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I don't know about "conventional wisdom," more just some of my hard knocks I'm trying to pass along. So much "RLSP/Heavy" clings to to inside, it is hard to judge "full" versus "overfilled." I have been guilty of overfilling. Seems the "connector shaft" on the MGCycle replacement part is less desirable than the OEM shaft. And that metal disc on the lower angle drive should always be epoxied into place.

JBBenson, I noticed the RedLine ShockProof Heavyweight in your images. I have found that product does not ventilate well in the V11 gearbox or reardrive. I switched to RLSP "Lightweight." The Heavy is too easy to overfill, IMO. Also check your gearbox vent to be certain it is clear and functional. I'm thninking the gearoil should not be forcing itself into the speedometer drive . . . [The vent center image, not the red circled Main Electrical Ground (that's important, too!)]:

Oh, easy: that metal disc (along with the nylon worm gear and it's shaft) spits out onto the road spontaneously without permission. I learned to epoxy (JB Weld) that metal disc into the angle drive. To remove it, the tiny, weak stakings in the plastic housing can be relieved with a Dremel bur, or the epoxy relieved the same way. Always epoxy that metal disc into the angle drive, folks!

So, it is the "connector shaft"/ "stud" that failed. It is a separate piece supplied with the replacement angle drive? Simple enough to use the factory connector shaft/stud with the MGCycle replacement angle drive.

My wear patterns and the prior images support that the thrust washer is (> should be YMMV! As guzzimeister says, that washer is in there, so don't let it slip away! [EDIT: Note that there as second thrust washer below the "Spindle/pinion drive" inside the gearbox NOT PICTURED HERE.] Dear me, and I thought the V11 sidestand was a Rube Goldberg apparatus!

The images I see in that Speedhut Installation thread indicate the thrust washer is on top of the spindle drive and would pull out with it, unless it sticks to the screw-in housing and falls off removing that. First image in post #26, above, is how my drive unit came out, the thrust washer stuck to the bottom of the "screw-in housing." The second image is from moto fugazzi (post#75 in Kiwi_Roy's "Installing SpeedHut gauges" thread) showing the thrust washer on the spindle drive shaft above the drive gear:

Here's my post on capping off the former gearbox speedometer cable drive; https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19038&p=220700 In the "How To . . ." thread Installing Speedhut gauges. I'm still trying to understand the thrust washer location . . .

I just want to be certain JBBenson considers all of the viable options when a Veglia plays up . . . .

Okay, I see the thrust washer is under the screw-in housing and on top of the drive gear on the drive spindle/pinion:

If guzzimeister did not post the warning about the thrust washer, I would never have known where it came from and how it got on the shop floor. It would have just got thrown in the spare washer jug with a shrug . I'm sure it slipped off the shaft in my haste to get images posted for JBBenson. I'll check my "Installing Speedhut gauges" thread posts and make sure that the washer warning is there . . . Thanks, "Guzz!"

Dear me . . . There's the little bugger! I'm so looking forward to be able to sleep again.

P'shaw! You can grow a new toenail. Tell us the sidestand is okay . . . .

Further on in the face design process, I decided to keep the "Speedhut made in USA" to give credit where credit is due. I did have them apply it in grey.

Love my Speedhuts! Had them on about 7,000 miles/ 11.300 km. They were not easy to spec or install, but I probably went overboard on all that. I just could not go for a fourth Veglia speedo (or third tach). These Speedhut are so brilliantly visible and (so far) reliable. I can't see the thrust washer in the blue cream ShockProof, and nothing comes out with a magnet, so perhaps it's sitting snuggly in the bottom of the gearbox . . .

Aww, man! Apply adequate quantities of imperial Stout. Repeat until toenail grows back (takes months!)

It’s a wide sump 1100-i? How about installing a V11 stand?

If you range up into Tennessee, maybe a meetup? Check out Monteagle. North Georgia roads are great!

Martin, When setting the TPS, the right side stop screw must be completely backed out. many of us simply leave it that way and only use the left stop screw for idle RPM setting. Also, the high idle cam must be released underneath the right throttle body to allow the right throttle plte tp cose fully before setting the TPS baseline. See image #2 in Decent Tune-up .

Guzz is correct about the thrust washer. I had entirely forgotten about this when installing the GPS Speedhut. It is not on my "spindle"/ "pinion". It is not in the photos, therefor must be in my gearbox (somewhere). [edit: it was dropped on the shop floor, taking the old parts out to get pictures.] @JBBenson, seems you would be fine to leave the gearbox parts in place and simply remove the angle drive and be rideable?

Properly seated, the short "driving shaft" sits fully into the "pinion" from the gearbox (spinning through the "housing" on the left):

If you're on the road hoping to make it home, pull the torn "driving shaft" out of the locked angle drive and reassemble. No cable drive, but get home.

So, the torn off tip has to be trapped in the spindle drive/ pinion from the gearbox. Pretty sure it can't fall into the works (?) Here are the parts: [per guzzimeister: missing is the thrust washer.]

Full lower square tip on the connector shaft:

Seems the tip of your "driving shaft" twisted off. It will be trapped in the mechanism that turns the shaft out of the gearbox. Stand by: trying to get images posted . . .

I think that is their generous replacement offering after the Guzzi part went NLA.