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@docc OnlineComponents have them on back-order too. 1000 expected on 12/13/2021. 26 weeks factory lead time. https://www.onlinecomponents.com/en/cit-relay-and-switch/a11csq12vdc15r-51176058.html

@docc My 5 OMRON are on the way for about $46. What's funny, is when I searched for relays here in the USA, I draw a blank. When I searched in EUROPE, using QWANT, I got that hit on the CIT through DigiKey. Alan Romero has kindly proposed to quote; let me see if he wants to send me a free sample. But if the CIT works for our application, at least we have a replacement for the defunct OMRON.

I found these relay while searching in Europe; Here's the pricing from a Belgium based company named DigiKEY; https://www.digikey.be/products/fr?keywords=A11CSQ12VDC1.5R As you can see, it is quite cheap. 1.66 EUR for one, 1.55 EUR for 10 and so on. Our good friend at CIT Relay and Switch has offered to quote. Should we make a collegial order, to be stocked for those who need them? I could ask him to send a sample, so we can give it a trial by fire. Once confirmed, we purchase a quantity that someone with space can stock?

Here's the reply from CIT relay and switch;

@doc; It does not make sense to me that the relays could not have a continuous carry load. It is not specified in the CIT A6 data sheet, but I expect it is the case. I sent an email to the company in Belgium, with the OMRON G8HE data sheet attached. Let's see if they answer.

Only the #1 relay has three prongs.(pins) #2,3,4,5 have two prongs.(pins)

@docc I found this relay from a company Belgium based; CIT, 30A SPDT; Here's the data sheet. While it is not 35A NO, 30A, it probably works. It costs only 1.92 EUR; look at the sizes it would fit the relay box of the Guzzi.

The norm to look for is "ISO 280". I found more OMRON relays in Europe, unfortunately, all with a zero stock. And in any case, those relays were all G8V There are two SPDT types: 10A and 20A. Those are good for accessories, and NOT for engine starter. Therefore, we can keep the G8HE for position 1 exclusively. I think we can use the G8V in position 2,3,4,5.

Exactly, not only the relay needs to fit the bill, but it also needs to fit the ISO socket. G8HE Rev A High-Current Micro ISO Automotive Relay G8HE • Available in both SPST and SPDT versions • Miniaturized package (reduced outer length and width) • Designed to meet all standard Mini ISO load requirements • L x W x H = 22.7 x 15.2 x 26.6 mm nominal • ISO footprint with 280-size coil terminals for insertion error-proofing with standard Micro ISO product • Fully automated assembly

I wonder if we should save these data sheets. They may eventually go away. Although the OMRON G8HE seem to be harder to find too. The data sheet will become a moot point. Thinking of it, it is scary though that without a working relay, you would be unable to start your engine, making the bike similar to the flower pot you have in your living room. Initially, this was a 4 dollars component, that can immobilize a bike any time it chooses to quit on you. I will check with MPH, if they know of any other equivalent component that would fit the job.

As discussed above in the email chain, the college decided the R1 was a different surge suppressor than the R. This is what the R stands for according to OMRON's data sheet. It is even possible, and I am going out on a limb here, given that it is a surge suppressor, the R1 maybe that larger blade for better conductivity while everything else remains the same. Again, if you read the feed-back about the R1, it is said the larger blade fits the socket anyway.

Follow the link proposed by @paulnaz earlier on in the chain. This links to an eBay listing. They are identical to the ones I purchased from a different eBay seller. Not that I did not consider @paulnaz listing, but the one I chose were relatively cheaper. That's all. I will install those on my V11 Le Mans 2004 whenever they show up.

I have ordered five from a seller who promised his R1s were OMRON original. Once they get to me, I will take pictures and post them here.

Got the cancel email this morning! "Todaycomponents.com" should rename themselves "Yesterdaycomponents.com" lol.... Their website was not updated to reflect the zero stock. I am going to go with the "R1" which I found on eBay.

Correct! All the five relays currently installed are made in Portugal from Tyco. The starter motor relay is the only one with that "A403" spec. The others have "A103" or A203". Incidentally, I got two replies from two different sellers of "R1" OMRON G8HE; they don't know the difference. One stated that OMRON no longer manufactures either. I purchased 10; I will replace my current 5, and will have 5 spare. We can expect those to eventually go out of stock for good. We should maybe try to find a replacement that is still being manufactured today. Although the number of V11 Guzzi owners will decrease as we slowly vanish from earth. It appears the future will only be electric....

Thanks for confirming. OMRON did specify ISO norms for the socket, as we can expect Moto Guzzi to have followed those rather than SAE. However, I have not yet confirmed the relay is the culprit. By the way, I have checked all the 5 relays, and only the 1st one from the left has three prongs. The others only have two. Which identify it as the starter motor relay. Also, the other relays have different labels, although all of them come from that same company in Portugal. Tyco. Tyco still exists: here's the company's business information: https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.tyco_electronics_-_componentes_electromecânicos_lda.f29e2be2ec2a21e03d9274c17c7f7af1.html

Look at the data sheet from Omron: "R" stands for "Surge Suppressor". It is a built in resistor which is described at the line: coil rating: surge suppressor resistance.1/2 watt 680 ohms. I bet they updated the surge suppressor specs at some point and it became R1. @Pressureangle confirmed he installed an R1 on his bike with no trouble. When I did my search (I am not using Google by the way), the OMRON G8HE-1CT7T-R1-DC12 popped all the time. It seems it is easier to find, and may confirm it is a later spec. And before you ask: This is an SPDT relay type that stands for Single Pole Double Throw. IN the G8HE line there is also another type named SPST for Single Pole Single Throw.

I found a company that had them in stock, same part, so I purchased them. https://www.todaycomponents.com/relay/omron-g8he-1c7t-r-dc12-relay.html

I found a company who still has them: OMRON G8HE-1CT7T-R-DC12 Here's the link. The G8HE- 1CT7T is top of the list. I bought 10.

@paulnaz however those are "R1" and not "R". The middle prong of the three prongs side is larger than the one currently installed, made in Portugal. I don't think it would fit in the socket. As you can see in the pictures below. I am looking if I can find an equivalent relay from another brand. All the other relays have only two prongs. Fortunately, there was a spare 15 A fuse....

Yesterday, October 6th 2021, the starter motor did not crank immediately upon pushing the switch. The Neutral and low oil pressure lights dimmed, so the current was drawn, but the starter only kicked in after about one second. This morning, the same situation happened, but it blew the 15 amps mains fuse. The battery is fine. I changed the fuse, and started the bike. Same issue without blowing the fuse. The starter motor did not crank right at the button push. The light intensity showed the current was drawn but the motor did not turn run away. It took about one second. Could be a sticky starter motor, or a going bad relay. Unfortunately, the OMRON G8HE-1C7T-R-DC12 DC12V does not seem to be available from a trusted seller. I found some on Amazon or eBay, but the sellers have warnings from "fakeguard". Anybody has any available for purchase? LMK

I like the idea of getting a proper diagnostic before an intervention. In the case of a V11, the piecemeal approach is the only one available at this time, for motorbikes who are no longer in production. The evolution of electronics have now gone to the point where equipment can alert the user of a malfunction, even ahead of time, and in some cases, identify the exact component that needs to be calibrated or replaced. I am not necessarily referring to the automotive industry. The trial and error has been the method of choice for decades before the Predictive Maintenance replaced it. We had to use oscilloscopes to monitor analogical signals, and rely upon our skills to pick the module that did not perform as expected. Verify the components, find the culprit, and verify the problem is no longer there. Sometimes, there were no clear cut answer. So we had to change components and test again, and repeat. Back to V11, there are a series of checks and tune ups that have been proposed elsewhere in the forum, and it is up to the individual to acquire the necessary tools, or to find a workshop to delegate the task. I have purchased all the equipment, but before I start intervening, I am in the testing phase. I am making sure the problem can be reproduced, and how and when it happens. That, and taking stoke of the other owner's experience as reported in the various forums. I wish it was straight forward, but it never is. I may live with the V11's coughing every now and then, or I will try to get it better. But I will proceed by steps.

It would be easy to tell you to never give up. I am four years younger than you are, and I had to give up on something I have done for a good part of my life because of a decaying ability. I think it comes down to how at ease you will be when you try to ride again, and how safe you will feel when you are on the motorbike. As long as you still experience the good vibrations, then don't look at the rest.

For the first time, I had baked oysters three days ago. It was ok. However nothing like eating them raw with a bit of vinegar and lemon.

@Kane Although I found someone EUR based willing to receive the tinned enclosed fishes, I am unable to complete the transaction on their website. I have some people looking out for these in supermarkets, but none of them live in Brittany. The lady who answered once is no longer communicating. Not giving up...