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Because I was getting brain ache trying to understand the posts here, I took the trouble to go down four flights of stairs at nearly one o'clock in the morning, pull the cover off the V11 and take a photo, go back up four flights of stairs, and take a photo of the original Bitubo damper from my V11 Le Mans. I reckon it is easier to see what Phil is getting at from the photos. You WILL ALL be VERY GRATEFUL for these pictures, I am sure... So here we go: This picture shows the mounting tab on the frame on the left, no ball joint, and the mount on the triple clamp on the right, obviously a ball joint. the next picture shows the original Bitubo damper from the Le Mans, currently lying aroung on my "desk" close to the computer. Obviously a ball joint on the end of the damper shaft, and no ball joint on the clamp around the body of the damper. The bolt in the ball joint on the end of the shaft goes through the tab on the frame in the first photo. The bolt in the clamp around the body of the damper goes through the ball joint in the mounting on the triple clamp in the first photo. That is how Guzzi built it, and that is, as far as I understand it, what Phil is getting at. When my Hyperpro gets here, that is how it will be mounted. I hope I don't have to get anything fabricated to do that, because the Hyperpro was expensive enough without any additional fiddle-faddle.

Yes, I've read about them, that they are quite good, and seen photos. I'm fairly sure I've never seen one in real life, neither in Australia nor here in Germany.

That's interesting. I think the sound in that video is really that which is to be seen in the pictures. Not bad.

No, mate. That is not a common hammer. That is a precision adjustment tool for specific British motorcycle models. Well, all of them, actually.

Nothing to do with bikes, but.. Up until a couple of years I was free lance as a sound engineer. Lots of jobs, particularyl corporate events, involved a stage set being built specifically for the event, mostly out of screwed together chipboard. And then there are trade fairs. The stands at those are a combination of modular wall elements and cut to fit and screwed on chipboard. The last couple of years I have been employed in an opera house, and had some time in a couple of theatres before that. The sets in a modern theatre are very often screwed down to the stage floor. They buy the screws by the kilogramme, I think. The all use Torx. Why? Because you don't have to concentrate as much when using a battery drill to screw them in and out as you do with a Phillips, or even a Posidrive. The Torx head is less inclined to spit the bit out. Transfer that to a motorcycle: as you say, the look good, and the assembly line worker is more likely to get them in without trashing the screw head.

Yes. I've got that problem with my Breva 750. Firstly, almost anything you put on a motor vehicle needs to have an ABE. That means "Allgemeine Betriebserlaubnis", something like "General permission to use the part". I'd very much like to put some clip-on bars on it, because I prefer a slightly "forwards" riding position. The original bars (and mine are bent, I reckon...) dictate a very upright riding position, which I don't like at all. So, the immediate succesor to the Breva was the new V7 range. The frame is to all intents and purposes identical. Motor is the same except for a newer fuel injection system. There are bits around the triple clamps that have the same part number for both bikes. A clip-on that would fit the V7 would, with about 99.99% certainty, also fit the Breva. But the Breva was an "entry level" bike, and the V7 was a "modern retro". So there was no market for clip-ons for the Breva, so there are no certificates which include the Breva. Only the V7. The icing on the cake: these are an original Guzzi part. First introduced on the V7 Racer model in about 2019, and still available as an accessory (for rather a lot of money...). They are pretty much exactly what I want, and would almost cerainly fit well. But they are an homologated part for the later model, and therefore don't specifically have the appropriate certificate such that they can be bolted on to a different bike. I haven't given up on them yet, but I need to find an "Inspection engineer" who is willing to switch his brain on and go the extra ten yards. There must be a way, but you have to find the person with the official accreditation who is willing to go to the trouble of making it possible. EDIT: the bureaucracy does have a reason. Ok, part of it is just Germans being German, but large part of it is because there are roads here where it is legal to go as fast as the vehicle can manage. So there are good reasons for making sure that some idiot doesn't put something on his vehicle that is going to cause an accident as soon as he gives it a bit of berries. But it can be a real pain in the arse...

Yes, there is definitely something in that thought.

According to this "compilation" of manuals, that should be the ECU fuse. https://guzzitek.org/gb/ma_us_uk/1100/V11_1999-2003_Atelier(Compil-GB-D-NL).pdf Page 392 and/or 457.

Just ordered a Hyperpro directly from the manufacturer in Holland. Now we'll wait and see if it arrives, and how long it takes. PS: their site is very clunky. Searching for the Bike Model didn't work. I found the damper by going to the shop, opening "products-steering dampers" and looking for the right one. The listing is something like 496 articles, 9 to a page, 57 pages. The mounting kits are listed before the dampers, in alphabetical order of the bike manufacturer's name. The mounting kit for the V11 Sport (that's all they have, no Le Mans, Ballabio, whatever....) is on about page 32. The damper is on page 56.

Definitely. It never hurts to have a closer look, but that cable with the faulty insulation is the no. 1 suspect without any competition. If you can see that the split in the insulation was lying such that a contact with the frame, or engine parts, or anything that is ultimately connected to the negative pole of the battery, then you don't really need to look any further. Case closed, but have a look at the rest of the wiring just to be sure. The only thing a battery has to do with a blown fuse is supplying the electrical potential energy (Volts...) that cause a current to flow through a short circuit and overload the fuse. Supplying the volts is what the battery is there for. The actual fault is in the wiring somewhere.

It painted a vivid picture...

Ok, no worries. I'll have a look. I reckon that's too long. I think I read something about 75 mm somewhere. As it happens, I have the leaky Bitubo from mine here in front of me, and measuring the free length of the shaft would seem to confirm that.

Hadn't heard of her before, but she's good.

@ChrisPDX that's your bike that is being discussed in this topic, isn't it? @Lucky Phil You don't happen to have a part number for the appropriate Öhlins damper, do you?

Yes, regularly. Lots of bikes for sale, but not many looking for one. That is exactly what I meant. The people here already have a V11. But, good place to start because maybe someone will get inspired, or knows someone who knows someone, who knows that the bloke who takes his grandma's dog out for walkies has a cousin who is looking for something a bit out of the ordinary.

And old-style Verlicchi bars, if I'm not mistaken. This sort of thing:

Yes. That probably does back to the post-production people. "Carry on as usual", so to say. Motorcyle sounds are always dubbed in in films. I don't know how many times I've seen a 2-stroke chook chaser doing the stunt riding in a film, and heard a multi-cylinder sport bike. Or a big V-Twin that sounded like a 4-cylinder. The list goes on. I think the pinnacle was some '70s american police film. One sees police-spec Harley's engaging in the chase. After a bit, it gets exciting, and there is footage of motorcycles riding down stairways and such. Suddenly, we are seeing chook chasers with fake panniers and bad recreations of the Harley police-spec fairing. And then they are suddenly on Harleys again. I'm not that sure anymore about the sound, but I think it was "Japanese 4-Cylinder".

No, I came here in January 1996. Still, I reckon I have heard of them. Not exactly my kind of music, though. Not enough guitars.

Got it. This article, found by searching for "electric motorcycle Los Angeles olympic handover film", named it (EDIT: be warned, the article is pretty much a waste of data storage space. Don't feel obliged to read it all... ) https://www.autoevolution.com/news/this-is-how-tom-cruise-pulled-off-the-ultimate-stunt-at-the-2024-olympic-games-238299.html This is it https://www.livewire.com/de-de/s2-del-mar-electric-motorcycle EDIT: Thinking about it, what else could they use? Electric because "Olympics". For the sake of their image, they haven't a choice but electric. Live Wire (Harley) because the next games are in the USA. In Los Angeles, i.e. California, which brings aus back to "electric" again, doesn't it?

I reckon you're probably right about the bike actually making the sounds one hears in the video. The only bike sound in the video that I am prepared to believe is actually coming from the bike in the picture is at 1:08, and that sounds like an electric bike to me. I'm convinced the rest is dubbed in.

I can relate to that.

Yes, I reckon it is really the man himself on the bike. I can't identify the bike, but I reckon it is probably electric. Don't be fooled by the sound-track. That is the easiest thing in the world to fake.

Do you know of this site? https://guzzitek.org/ It's a bit "unique" to navigate, but you can find things like this there. https://guzzitek.org/gb/ma_us_uk/1100/V11_1999-2003_Atelier(Compil-GB-D-NL).pdf