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It never occurred to me to snug up the bolts visible when the sump is off. I'll have to put that on my list of things to do . . .

Some say Redline in the bevel drive smooths the shifts. Maybe that would help your whine.

This one broke in the first coil. I checked it really closely in the upshift and found that the coils slide and twist outward on the boss. This boss had a little groove worn into it and I don't imagine the (flimsy) little spring liked being bent sideways. Unfortunately I didn't have the insight at the time to look at the spring in downshift. As has been noted, that's when the coils tighten the most.

So with my 15 mm boss, what broke my spring?

Was the 1999/2000 V11 Sport the first to have a vent?

It may be for ease of assembly versus any real adjustment. The pawl and gear assembly would be easy to put together with the limiting post rotated away from the pawl.

I'm just so glad to be on the road again. Frankly, the guys that I was riding with were a bit aghast that I would think I could diagnose the fault. But, with this forum I knew exactly what had happened. Five days later I am riding again! $10US with shipping. Too many BMW riders would have to add towing and shop labor! Thanks again to all of you who regularly help keep my Sport on the tarmac!

While the Sport has 54,000 miles, this gearbox was replaced new and complete under the y2k 3 year warranty. It has 27,500 miles on it. The side cover casting has the date: 9 01. I put the box together last night (Greg had the spring to me in four days counting Christmas! I told you guys he was really Santa! ) I'm waiting a couple more hours for the sealant to dry and the Redline to warm up. I wish now I had taken time to smooth up the ramps on the pawl arm. I read that too late. I did smooth up the boss and the sharp edge where the spring hooks over. Thanks for all the feedback.

Brake light shouldn't affect the turn signals. Low battery voltage would slow the signals at a stop. Check the voltage with a digital voltmeter. Let us know what you find . . .

The post is an apparent stop that presses the pawl firmly to the to toothed gear as the shift is made, either up or down. It is an eccentric as you can see in the photo of Post#1. You can also see lobes on the back of the pawl for both the up and downshifts. The travel and return of the pawl are not controlled by this spring and stop, but by the symmetrical spring and the eccentric adjustment covered by the acorn nut. Apparently the spring which breaks applies tension to the pawl as it begins to roll the toothed gear shifting either up or down and the stop provides direct pressure to the back of the pawl as the toothed gear comes into engagement. It certainly doesn't look like this could be contributing to spring failures. It is not mentioned in the shop manual and I wouldn't know if there have been service bulletins since. The boss for my spring does measure 15mm, but is gualed where the spring has been binding. I'll clean that up with some wet-dry paper on reassembly when th spring arrives (maybe this week!).

OK, I see it now. The adjustment maintains contact of the pawl in the upshift where there is no play at all between the pawl and the stop.

Right. That would be the eccentric whose adjustment is under the acorn nut and adjustable from outside. It is on the left of this photo: The other (hidden) eccentric is visible on the right of the photo, middle of the plate. It is nutted on the outside and adjustable from the inside by a screw slot. It appears to limit the lift of the pawl off of the shifting plate.

I knew the throw of the pawl is adjustable under the acorn nut. But, with the side cover off I see there is an eccentric that, apparently, limits to travel of the pawl away from the shift assembly. Mine has a gap of 0.039" . MAybe less would take some strain off the springs that break??

Having limped the V11 home in second I felt happy to have reached Santa Claus (Greg Field) in the North Pole (MI in Seattle). While sitting on Santa's knee (calling 1-800 with my Mastercard in hand), I asked for what I really, really want for Christmas: Sugar Plums (a pawl spring for my six-speed). I've been a really, really good boy (er, shuure I have ) and I hope Santa (Greg) will send the elves (USPS) with my sugar plum (spring). To all of you: a Merry Christmas and Glorious New Year!!

Lovely ride today in the lead of 5 other bikes and the Sport stuck in second. Until I managed to downshift it into first. Once. I'll bet they noticed the pace changed up a little. Upon stopping at a safe place to split up I leaned over to look at the shifter and my left leg zipper on the Aerostich popped open to the calf. Great! A Wardrobe Failure on top of it all. I had to lie down on the pavement to coax the zipper back up. Cars stopped, cameras came out, but not an offer to help with my zipper. I bet they would have helped Janet Jackson with her Wardrobe Failure. That's what I get for riding with a macho crowd whose motto is, "If you can't pull up your own zipper, we're splitting up your gear." Finally back in second I had a nice solo ride home to get the side case off and order the spring. For those of you who claim to have done this on the roadside, you have my admiration. But you'll still have to pull up your own zipper . . .

For sure I think my charging output is closer to 13.5. I did discharge the battery 3 minutes with the lights on, then 1.5 amps for about 2 hours. This morning it was showing a full 12.8 before the pawl spring broke. Too much voltage?

Weird. My Odyssey in the V11 and the new Optima 34/78 in the Jeep both want to show 12.61. I think they should throw a resounding 12.84. What gives?

VA Sean, how could I have missed the *original* post? To think we'll soon celebrate this thread's two-year anniversary (a record among the vacuous world of veiled forum vapours. I count us fortunate not to have suffered either 'chiropractic' nor 'veterinary' hooters. Don't let this give you hooligans any ideas! So far this has been a good, er, fun thread with only a mild transgression or two. What's missing may be the 'Hooters with a bike in the background' theme . . .

True. Ugly like a Rottweiler, though. Purposeful, I think, for the task. Every time they try to make these bikes look pretty it's like putting make-up on the Rottweiler. It looks silly and pi$$e$ off the dog.

I'm not sure we should trust that everything that came dry on our Guzzi ought to be left dry . . . I wouldn't lube the fiber ring if I had to do it again. Of course with the moly I used, the ring will be forever slipperier even after I wipe it down to be sure there is no viscous friction or grit-trapping effects.

Sure but now there is the F800 Gs . . . http://www.motorcycledaily.com/23november0...w2008f800gs.htm I would keep my jealous motorcycle-V11-like-an-Italian-woman who might stab you for no reason, but would want this Bavarian tool-of-a-bike.

Funny really, all of it. I grew up on Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin. Just turned fifty. My Very First Concert, 1977, friends assured me, "Led Zeppelin will never play in Tampa (Florida) again." I've never seen such a crowd spectacle before or since. Hours of anticipation, aclimitization , and astromicizizism ( hey, it was 1977). Two songs into the performance the BIGGEST MEANEST THUNDERSTORM ever to settle over Tampa Stadium sent the Wired of the Stage scurrying for their RV's. 70,000 of us ( who'd just finished everything we'd brought ** to the concert) attempted to leave at once. Contrary to Brazilian soccer events, no one was killed in the fracas; although I feared for my life seeing my gf torn from the grasp of our blanket in the frenzied exit. What I remember most is the pre-event mass papercup wars; the blanket tosses in the surreal mass below; the entire football field turning to a patchwork quilt when the torrential rain came down; the electrical storm dancing its spectacular energy into the rods along the upper perimeter of the stadium . . . No shit . . . never again! Tangerine Dream . . .

Before you spike the voltage with a jump-start, what is the voltage on your new battery? (Turn the headlamp on for three minutes then off for five and check voltage). Also, what type of relays did you replace with?

I'm only a little less baffled now. True, the ring appears to be a, say, fiber washer or 'fibre' gasket of sorts. Yet, there is no doubt friction as evidenced by the wear pattern etched in the "Plate With Gearing" (Shop Manual F10). I did put a coat of moly on mine this last assembly. If you fail to do this you will miss out on the thousands of miles of black mess flung on your wheel and the precious concern of your riding companions. I've so earnestly reassured them that, "A Guzzi with no grease on the wheel is a Guzzi with no grease." ( I always say "greeze" just to squirrel the absurdity. The whole cush drive concept (there is the one in the rear drive and the one in the gearbox) may smack of its own absurdity as we attempt to 'cush' the power-to-weight ratio of a P51 mustang. Big bore Guzzis are about as cushy as a 7.62 NATO rifle.