 15 years ago, maybe closer to 20. Anyway, at one of the stockholders meetings they talked a lot about big investments they had made in Hydrogen. A couple of years later, one of the stockholders asked why, after the big investments, there hadn't been much movement in that direction. The CEO's answer was very honest and very short: "it seems there is more resistance to hydrogen from certain directions than we reckoned with." Linde hasn't given up. Their site today: https://www.linde.com/clean-energy I am convinced that hydrogen will come to play an important role, both in transport and in "stationary engines" like, for instance, high-power mobile generators. The oil industry is doing its best, I reckon, to slow that down as much as possible.

Take yer time, change yer mind, no worries. Life is busy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg52543v6rmo Norway on track to be first to go all-electric For sure, improving the charging infrastructure is key, as is improving recharge speeds. Gas stations can just as easily add chargers as it can add hydrogen. But that misses the advantages of EVs. They can recharge at the grocery store while you are shopping, at the restaurant while you are eating, or at your house while you are sleeping. Surely some gas station style infrastructure is required for people who are traveling longer distances. But for most people charging while they are doing what the do is an easy option. So we have chargers at the local shopping centers, and around places to eat. If hydrogen is going to pan out, it will. But so far, they have yet to figure out how to make it commercially viable and something most consumers want. There is no hydrogen infrastructure in place, where as electric infrastructure is already there. They only need to add the chargers to deliver that electricity into the cars. The required infrastructure for hydrogen would have to be built from scratch. And if you think about it, hydrogen is simply adding a middleman and additional complications to the process. Take electricity, use it to make hydrogen, pressurize it to dangerous levels, then ship that and disperse it out to fill cars. Easier to just put the electricity into the car directly.

...aaand, the transmission is gone altogether. Sent for a leak repair, disappeared into thin air. Sad owner. What fits? TLM has a few, shipping would be... ugly... Who's holding?

I was watching a video the other day and the AI voice butchered the words so bad if it did not have subtitles I would have been lost.

My bike came with K&N pods . after one ride they came off and the stock set-up went on . whew , IDK how to describe the noise (not to be confused with a sound) but noise . I know I don't want to hear it again .

They were manufactured to do one thing . Accelerate .

Cheers docc! Thanks to all who have been there before….MG Cycle appears to have what is needed…and not Stein Dinse from previous commentary.

Hydrogen seems to be in the news more and more. They just did a report on this vessel on Motor Week. Check this out... https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/sea-change-hydrogen-powered-ferry-schedule/

Some light reading links for you, @Tennitragic:

That was funny . I think she went out and bought another Toyota or something . IDK what she has done w/the Tesla . I feel sorry for the man or woman that marries her !

Nice, I agree buy what you want no rules. I’m in the elevator industry that uses AC regen drives. Traction elevator is counter weighted 40% capacity, so an empty car up produces power back to the line. EV’s to me are about technology not saving the world or the whales, whatever. So you don’t have to be a Green Peace member for ownership. I’ve been to the Indian Pow Wow Maggie Valley, rode buddies FTR’s. Its an American made lead sled, too heavy for out right sport bike work but V-twin sounds awesome, it’s a hooligan ride, not a tourer. On another note Lucky Phil, you and DucatiGuzziIndian inspire me to find a V11Sport Greenie.

As cheap as Guzzi people are you’ll be lucky to get $10 bills.

$100 bills !

The scary thing about developing the perfect/superior EV battery is ; what happens when your new perfect / superior EV battery has now been usurped by a new EV battery that is now 5% lighter , 5% more efficient and 5% less expensive. This goes well until a newer EV battery is developed that is 2.5% better in all of these areas. This goes along the lines of MX bikes in the 70s-80s. Today's technology is GREAT until tomorrow's bike hits the showroom .

Nice! I’d be a little concerned that it might crack along the lamination lines but if it was printed with enough infill and thick walls it should be ok. Let us know how they do.

And I would tell that Ford CEO he could drive that EV straight out the gate and find him a new job ! If he can't support the Company that writes his check..... You don't work for the University of Louisville and wear Blue & White clothing .

Fascinating. Impressive. I’ll always be in the bleachers cheering on such things, as opposed to actually doing anything of the sort. Still, I’m amazed at the potential. My only direct connection with 3D printing so far is ordering some wind deflectors for the V85 that literally fill the void between the stanchions and tank. That gap has been viewed as the cause of lots of wind turbulence and noise since the V85 appeared. I found the fix pretty useless, but did admire the ides and execution. Then, the Georgia Guzzi Guru, Wayne Orwig, made up a test set of front and rear turn signal stalks for my EV. The OEM ones are infamous for corroding and falling apart. That led to all sorts of MacGyver fixes of the popsicle stick splints, black electrical tape covers, and cable tie supports! I wish I had a "before' pic handy. Wayne's are grand ... Best wishes from the snow-covered alps and steppes at the top of Virginia. Bill

I am an Hertz Gold member from my working days. There was a time when I was getting an email from them, each and every day about renting a Tesla for a heavy discount. I recently came accross an add stating Hertz was unloading a bunch of Teslas at sacrificed prices. Just out of curiosity, I went on their website to check out what "sacrificed prices" meant. It was all a lure. The so-called "discount" pricing was for cars that had around 100k miles, so well amortized already. The lower mileage cars were in the exact same price braket as what you could find on the market. This is not the first time I see adds for rental companies supposedly heavily discounted cars. When I was looking for a 911, I used to scan their offers, and their ask price was in the same range as other dealerships. Plus, they did not have the right color (here we go again).

It would also help if the tree huggers cleared a bit of undergrowth whilst on the job......

I was referring to methods, although fireproof materials need to be in the mix. For instance, why are cedar roofs even allowed? If we continue to build like we do now, this will keep happening. One house on a street ignites, and it goes from house to house to house. Methods and architecture needs to be changed for every rebuild, and that can only be regulated by municipalities. This might not happen overnight, but the climate has definitely changed and it makes these events more intense. If we don't change how we build, this will be a rinse and repeat possibly every few years.

It's a V11 Guzzi. First thing you do when you have any electrical issue/gremlin is do a full wiring harness/fuse block/connector/ignition switch detailed inspection. Then move onto parts replacement/testing. Phil

It's really bad in the LA area, and still spreading. 30 years ago, I worked in Pacific Palisades, and the fires have come close to my old office. As for losing stuff... we used to have some boxes of old photos and significant documents that we told ourselves we would grab if there were ever a fire here. But that was when the kids were home and we would all go together in a truck. Now we are actually scanning and digitizing all that. If my house were to burn down, I do have one prized possession that would likely survive it: a 400 pound hunk of petrified wood. It's made it over 250 million years, it wouldn't give a damn about a house fire. Evacuation... I too, would escape on a motorcycle. It would be the Husqvarna 701 for sure. A giant street-legal dirt bike that's good for two people with backpacks for food and water. If I am actually fleeing for my life from a fire, I am not going to be constrained to stay on the road. Several years ago, when there was a big fire in East San Diego county that was headed west, most of San Diego County was placed under evacuation. The potential routes were: East into the fire, South into Mexico (only two border crossings), West into the Pacific Ocean, and North to Orange County (with literally only one road, the I-5 through a military base) to use. I think they lifted the evacuation when they realized there was no realistic way to get everyone out.

I can't press the like button to this . I can only say prayers for these folks and hope for a safe exodus .

This is what rational people are are up against. This statement is total rubbish. Currently Solid State batteries have at best an energy density of 500-800 WH/KG while gasoline is 12,700 WH/KG and an efficient ICE engine is between 30-40 % efficiency. Same as Range claims that when tested in the real world fall not just a bit short but orders of magnitude short. Charging time? well headline charge times are to 80% battery capacity and that last bit they always leave out. It's in the fine print. It's the last 20% that takes the time and is what you need on a long trip. Phil