21,400 bikes JUST to break even. worldwide you wouldn't think that as a daunting task but look at Guzzi what were they selling 10k a year? and they don't have that kind of debt over thier heads (oh they have debt but not that high right?) I suppose if you can really appeal to the masses I swear Honda alone sells 25,000 bikes a year in MN alone maybe not really but they and harley sell a shizit load.