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At the BMW Dealer in Escondido, CA a few weeks ago after I had dropped in to see the new Guzzis they were carrying (Thanks Scud for the tip)...they also had a BMW Scooter/Motorcycle that was electric. $15K for a 75 mile range...good looking, but I just don't get the price vs. range ROI...one can get 3 nice used Guzzis for the price of 1 electric BMW scooter/motorbike.
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Hello P6X...I think the fund raising is like most activities, you have to ask friends, family for donations or possibly even contribute yourself. I have never done a group ride before but will give it some consideration here over the next day and let you know. Good to hear the Quota is coming out of aestivation (summer hibernation) finally.
I do have a Purple Flag with the Motorcycle Grand Tour of Texas logo on it that I had bought from David...so I'm ready for the rally...will just need to find a way to attach it via a small flag pole of some sorts.
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Or Marc doesn’t have the right chemistry with the bike…no matter how good it is. Some folks bond with a bike and others don’t. You would not say that a V11 or a Griso or a Norge or Stelvio are not great bikes but they don’t always match the taste or style of riding a person wants.
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Unfortunately these two motorcycles are not even close to being comparable!!! Both nice indeed but very different animals.
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On 8/1/2024 at 5:21 PM, FreyZI said:
So, barely had time to ride this summer, what with mountaineering in Iceland and scuba diving in Mexico, among other things.
Best opening line of a post yet here!
Sounds like the beginning of a James Bond movie....
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It's a lovely green at least...
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We happen to be in town for a few days of R&R…this sounds like a good excuse to go over and see the shop and grab a coffee nearby in the morning as well since we are very close by. I am hoping they might offer rentals at some point for the next visit…last time I was in town I rented a Triumph Bonneville from a dealer in San Diego but would love to rent a newer Guzzi next time!
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Thankfully the CARC bikes do not need to have the TPS fiddled with manually...all done electronically via Guzzidiag. SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier than the V11's...
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If it's the same as the 2002 V11 Scura, then I have a stock one available. It's in Houston so would need to be shipped.
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Make sure your volt meter is set to Milli Volts not any other Volts…or your decimal reading will be off and hard to see if you are truly seeing 157 MV versus 0.2 KV or 2V.
Also highly recommend getting a Casper Cable to connect as that’s much easier to use than poking wires into the harness.
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8 hours ago, Speedfrog said:
If you are seeking out guidance on mini-split AC units for your garage, please type Starter motor repair in the search box.
Brilliant!
Of course, we could derail it further by adding a Specialty Coffee Machine installation setup as well in said garage and add innovative electrical configurations!
I'm impressed that Docc keeps specialty stringed instruments in the garage rather than in the house...that must mean the garage is truly and well maintained by the A/C setup. I suspect there might also be an alarm bell in there just to be sure the Mandolin and Stradivarius are not negatively impacted when the humidity gets too high!
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12 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:
Mitsubishi or Dakin. I have both.
Phil
Excellent…thank you!!
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Good work P! You’re burning at least 10,000 calories working under these conditions!!
For me the only way it’s tolerable to work in the garage these days in this 100+F heat…I’m seriously considering installing a split unit!! Willing to take recommendations on good brands if anyone has one installed!
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9 hours ago, GuzziMoto said:
The 8V Griso gets less mpg then the 2V Griso it replaced, I commonly got 45 - 48 mpg with my 2V Griso. You seem to get decent mpg, better then most report. But that can come down to how you ride. If you rode a 2V Griso the way you ride an 8V Griso I suspect you would be in the upper 40's to 50 mpg. The 2V Griso and 8V Griso are pretty close to exactly the same size motorcycle, they should get the same fuel mileage. Some would say the 8V Griso should get less fuel mileage as it makes more power. But that would only hold true if you were riding it in a way that uses that extra power. At 70 mph going down the road both the 2V and 8V would need almost exactly the same amount of power to go down the road. To make the same amount of power the 8V motor uses more fuel, and thus gets worse fuel mileage. I think two things offer a clue as to why that is the case. The 8V Griso does not seem to like free flowing exhausts. It seems to have a lot of valve overlap and without enough restriction in the exhaust air and fuel goes into and straight out of the combustion chamber. That wasted air and fuel does not make power but it does reduce fuel mileage and contribute to poor running. And even with a more restrictive exhaust system the motors is not as fuel efficient as the 2V motor, and that is usually indicative of an inferior combustion chamber shape, which results in needing more fuel to make the same amount of power.
Of course, as I mentioned, all that being so I would still take an 8V Griso over the 2V version, as I am not buying a motorcycle for purely logical reasons. It is for fun, and I think the 8V version would be more fun. As mentioned, I bought mine long before the 8V version was a thing. And other then the tappet fiasco with the first version of the 8V motor I would rather have the power of the 8V.
To make this even further into the weeds, and to rattle Pete, I will mention that when they showed the protype of the Griso it had the 4V motor of the Daytona and Centauro. And that is the motor I really wanted in my Griso. I was disappointed that by the time they released the Griso it had basically the V11 Sport motor. I really wanted the 4V motor. My Daytona is so cool to ride. The motor has a feel that other Guzzi's don't, it has a feel like a hot rod tractor.
Good explanations and background above.
It’s logical to me that a 2V 1100 motor would get better mileage than a 2V 1200 motor (like my 2008 Norge) or vs a 4V/8V 1200 motor (as is my 2015 Griso) going the same speed…tuned properly as well.
it seems to me that Guzzi managed to get more power and torque with the same weight in a 1200 displacement engine and still maintained the same fuel economy as the older 2V 1200…that’s pretty good engineering…and has also led to a different riding experience as well…both of them very enjoyable but different.
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47 minutes ago, GuzziMoto said:
and in the poor fuel mileage of all 8V Griso's…..
Interesting….what do you consider “poor mileage”?
I regularly get 40 mpg on the 2015 8V Griso and the 2008 2V Norge….both mapped with Beetle maps…that’s a combo of highway and backroads riding. If I rode exclusively backroads I see 42-44 mpg on both easily.
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It sounds like the first one had 2 engines...something happened to the original engine, and then the replacement 1200S was also rebuilt...very odd. Sounds like buying a Frankenstein.
Now the 1200 S (Breva Sport) was a very nice bike...think of it as a Naked Norge...but it was tuned differently than the Norge if I recall correctly, had some nice aesthetics as well (white gauges...unfortunately would leak or fog up)...but came in Red and Black...a stunning looking bike indeed...very fun to ride. I was in possession of one for a couple of weeks years ago having bought it for some folks who were visiting and then took possession.
As an owner of a Red/Black 2015 Griso I can attest that it's a fabulous bike and honestly it's a work of art, and unique. The second option above being all stock I would (if the temptation exists) err on buying the newer unmolested one, then an older Frankenstein...no matter how well it was put together.
Now...bear in mind...the Griso is not a bike that one immediately bonds with...it does take some time and configurations/modifications are needed to get it setup for your ergonomics. With a longer wheelbase, the suspension is also in need of attention (proper sag and rebound, possibly replace the soft stock spring), and likely bar risers or modified bars, lowered foot pegs and a good seat as the stock one is beautiful but uncomfortable. Once all of that is done, it's an all day touring beast...amazing power, 40 mpg regularly, and just never runs out of power up to triple digits. A good fairing or screen is needed, and these are rare so most folks put a Dart Marlin on...I was lucky to get a Givi A770 from Kindoy (same as Pete has on his red one) and it transforms the bike aerodynamically to absolutely perfectly smooth air at any speed.
Grisos are wonderful beasts...and live up to their namesake!
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10 hours ago, LowRyter said:
So who will win first? Acosta's first or MM's next?
I don't want to jinx it...but am hoping that Marquez gets it, now that he's starting so much farther up in position, he doesn't have to try to go from 13/14 to 2nd...perhaps he can ride a clean race and win. Mugello is a fast track...360 km/h top speed...just madness...but oh so thrilling to watch!
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Having grown up in California and lived there for half my life, and felt several big earthquakes including the 1989 Loma Prieta one (living in Palo Alto then), I do prefer the "advance warning" of a hurricane vs. the suddenness of an earthquake. Now having been thru quite a few hurricanes (Rita, Ike, Harvey and some major tropical storms here as well) it's certainly preferable to an earthquake. Houston normally just doesn't have tornados, having to get above Dallas and into Oklahoma/Kansas areas to have that as a regular risk. Who knows anymore with the warming, this could be a treacherous year of hurricanes too given the rising gulf ocean waters.
I've seen the last few days of amazingly large hail in towns a few hours north (tennis ball sized) that looks like it could just pulverize you on the motorcycle...smashing windshields on cars very easily.
Summer may be too hot to ride again for a month or so as it was last summer...regularly hitting 115F heat index values for almost 30 days straight...
On the plus side, the insurance company has been exceptionally fast in authorizing the repayment of expenses, after shelling out the deductible...so that's good...no fighting with them at least.
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How very cool...if my memory is correct, we would often visit a very small village up in the mountains near Bolzano called Brez where my Dad had lots of friends from his earlier days roaming around Europe...I distinctly remember the old timers drinking a lot of Grappa, at age 13 it tasted awful To get there we had to go up a very twisty curvy road...I would love to go back there and ride a motorcycle. The food was amazing, the water very tasty, but lacking in iodine it seems as many of the older people had goiter. Really interesting trip...
My parents had spent a lot of time in Ortisei (St. Ulrich) in the early 60's...so my sister was born in Bolzano...and he would go back and visit a lot. Lovely scenery all around...every road a tasty treat. Going back and forth over the Brenner several times was a treat.
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Just popped up for sale…it’s Red!!
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1 hour ago, p6x said:
From what I understood, and I am not a meteorologist, the major issue with Derechos, is they are impossible to predict ahead of time. Hence, when it hit us, the warning came basically at the time the Derecho formed.
I received the warning on my phone at 18:15, all hell came loose at 18:25! I was home, and it was like suddenly the lights were switched off outside. Some of the residents that were on I-10 said they were like sitting ducks, they could do nothing. This was my first encounter of such a weather event, and I must admit that in a wooden house, I did not feel that comfortable.
I had a lot of damage at my house, just about a mile from you P6X with that Derecho...going thru repairs now.
By the way, if you're out riding for the Grand Tour and headed to Marfa...take a look at this news report from this morning!!
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-town-deploys-snow-plows-after-50-degree/story?id=110671830
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I remember on a very long family trip to Europe in 1978, my dad was fond of swiping those little espresso cups from every cafe we visited, by the end of the 5 month trip galavanting around Europe in a Mercedes van that we had quite a collection by the end. A real treasure trove of cups and saucers. Cafe Meinl, Agip 6 legged dog and others come to mind, special cafe's in Trieste, Bolzano, Bassano del Grappa were some of the favorite haunts on that trip.
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5 hours ago, po18guy said:
"Life is too short for bad coffee"
To be complemented by "Life is too short for bad wine"! Perhaps just as important!
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V11 Scura stock OEM La Franconis are absolutely perfect sounding...no need to modify at all...beautiful sound and performance.
The Griso stock trombone sounds great, heavy yes, looks a little funny yes from the side, but works perfectly. I'm curious whether the newly acquired Termignoni will sound better than stock...don't know yet...but hopefully performance is the same, maybe a nicer sound. Will know when I get around to installing it in a couple of weeks and/or whether another map is needed...hopefully not. Beetle map (stock exhaust) already makes the bike super smooth, no hiccups, perfect acceleration, engine breaking etc.
Norge stock muffler...blah sound and looks, MUCH better with an Agostini (of course accompanied by a Beetle map), I'm guessing Mistral also equivalent to Agostini.
The video I think is shot in So. Cal...Angeles crest road based on other videos on his channel, and even w/o sound, it's a good showcase for the Griso's rideability and it's AMAZING good looks! 'Nuff said!
Now back to riding!
Highly upgraded 2017 Griso 1200 ..( My other one)
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Smokin! Lots of work went into this one...what a beauty!