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Great picture KB. That's the way to thwap it........

Maybe a little reality is in order. Yah, the Guzzi's great, but it is PRECISELY because of the way it looks and sounds. It uses a 60's tech engine in a gear box that is suspect, with torque reaction shaft drive. It's pretty heavy and slow -- but doesn't offset that by being rock solid at high speed like other heavy, slow bikes. The suspension is froggy, mostly 'cuz the bike's weighted weirdly, but also because apparently Guzzi never heard of progressive linkage and applies suspension bits as if everyone was (I guess an Italian) 5'8" and weighed 165lbs........... It sucks gas like a pig, and it helps that the tank has a phantom gallon and a half you can't get to..... Add to this: questionable paint, some QC problems with bearings and valve guides, gear springs that break without warning, and (for the really less lucky among us) exploding clutches. Of course the customer service and warranty response is, at best, spotty. You gotta love it to put up with all this, of course, but it's no wonder there are a lot of 3-5 year old V11's that guys have grown a little tired of. I love mine, but truly...........one of the reasons I think it'll always be in the garage is that the resale on them is worthless.........it's taken so much time and effort getting sorted, it's only worth a lot to ME. Now , of course, it will run forever as all sorted Guzzis do. And it sounds and looks SO GOOD. But don't blame anyone who'd rather go out to his garage on a free Sunday and see a Honda parked there. He may ride a bike with a little less character, but he'll be sure to ride.

yeah, the only thing the ST needs to become the 'perfect' tourer would be a diet. It's well over 700lbs with gas. If it lost 50-75lbs it'd be just AWESOME. Even so, it's monster fast and handles a dream, as well as having all the creature comforts : Big saddlebags, electric windshield, heated grips. But, this is a Guzzi forum................

Eeek. I will not tour my Scura again unless I commit to fix this now. Luckily, (?!?) I got me one of these for touring.......... (Don't vomit on it, please)

they suck and they're ugly, i'm too lazy to tear it off right now. It's a laminar lip........ should be called a laminar rip (off). you want mine?

Right after a wash.......... But it has been known to leak on occasion, just like the rest of us.

I'm late! I'm late!! I'm late to the thread!!! But, I have the overriding excuse.................... I forgot to bring............. MY SCURA Tremble, all ye unfaithful, at the blackness of my beauty............... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

An awful sign when the boys on this forum are lining up to call the V11 "incomplete" Snap out of it, men!! Only babies and (the less masculine of us) want anything less than the character and tuneful ride that only the V11 can deliver...........Whatcha want? A bike that goes, stops and turns like a modern..........uh........JAP BIKE ?? !! ?? Why you...........you....................WUSSIES. Get back on yer bikes.................you guys make me SICK.

Rich has had a particularily bad time with his Scura -- Mine has had none of these problems, fine forks, paint looks new, no problems with the rear shock, not once stranded with vapor lock. Also, no clutch, gearcase or valve troubles although these also seem to show up with varying frequency. BUT, you can DEPEND on replacing the pawl spring and arm and sorting the suspension IN SOME WAY - both of which aren't problems on later Ohlins equipped bikes. Meanwhile, you can sort these issues adding on to the low $8k price you see and still get a heckuva deal.

I believe there's a 910 Brutale in my future....... KB is hereby known forever more as the SAGE OF SCURA I Never seem to have anything to add after he holds forth on the black beauty...............

Many of them from Formula One near me in Bayshore. They are owned by a guy who also owns an Aprilia/Guzzi dealer in NYC, that store is absolutely beautiful and no more than 2 years old. I heard that they were in deep, deep troubles and probably they are bailing on Guzzi stock. Don't know why they are doing it thru Bayshore, which does more Kawi/Suzi/and Aprilia and ZERO guzzi, AFAIK. NYMotorcycles, which they also own, is doing well, selling Kawi and Yammy kill bikes to mostly Queens/Manhattan kids. I think their NYC Aprilia/Guzzi experiment has failed and they're dumping what's left of their stock before they close down in NYC. Thay are very reputable and looks like a great and golden opportunity to pick up some cheap, brand new bikes -- if you're in the market. Let's see if they've got a leftover Tuono they're looking to dump....... Dan

Factory head guards are useless, they will shatter with almost any speed (or zero speed) tip over (ask me how I know). Joe Kenny was suggested and a good choice, I went with these from Harper's MotoGuzzi which look the business and were reasonable (I thought) at $85. Dan

My favorite, but since it was already taken........ Sir Bedevere: What makes you think she's a witch? Peasant : Well, she turned me into a newt. Sir Bedevere: A newt? Peasant : ...I got better. Crowd: [shouts] Burn her anyway!

Thanx boys -- Yes, we do not plan to be on the road past daylight hoping to be checked in somewhere by 4PM Even last year we were stopped twice by rangers who kindly let us go with warnings - we were doing 60/65 or so and the limit as you know is 45mph.......don't see how anyone can drive that slow, but whatever......... We were on Skyline drive coming up last year on a Sunday.........that was an awful time. We hope to be riding mostly during the week, hauling/trailering on the w'end and avoiding the creepers.

Pete (as always) is exactly right. Had the same issue, is a 5 minute fix. Those gaskets have a tendency to fail - they're pretty thin - can look like a whole lot worse problem than it is. (perpetually dirty boots!!). While you're there, replace the valve cover guards with something that might actually WORK should your bike go over........plenty of options out there for that. Dan

Trailering with my brother-in-law this w'end down to Harrisonburg, VA. We'll leave the trailer there and spend the week (!?!) on the Blue Ridge Parkway. We'll run the whole length, do the 'de riguer' Tail of the Dragon and other Tennessee roads and come back up to meet the trailer and head home. we'll be on the road the entire week of 10/17. We managed only 3 days of this last year and loved it so much, we blocked out a full week for it this year (That's me in the Avatar on top of Roanoake mountain last year). He'll be riding his Ducati S4 and I'll be on the black beastie. If anyone living in VA, NC, SC, TN or even northwest GA would like to join us for an hour, a day or more, we'd love the company. We're going to eat a leisurely breakfast, do maybe 250 miles a day and sleep wherever we end up. If anyone's interested, give me a PM and I'll send you my cellphone number so we can meet up on the trail. Call me at night when I'm sure to be good'n drunk on my brother-in-law's fine single malt scotch he always totes with him on our trips..................... Dan

Upswept pipes distinguish this Duck as an S2R, which uses the 803cc motor. (unless it's S4R with 996 racing killer engine? Maybe so.) 900 motor scrapped a few years ago in favor of the 1000 dual spark motor and this one, a beauty to ride actually. Next year Ducati will install the 1000cc motor with S2R bling. Some of us Guzzi guys are a little fond of dry clutch noise too, but the ducati race replicas (999, 749) sound like coffee cans full of bolts when they cruise into the local hangout. Yah, who could forget the lowly parallell twin?? Most of us cut our teeth on one or more jap parallells, right? I know I did. Old bonnevilles? oh yeah, I guess I've heard of them, too. T120, as in die at 120mph? I remember now. On second look, I think it is an S4R........that's a lotta bike for a woman that size. Wow, no wonder she can pass you, she only need twist the throttle.

handles better???????? I'm wondering if you're just used to the 'particular characteristics' of your Cafe Sport. Even with your stock Ohlins kit, the handling of a V11 requires some ....ahem..... planning ahead? The motojournos are saying that the Griso performs more like bikes they're all used to riding. Should be a little more neutral feeling than your V11. Go give it another, perhaps longer try. Can't wait to give it a go. Should be in the 'states by winter '08

Ralph, You're welcome to come up the 'pike' for a ride on my ST for as long as you'd like. I also have two very close friends with Cali's and I might be able to arrange a group ride so you could try those out too.............that might be a little more difficult, though. I'm off to ride the BRP for the week of the 17th, but after that, I'm around........let me know.

That's what I did. I think you'll find the Cali puts too much weight on your backside, making real long stints a little difficult. Add that to how much real fun you can have on a tonti 2-up (uh,oh...I hear Todd Eagan stalking me! ) and you might have to consider another marquee. My wife now refuses to get on the Guzzi and I can't blame her. The Honda has the only downside of being very heavy, making slow manuevering a little touchy. But try one if you haven't yet. Hauls the kitchen sink and you'll be scraping hard parts inside of 15 minutes of riding it. Super fast and comfortable too. Of course, bulletproof........... If I want drama, I figure I've always got my Guzzi..........

HA!! Only Good 'ol USA SCURA on the board??? No matter, it's the BEST one!

Go for it. Probably the best handling cool toy out there.......... They share some exotic nature, but they're different enough to lust for one and not feel like you're cheating on the MG. I considered one, and the Ulysses looks great. Too close to the use I put my Scura to make it for me, but YMM CERTAINLY can V !! Does this mean you're trading in the V11?? Oh, well, then scratch all that previous................... heh.

Ooooooh, them's some nice lookin' boys.......... They look like Guzzi riders

All of your questions are answered in the forum. Just keep reading the archives. Do searches on specific questions......I believe the BMW/MG debate was gone thru at least 10-15 times Good luck.

I'm with KB on this. Guzzi is still a small manufacturer of exotic bikes, without the quality control anyone could possibly expect from the likes of a Honda or Suzuki. If you've ever owned a MG or a triumph sportscar, you know what I'm talking about. You just have to expect a different level of commitment from an Guzzi than if you went out and bought a Yamaha. Anything less is just unreasonable and silly. that said, they're pretty well sorted out of the box as is. The issues with them are (mostly) simple fixes and board such as this one make them easier still. If you're not afflicted by the waxpaper valve guides or exploding gearboxes ( and most experiences are that most are not), the other known issues are small in comparison. Even if you spent 3 times as much on your bike, you can't really expect more. Shall I tell you the insane number of issues with Rolls-Royces? You wouldn't believe...........