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I'd stick to checking that adjuster under the acorn is adjusted correctly, that the shift lever is adjusted correctly, that the accessible bolts are tight, and that the Yak fat was replaced. Test ride it, and recommend he switch to Redline Shockproof heavy after the next rainy season. Oh, and maybe bleed the clutch for him. If there are any signs of the gearbox being removed, it might be in the counter sunk bolts that hold on the clutch cylinder.

That filter should be a regular service item. Probably with the first and every other fuel filter change....like the fuel hoses...

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OK, I finally did it. Although the Innovation was last on my list, I found one with the RPM kit second hand on eBay for a good price. Now I just need to find where on the exhaust is the ideal temperature (hot but below 900F) get the bung plugs milled to fit the pipes, get them welded on.

Thanks, That would be a very inexpensive solution with hours of logging. The only limitation that I would miss would be the lack of RPM and TPS logging.

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Thanks!....I'll keep an eye out for it. I just lost out on a 2A0... too slow to snipe.

A guzzi in a dyno booth is a beautiful sound! 3 hours on the dyno! I suspect they did more than just use the tuning link to flatten the indicated lambda. They must have been tuning for power and or rideability.

Agreed. With tuning link, one can assume the resultant PCIII map is basically EGA data (while not as complete as multi-gas) If the tuning link targets an A:F ratio of 13.2:1 that is what you will in theory get out of the exhaust. So, you can kind of infer that if the PCIII map goes rich, it was previously indicated as being too lean, and that it is now 13.2:1 or whatever the target was set to. What amazes me, is that so many PCIII maps would work so well when simply downloaded to match the modifications. Doug Lofgrens test of the two similar Ducatis having different fuel optimizations, makes me have doubts. My one experience with the Tuning Link producing a map that pings, makes me have doubts. Derek's proof that Oxygen levels have an undependable relationship with optimization, makes me have doubts. People who have improved on Creedon chips by custom mapping a PCIII, makes me have doubts. The recommendation by so many people to get a custom map, makes me have doubts. My impression that my currrent PCIII map seems to work better when I lean it out in a few places, makes me have doubts. I kind of suspect that the hundreds of people turned away, were probably told that there would be little improvement in power from the $200-$300 tuning-link job. That I would believe, but I think the only way to prove that there would be little improvement is to run the dyno through the map positions analyzing the exhaust gas and the power...in which case they might as well re-map it...

While I appreciate textiles for their lightness and water resistance, there are a few things I don't like about them. 1) that claim of being more abrasion resistant than leather. I don't think so, but I am sure kevlar will hold up better than fashion leather. 2) the claim Nylon holds up for years while leather weakens. I don't think so. My five year old nylon jacket is showing signs that it won't hold up as well in a crash while my 15+ year old leather jacket looks new except for where I leaned up against a wall of foamy graphetti remover. 3) My buddy threw his kevlar one piece in the wash and it was abrasive against itself, tearing holes in it. So, I would recommend hand cleaning kevlar with detergent, brush and a hose, despite the claim that it is machine washable. I really want one of Cycleport's airmesh kevlar jackets. I don't think anything comes close for abrasion resistance in mesh textile. http://www.motoport.com/ PS as far as I know they are in Escondido not neighboring Carlsbad...but they may have moved or have more than one location...after all they have more than one name. I guess they just can't get the domain cycleport.com and note it is port not sport...

I think their is a big difference between best and favorite. My best list might read something like: track2006MotoGP Yamaha M1 touring2006Honda Goldwing sporttouring2006GuzziNorge Cruiser2006GuzziVintage MotoCross 2006helll I don't know Sport 2006Triumph 675 SuperMoto2006 some KTM thang Trials bike 2006 Beats me Dual Purpose 2006 huh? Retro 2006 Ducati Paul Smart Antique 1923 technncal marvel etc. While a favorites list might include Guzzi Daytona Guzzi V7Sport Guzzi 84LeMans BMW R90S Norton Commando Laverda Jota Honda SL125 76 Honda Goldwing without fairing HD Vincent Black something or other HD XR750 Ducati Mike Hailwood Replica Ducati999 etc. One could also do a list for most influential, that could draw a more heated argument than global warming. To that list I'd put Harley Panhead, BMW R60 BMW R100RT ecycle Triumph Bonneville Honda CB 750 Laverda Jota Kawasaki Ninja Honda Goldwing Yamaha YZ125 or whatever motocross bike first had a mono-shock etc. But I don't know jack about motorcycle history, so I'll be most of you can put together better lists.

Yes, and the engine behaves differently. I have gotten no detectable pinging in lower gears. I have only had pinging between 4500RPMs and 5500RPMs in fifth and sixth gear going up hill at about 75 to 90 MPH. I suppose I could get enough load in 2nd or 3rd gear to make it ping, but I would need a VERY steep hill. A WBO2 sensor responds quickly, but the more time the engine spends in a map cell, I believe the O2 reading will be more accurate. If you use a dyno the idea is to provide enough load to hold it at the given throttle and rpm. Sixth Gear going up hill, possibly with the brakes on (but be careful) is the best way to replicate the dyno on the road. Lower RPM tuning may require a lower gear.

If you compare the PCIII maps for European bikes with the PCIII maps for US bikes, the PCIII corrections for US bikes are much richer. But I am still surprised you can run on low octane gas. I should post the PCIII Mistral maps for US and Europe for comparison. Ideally it would be nice to compare the ECU maps from both countries. It could be they are the same and something else is different like the fuel injector. Luhbo has the Titanium ECU, so although it is an interesting comparison, it effects few bikes. I loaded the Ti map and it ran very poorly at low rpms, adding PCIII corrections did not help. And adding PCIII corrections to my base map made the bike suck gas. Chrisfer has the ECU 15M type C7, I'll have to see what type I have. It is interesting that his pinging was at lower RPMs than mine. It is also interesting that dyno-tuning did not detect a need to enrich where we pinged. If someone with a non-Ti European ECU without O2 sensor has Tuneboy, I'd like to exchange maps. And if anyone did a multi-gas analysis dynotuned PCIII map, I'd like to see that!

QUOTE(dlaing @ Jan 20 2006, 08:20 AM) ... I would think a better spark would make it ping even more. I thought of going with colder spark plugs, but never tried as I figure that may increase the risk of burning valves.... What I meant, is that the better spark of the iridium would have a very small advancing effect on the flame front that might make it ping more. Rather than using iridium, I thought a colder plug would slow down the advance of the flame front, and thus reduce the chance of pinging. But from what I understand, switching to a cold plug is like changing a thermostat, potentially allowing the engine to run too hot. Since I can adjust the mixture, that is the better approach. But now since I can adjust the mixture and timing, I suppose I could go with the iridium. But I prefer the idea of cheap disposible plugs to expensive plugs since any plug is going to out last the plug washers. Every time I pull the plugs for a valve adjustment, I like the idea of having a new plug washer, and the only way I know how to have a new washer is to have a new plug. Iridiums every 3000 miles is out of my budget.

Cliff, I looked on your site for documentation on logging but did not find any. But I thought someone said your ECUs have built in logging or is it external logging to a computer or to the optimiser? Can you use the ECU's logging to log TPS, RPM, and O2, to help define the map? And if the logging is built into the ECU, can one use a simple wideband controller like the Innovation LC1 that does not have a gauge nor built in logging? Thanks in advance!

I thought the PCIV was going to be BlueTooth... (Bluetooth, so you can go to rallies and download people's map on them remotely with one of those blue tooth mobile phone addressbook and password stealing devices )

http://www.moto-euro.com/sample_article_9.htm

Carrying octane booster in a bottle is a pain. I would think a better spark would make it ping even more. I thought of going with colder spark plugs, but never tried as I figure that may increase the risk of burning valves. Certainly I can add enough fuel to make it stop pinging, but I think a better solution lies elsewhere. Specifically in the timing and cylinder offset.

Which blow more fuses? Your bike or your wife?

So the before is without PCIII or with the zero map. So, that does not help my argument, DRAT! The dyno tuner I went to recommends putting on a map with the most similar mods prior to the dyno-tune. But nobody has before and after dynos from that except me.

Did you get dyno tuned for the map, or are you using a modified map from the CD or download? What are your modifications? Mine was pinging between 4500 and 5500 above about 75 percent throttle, so I backed the advance off just about 2 or 3 % in the appropriate cells. And gave it more fuel, probably around 15% I am thinking of going leaner with even less advance, but I suspect I may lose power if I do that. It is still certainly a work in progress. I got rid of the pinging mostly at the expense of fuel consumption, now I have to turn that around. The last run I got 34MPG, up a little from the last few runs, but my target is 40MPG, with no popping, pinging or surging.

It is a brand that many people swear by. It has a great logging rate of 12 samples per second. The units are very big compared to the competition, which may be hard to fit on your bike. The price gets a little expensive once you add the RPM sensor, which I would recommend, otherwise it would very difficult to get value out of the logs. I think the 2A1 from http://wbo2.com/ offers a better value. http://wbo2.com/lsu/sensors.htm#lsu shows a lot of info about sensors. I suspect the LSU4.2 is the prefered. Avoid the LSU4.9 as it is designed for lean conditions. If you are running leaded fuel I believe you will want to look for a more resistant sensor. I can't find a link but I read something about a more durable sensor for race fuels. I am not sure what the WOS is???? probably just mean Wideband Oxygen Sensor, and could be anything WOS by Bosch. I am still leaning toward the zeitronix(but it requires Palm or laptop for road test logging) and the PLX R-300 but am looking for deals on the Techedge 2A1 and the Wego II or anything else with good logging options.

Why does it have exhaust ports under the seat AND under the gearbox? Different RPMs?

Great documentation! Makes me want to run out and get a five speed FI spine frame Guzzi!