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Hi, Can we discuss charging system issues again/still, I have a problem, my '03 V11 Lemans no longer charges at idle (was 14.1vdc @1100 rpm last spring). It appears the system voltage comes up at around 2400 rpm now versus 1100 before. The Odyssey PC545 is 2 years old and tests good, my headlight, tach & charge TT function normally. I spliced out the burned stator connector pins when I replaced the battery. I also attached a ground lead from the VR to the timing chest. The bike has a Kuryakyn led voltmeter that was connected to the headlight circuit by the previous owner, it always indicated an undercharge condition until I put the headlight on relays, after that the system voltage indicated by the Kury LED was reliable. My plan is to now check the stator open circuit AC voltage & attempt to determine if the rectifier lost bias/open ( I'm a little unclear about checking VR though). I was pricing VR's at Euro Motoelectrics and they have a disclamer..USE OF ODYSSEY BATTERY ( DRY CELL DESIGN) AND LITHIUM IRON BATTERY NOT RECOMMENDED OR SUPPORTED FOR WARRANTY. My bike has run a PC545 from '06 until 2020 when I replaced it with a new PC545. I sent them a request for more info about they're disclaimer because I want to continue using the Odyssey battery. Pricing on their VR's are more attractive than OEM. I also wonder if I caused an issue by installing headlight relays. I'm unclear about the VR reference voltage than is picked up from the headlight circuit. By adding the HDL relays it removed the voltage drop in that circuit. Could it have effected VR sensing system voltage accurately? Anyway, thanks for reading my thoughts here and please feel free to toss out opinions & advice, it'll be much appreciated. Art

Hi Frey, Hey, maybe someday we'll see you rumble into a MG rally on your new V11 Lemans like Terry used to......with Maggie on the back dressed in black leather head to toe. I don't think any of us would expect you to bring Maggie. Anyway, great to know who got the V11, good for you, enjoy it! Art

Pics are probably taken afterhours.

FWIW, my '03 Lemans had an annoying hand numbing vibration between 3500-4500 rpm when I bought it in '15. The original owner installed DAS Mototec clip ons that I thought might be the problem but after reading posts that others had the same issue with oe bars, i let the clip ons stay. I installed a pair of "heavy" bar ends (don't recall the brand), gave the bike a "decent tune up" and somehow the vibration is no longer hand numbing.

Hi Chuck, My stand has a thru bolt into a tab welded on the frame but you're right, the bolt had backed out, when that happened the stand was almost useless. I refastened the stand and then went on to make a slight mod to the increase it's length by about a half inch and broaden it's footprint. The spring loaded up stand is still awkward to deploy because I have to lean the bike slightly right to fully extend the stand but had to do that before the mod, just not as much. I'm used to it, no big deal and I don't have to worry about the wind blowing it over now. ....OK, in case I'm confusing anyone...the stand mod I did was on my '87 Lemans, not my V11 Lemans. Just thought I'd add that since it dawned on me that I'm on the V11 board and not the Tonti stuff group. Also, I'll now check my V11 stand mount hardware too after some of you (Docc, Chris, etc.) enountered loose hdwe there. Thanks, Art

Thanks Chris, I'll look into it!

Hi, - I did the seat/high cam spring swap a few years ago. I think I checked cable slack to make sure I got full high cam but will recheck. - I don't recall whether I move to high cam before or after ign "on".....in the Spring I'll try to figure out if either makes a difference for my bike. Thanks! Art

Hi Chris, I did something like that to my Wing & LMIV. After installing new fork springs on the Goldwing, I felt the lean angle on the side stand (especially when the rear shock was aired up} was not only too severe but required more grunt to get it upright. So, I added a small shim to the bottom of the stand that also increased the footprint for more load bearing. On my Lemans, I added about 1/2" thick shim and doubled the size of the footprint. The side stand down lean angle was so great that it would be able to fall over if anything was in the the side bag. I'd post pics but haven't figured out how to make my photos under 200kb....something else I have add to my "things to learn" list! Art

Geez, thanks for the quick replies! I guess I'm good to go then, what you're all describing is exactly what is happening. Terrific, I can cross that off my "things to do" list. And to the best of my knowledge and the original owner/po, the bike has the factory map and I'm really not enthusiastic about changing it because it runs great imo. Thanks again, Art

Hi All, My '03 V11 Lemans, when cold, requires a twist of the throttle to start. The bike has always required a slight throttle manipulation for the engine to start & run when cold according to the previous owner. I figure the bike is fuel injected (15M PF3C)and shouldn't need anything other than run the "choke/enrichener/throttle plates" to high cam and hit the start button. When I do the high cam and hit the starter button, the engine cranks and wants to start...sometimes it will start momentarily then stall, other times it will crank and not start. However, it will always start & run with a little twist of the throttle. In early 2020, I had some time on my hands and did the "decent tune-up". IMO, since the tune-up, the difference in overall performance was a huge improvement. However, the twist of the throttle thing when cold still exists and was wondering if this is "normal". The owners manual says nothing about throttle manipulation during the starting mode. I have looked/checked for vaccuum leaks but have found none other than the TB vac ports which I capped off. The tb shafts have very slight wear/side play but they dont appear to be leaking...the bike only has about 10k miles on it. The TPS seemed to have a smooth transition though the mv range when I set it...no hiccups. The mechanical high cam linkage & tb linkage are in good working condtion..no slop. The crank position sensor was out for a new oring, found no metal debris on the sensor. Plug wires & caps were replaced because one cap had tip over damage & high resistance. Air filter was replaced. Engine & air temp sensors seem to be working and display ambient temps until engine heat causes a rise. Thanks for reading. Art

Hi, Andy, PL & LP...thanks for your thoughts and experiences, it's appreciated! Art

Hi, PhillipLarsen & BillyB - Thanks for the feedback and advice. Andy York – The pinion seal didn’t appear to have had a leak but while the ring gear is out of the unit I’d like to replace the pinion seals too. And, I did feel a slight amount of pinion play like something going on in the lower pinion bearing area. However, it is an extremely low mileage unit. I did read somewhere that some of the pinions were not fully seated into the drive housing when originally assembled, the result was some endplay or slop but not enough to cause catastrophic failure. MartyNZ – Thanks for the info & pics…big help! I totally forgot about heat. The thing was in the oven so I could get the bearing race to drop out in order to replace the outside seal….I should have tried hammering away at the ringnut at the same time…duh. Thanks, Art

Hi Phil, I originally started down that road but after chewing up a couple brass drifts I switched to a steel one that began to destroy the nut. So, I figure before I get to the point of no return, I'd make or get a spanner socket. The drive is original to the bike and was replaced by the PO about 15 years ago because it leaked. I'd like to get this unit back into the bike because it is low mileage (under 6k), nothing needs to be shimmed and the paint finish matches the engine & trans. Yeah, I don't get why the ringnut is so tight other than maybe corrosion, the drive looks to have been well cared for during it's out of service years. Oh well. Thanks, Art

Also, I haven't figured out how to post pics here.

Terry Barnes is listed as a contact for the SOUTHWEST OHIO MOTO GUZZI BREAKFAST so, I assume he is still with us but I know for sure Terry Whittaker is not. That's all I know and I've never met Terry Barnes.

Hi, While we're on the rear drive....is there anyone manufacturing or have available a spanner socket for the ringnut (#18) that retains the pinion assembly? I'm at a point where I've got a ringnut on order for the purpose of making my own spanner. I'd prefer to buy one already made since my machine shop consists of a cut-off wheel & Dremel tool. Art Rear Drive Spanner.docx

I thought the same...could be Terry Whitakers bike. He had a V11 Lemans & Centauro, lived in SW Ohio, passed a year or so ago. I think $3300 is on the low side for that bike if it isn't too fubar. Who knows if bags mounts are still available for those things and this one has them. FWIW....... SOUTHWEST OHIO MOTO GUZZI BREAKFAST UPDATE We have changed our breakfast meeting place and time. We will continue to meet on the 1st Saturday of the month, at 10:00 A.M. The new venue is: The Village Family Restaurant, 144 S. Main Street, Waynesville, Ohio. Terry Barnes will serve as contact person: Tom Rogers, 937-266-3971 or Terry Barnes, 937-287- 2851, oldmojo@yahoo.com. This may change down the road, or be supplemented should others want to pitch in. Anyway, Happy Holidays y'all! Art

I did what PO18guy did and then went to the local mom & pop cycle speed shop for the terminal ends. I believe I reused the wire boot up at the coil. The reason I replaced them was that the right plug cap was damaged in a fall by the PO and the fact that they were 18+ years old. ....I believe mine have the 5k resistor caps.

Scud, Thanks for the copper ground rod suggestion! I ordered a Mojo Lever and will go at the NM again. I see where you had posted at WGC back in August and I had commented there too but totally forgot about the thread there. Oops, old age hurts. Bill, Goodluck to ya!

Hi Scud, Thanks for the quick response and advice. I guess I'll get an order going for the Mojo Lever & Ru-glyde. I'm familiar with the Ru-glyde from when I had access to a Coats pneumatic changer. On another related note, my No-mar came with a wrinkle paint finish and on the drop down center post. Some of the paint finish flakes off onto the wheel hub every time I lock down the post, I'm thinking about removing all the paint from the post....what were they thinking??!! Anyway, thanks again, Art

Hi Scud, If you don't mind me asking.....Were you using the Mojolever with your HF changer? If so, do you plan on using the Mojolever with the No-Mar changer or the No-Mar bar? I bought a No-Mar changer but I'm having a rough way to go using their bar when reinstalling the tire. I'd appreciate anything you have to offer on the subject. Thanks, Art

Hi Bill, I bought the same model No-Mar in Jan 2019 at the International MC Show in Cleveland. NM threw in the the scratch proof bead breaker too. I haven't needed it yet but will in June I figure. I've got the unit stowed in the corner of the garage but installed drop in anchors in the garage floor where I plan on using it from time to time. I've changed many tires on a pneumatic machine but never on a manual set-up. The NM folks have some great videos on demount & mount, I'll try to learn something before I damage a wheel or tire, I hope. Like Leroysch pointed out about the wrinkle finish paint on the center post, it flakes off...I don't like it either. May have to get center post finish blasted off and recoat with krylon, rustoleum, etc. I didn't go for the NM balancer either, bought a Marc Parnes balancer that I'll use in conjuntction with a couple of jack stands for side support. Art

I elected to replace internal filter on my '03 Lemans because tank gasket failed. Although the internal lines looked fine, I figured I didn't want to ever go in there again (unless pump failed) so, I replaced the 17 year old lines with the Euro Moto item specified in prior post. Good luck!

I've been buying my crush washers from McMaster-Carr for most of my stuff (bikes & cars).

Thanks Pete, I know if I buy one, my original will probably never leak again or fail...cheap insurance. Art