THAT v4 IS FREAKING HOT, I'm saying I likes it. A lot. but like Paul said its far beyond my price range, far far beyond like the price of 4 bikes. Aprilia is making thier cube soon, I hear 2009 pr was it 2008? So Aprilia will be right on Duc's heels but the Ducs will obviously sell better. Personally I like the grunt and pureness of a VeeTwin. Are the 999 desmo's easy enough to work on or is a work in futility? I just finished the valve adjustments and head retorq, it took 3 hours but next time will take 30min it was super easy.