Yep thanks Roy looked at those several times in the past but as my speedo still works and just a bit wobbly in these days of electronic warfare with the cops.Mounted the sigma which is water proof and has some good functions and has worked a treat.Not that us Guzzi riders are tight wads but for $90 NZ dollars delivered im very happy with it and would recomend it for anyone wanting a cheap accurate speedo,Cheers