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So now that you've properly adjusted the TBs, etc. and the map is off... dump the map! Yeah, I know: it's hard to dump a custom map you paid good money for, improperly done or not, but which is more important: chasing some chimera of a means to adjust the f!cked up map, or having a Guzzi that runs right? Try substituting a generic V11 PCIII map [tons of'em over at Guzzitech, iirc] for a bike w/ the same farkles as yours, & see if that improves your situation. If not, you can always revert to the messed up custom map...

Uh, yeah: that explains it! No observational points for me!

I had the opportunity to ask Erik exactly this question, and that was exactly the reason he gave: "It's too big & heavy. Harley asked me to use it & I said No." He was kind of abrupt after that, I think he'd been asked that question so many times by people before me that he was getting burnt out on it. I'd like to compare the dry wt of the VR motor with that of the new Helicon mill & see just how the chips fall; I suspect that the Helicon will be a good 20 pounds or so lighter, and when pounds = ponies, that's a lot. On a sport bike pushing 7:1 pwr/wt ratios, that's like 3 free ponies! Probably why the VMax mill never made it into a sportbike either... Looking forward to the day H-D buys a clue & plunks the VR motor into a Road King chassis for a serious transcontinental express: the phrase "beefy" comes to mind! But at least it would finally be able to get out of its own way... Ride on!

Things can be done, I'm sure, but the new Griso & Breva 3-shaft 6spd trannies are different from the 4-shaft 6spd on a V11. I don't know how everything turns out, whether the 3-shaft is longer or shorter than the 4, whether or not output is the same distance from mounting points, etc. I think you'll be in the land of "suck it and see" to put that on your Daytona, but I believe part of the reason the 4-shaft layout was abandoned was to make a 6spd tranny that wouldn't require as many changes to existing models to update them, so you may even be better off than with a V11 6spd, I don't know... Good luck!

Do all Vincents have a divot out of the left side of the tank like that, or is this one special? I never noticed that before if they're all like that...

Ouch! I hope he's gonna survive. We only have the occasional run-in w/ deer here in SoCal, & few enough of those, not like back East where the woodrats are thick on the ground & attracted to highways...

Whereupon it's discovered that the MGS01 doesn't get any of the "ridiculously lean at high temps" problem seen in the bikes required to meet emissions specs... at least, that's how I interpret the negative numbers seen for the 89C & up temps. Someone correct me if I'm reading that wrong? Either way, it's kind of ridiculous that the map keeps decreasing fuel once the motor is up to temp: shouldn't this be an asymptotic progression, with the correction tending to zero [a la the MGS map] once the temp is up to some empirical "ideal"? Of course, this is only one trim table interacting w/ the base map; the other trims interacting simultaneously may negate that concern. Neverrr miiiiind...

Well, having more gears means you've got a wider variety of options for maintaining a comfortable cruise rpm, AFAIC. And on the Guzzi, iirc, the 5th is a mild overdrive and the 6th an even higher overdrive, so they really end up just being used for the long, straight, boring bits...

Well, it looks like buggered-up Phillips, but I detect the remnants of the extra "teeth" in the bottom of the hole. It's not a tamper-proof head, but it does take a special toolhead; I forget what they're called, but they look like Phillips cut on too steep an angle [75deg included angle instead of 90deg] with little pointy indents at the end of the end of the normal Phillips' "teeth." Like I said, I forget what they're called. Only time I recall seeing them was on a Ford of some sort. Take a left-hand drill bit in a reversible drill, and drill it out. If the left-hand drill doesn't take it out itself, then use an EZ-out. Toss that stooopid thing as far away as you can, & replace it w/ a proper Allen-head bolt. Phillips head screws are fine for 1930s technology, but we're living in the new millenium, and owe it to ourselves to use proper fittings, like Allen-head screws, that don't bugger-up when you look at them cross-eyed like Phillips screws and that fool thing you've got stuck on your bar. FWIW, it was probably used by mistake, thinking it was a regular Phi'ps... typically, those things are only used by themselves, so you only have to have the one tool (& you know that going in!)

What did they do to that V-Rod to lower the stock output so much? When my (now deceased) friend was testing the EFI for H-D back in the day, they were getting 120 ponies out of the stock mill! Someone will pay for this!

Simpler is better! Bernoulli never sleeps, but an EFI bike w/ a dead battery is... dead. In an ideal world, a carbed Guzzi would run a magneto, so that even if it had a dead battery, it could be bump started [flashback to push-starting my old VW Beetle w/ a near-dead battery after leaving the lights on while parked! ] for the ultimate in stone-axe reliability!

Don't buy the Stucchi, it's a high-priced knockoff of the Red Racing bikini fairing. Got one for my SV several years ago [but have near gotten that round tuit thingummy to mount it... ] They started off making them for Monsters and I got mine in 2000, so I haven't any current info on them. See what you can find before you go w/ the Stucchi...

Too bad; the factory relays are on the ragged edge of their capacity in a Guzzi; you'd be better off w/ the relays offered by PyroDan, or even better w/ the super-quality ones Ryland offers. [i keep meaning to set aside the funds to buy at least 2 of his, but I'd already upgraded all 5 to PyroDan's units, so there's less motivation to go that extra mile.] Either way, it would have cost you less than you paid for the pair of stock replacements [but of course you would have had to wait for shipping...] The stock relays on the V11 [as has been discussed here & over at Guzzitech forums] will fail, it's just a question of when. Usually it happens when you're at your weakest, far from civilization, with the buzzards circling. Do yourself a favor, and upgrade at least 2 of your relays to their superior replacements (if not all of them) and throw the (good) stockers in a drawer for backups/use in other projects [like making a dedicated headlight circuit.]

Yep, because the 4-shaft 6 speed has the output shaft lower & to the right of where it is on the 5-spd. It requires a longer shaft than a 5 spd too, iirc. But I don't think having to live w/ the 5-spd slowed Todd down much...

I think the factory got a Harley TPS in there by mistake when they were making the map... I think it comes down to this: The factory map is messed up. We can fudge certain aspects of it by our own adjustments to the TPS, etc., or we can go whole hog & make a new map [whether via VSDSTITTTIES, TuneBoyeeee, or PCIII&1/2ussr or what have you.] Making a whole new map enables us to bypass the flaws in certain areas; fudging the stock map is inevitably a choice between various tradeoffs. For those living in cold climates or suffering from poor mileage, eliminating the cold-engine overrich condition may be more important than the excessive leanness on hot days. For those of us fortunate to be living in climates where it rarely, if ever, gets cold enough to worry about the cold-motor symptoms, we'll definitely choose to trade that off for more fuel at high temps for better power and responsiveness. In the mean time, we all get to kvetch to each other about what tradeoffs we prefer on this magnificent forum. Thanks Jaap!

You said it: the cheap Chinese scooter my friend gave me 'cause the front brake was either on or off [& therefore dangerous] is proof of that! Fixed the brake [the stoopid "ABS" (intentional air bubble in the brake line) had the piston in the wrong way], and hey presto: lousy feel, but it can still lock the brake controllably. Well, that is: with the fake "ABS" fixed, it was mush all the way to the handlebar, w/ some slight slowing. W/ the phony "ABS" module removed from the caliper & chucked into the scrap metal bin, it had lousy feel w/ the ability to lock the front tire before bottoming the lever against the handlebar...

It was pretty good, but he has the same speech impediment [to a much lesser degree] than the physics prof who basically chased me out of the laser technology program at the community college I attended 25 years ago. Therefore, he's wrong! No, seriously, it's a great video, and I feel happy for the kids who have him as their science teacher. Most of my own problems w/ the global warming theorists is that A) At one time, all the C02 being released by the fossil fuels we're burning was in the environment already. If burning just one more gallon of gas brings the dinosaurs back, I'm for it! B] Running around screaming "The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Do something, ANYTHING!" is likely to lead to bigger screw ups than calmly sitting down and saying "what can we do that will have some positive effect w/o crippling ourselves in the process?.. AND THEN DOING IT.

I know what you mean. I used to spend almost as much time there as here until they FUBAR'd the user interface: they were much better when they had the same simple graphic front end as WildGuzzi still retains... more meat, less bling is always my preference!

Retread! We've seen these before... in 2007? It was definitely a while ago; well worth watching again!

Good heavens no! I don't mind the "phat" headers; the rest of the plumbing is tucked away underneath & wouldn't be an issue. But that travesty of a muffler would be the 1st thing I would have tossed! [in all actuality, I probably would have tried to sell it on eBay; when that was an abject failure, the next step would have been to take it out to the desert for use as a target! ] No, the only appeal of that auction was the headers; from the secondary back to the dual cans [i [i]like[/i] the look of the stock mufflers, they're just too dang heavy!] would have required fabrication, but the heavy lifting would have been done. Anyway, it's all just a fantasy anyway. I love the look of the stock pipes too, the only real problem with them is the difficulty of making a good collector in the limited space under the tranny with how far apart the respective headers are. The Stucchi is the best of the bunch, but even that is handicapped by the monumental task posed by smoothly merging & splitting exhaust streams that start almost a foot apart & end up separated by a similar distance, all in the space of about 18 inches. [sorry, not doing the metric conversion this time of night. ]

Yep, on the outside [double wall construction]; they're about the same internal diameter [or else the Griso would make much less power than a V11 [kinda like the Harleys do that run fat single-wall pipes... ]]

Just wondered if I lost out to another v11LM'er! Here's the link: Ebay Griso exhaust No regrets, I don't really have the $$$ to justify the expense, but the chance to pick up the nifty Griso 2->1 headers for something w/ factory build quality to cobble up an Enzo-style "Cobra" exhaust was sorely tempting! But now I'm wondering if the winner was of like mind or just some poor bloke riding a bent&binged Griso... Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Heck, I'm interested & I don't even have a MYxx ecu! Looking forward to checking out the spreadsheet just to see how you worked this magic [i don't really use Excel much, but my coworkers who use it even less think I'm a wizard! Hahahahahaha! Anyway, your description has piqued my curiosity...]

Are you certain you copied that correctly? I suspect that it's more likely Open 52deg BBDC Closes 24deg ATDC for the exhaust. Talk about overlap! 24deg ATDC; no wonder the v11 doesn't start to perk until after 5k rpm! Forgot all the other go fast bits: these things need VVT to recover their bottom end... Ah, heck: who am I kidding? Lugging it is bad for your motor anyway...

I've heard it said that "the only proper colours for a motorcycle are black & chrome," but I'm right with you on the Tenni; my black LeMans was just a consolation prize because I'd missed out on a smokin' deal on a Tenni the year before... still kicking myself on that one! Sure wish there was a definite colour match on the Tenni green paint; I imagine lots of owners would prefer to make the dorky "eye spots" (aka "number plates") disappear [those being the only point where Guzzi dropped the ball on the Tenni's styling...]