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Hmmm, I will contact TR. That sure would suck, if it is only for ONE ECU. EDIT still waiting to hear back from them...been 24 hours.

Or maybe threading in the O2 sensor is just a placebo for the inherent failure of O2 sensors to read the mixture accurately. In any case, all the people who had great results with tuning link must indicate that it is accurate enough.

Dang! Excellent results. Imagine how much power you will get if you map the fuel!!! In addition to the power, it has to be the lightest exhaust available! Nice work.

I am not sure, but it may have to do with the temperature of the exhaust gasses. PS "I am sure you ask the dyno dude(tte) not to bother mapping the lugging the engine range." should of read, "I am sure you may ask the dyno dude(tte) not to bother mapping the lugging the engine range."

I have noticed some Tuning Link runs result in ridiculous entries of like 2500RPM and wide open throttle. So somehow or other, they are mapping at the lower end, atleast in terms of RPM... I don't think theeese eeesse goooooooood for the motor gooozie. Especially if it pings. I am sure you ask the dyno dude(tte) not to bother mapping the lugging the engine range.

But the Tune Boy and Technoresearch products also offer great diagnosic tools. Also, Jeff or somebody correct me if I am wrong, but for $449, the Direct Link lets you do unlimited maps not to one ECU, but to one model of ECU. So you buy the software, and then you buy a key for every model ECU that you work on. So you could buy a key for each, any, or one of the following ECUs: Magneti-Marelli (IAW26h, IAW1.5M, IAW1.5RC, IAW1.5P ) & Delphi So, all WE need is the one fo the 15M and then I believe we can map our friend's 15M ECUs too. But someone should check with them to make sure that is how it works, otherwise I would be looking at the tuneboy. For the frugal, they also offer a cheaper key, which only allows 5 map burns, but I assume, unlimited diagnostics, but I have no idea what the price for that is. It may be a good option for someone who is set with their modifications or who already has a PCIII, and has dyno tuned, but wants to move the map to the ECU and leave the PCIII at home, or sell it, AND get the diagnostic capabilities.

I am pretty sure it works with TechnoResearch's end user applications, such as Direct Link Race Performance Software, Scan-Tool, Digital Dashboard, and the motorbike diagnostic software tools that FBF sells. I guess you could argue that all but the Digital Dashboard are for the end user, but I will argue back My guess is that Tuneboy will also connect through the "OBD" On Board Diagnostic connector.

And some of us may interested in using your dyno services! Especially if you are open to TuneBoy, TechnoResearch's Direct Link and or DynoJet's PCIII, and can get anywhere near Tuning Link prices, which start at about $200 for a full map, but higher prices are apparently more typical.

If you bought that bike from a guy in Temecula, I may have been the one who swapped him the Quat-D for the Mistrals. If that is the bike, it sure is nice looking. I miss the Quat-D, so, if you ever want to trade, let me know. I have the round carbon fiber Mistrals.

Bump. Anybody else got any ideas about this?

Despite our lousy senses of humor, we are interested. Your posts are GREATLY appreciated!

Chop some more, chop some more! Do you think you can take it to about a half inch from the foot peg bracket? You probably already lost ten pounds! And think how much easier it will be to clean the rear wheel if you take off a few more inches. Plus the passenger won't hit there heel on the muffler as easily. And you may gain some room for saddle bags.

...and if you want the shop manual: http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/v11/

Yah, I heard if you stradle the latest Guzzi model and run her on Alcohol, she gets so hot, your tank will explode :!:

Hey Jeff, Maybe you should see if they have an upgrade price, so you can make your own map. Of course, you probably already have a PCIII.

I think Pete is just trying to compete with the Guzzi Girl thread for the most "views" I think the only valve failure related issue discussed here is the valve stem wear issue, which we probably would not have known about, except for Mike Rich tearing peoples bikes apart and finding, worse than a goat in your underware, premature wear of the stems.

Hey Bento, Are you thinking of the full staintune set up for the Sportis, Daytonas, and Centauros? It consists of headers, crossover, and slip-ons. I could probably be FORCED to fit our bike, but the Sportis have the engine off centered from the frame, it would probably require some coercing. Perhaps Carl Allison, has matched up his Sporti system with his six speed?

I don't know if this helps: Moto Guzzi North America, Inc 109 Smoke Hill Lane, Suite 190 Woodstock, GA 30188 678-238-0902 678-238-0904 Fax

Thank You Al for keeping us on topic! Which by the way is Guzzi Girls Check out the latest addition Mollie Green, star of Emanuelle vs. Dracula!

I can only guess that the Stucchi will help. I don't think anybody with the front balance pipe, has done a before and after dyno with the Stucchi crossover. Most of us were turned on to the value of the Stucchi crossover, because of Doug Lofgren's dyno results at: http://www.manleycycle.com/Tech.htm#MotoGuzzi FBF also makes a nice crossover. http://www.ferracci.com/2002ferracci/perfo...ll_exhaust.html

It is easy to use the Power Commander. Also, Guzzi Hutch is correct that bikes with the front balance pipe are not prone to the dip in the HP curve at 4000-5000RPM. I guess this is because of a combination of the balance pipe and higher compression pistons. But once you have gone to aftermarket mufflers everything changes, so I would bet the Stucchi crossover is a great idea.

cool! they have added Mapping, and wide band O2 support. How much do they charge? The old product was $250-$500 depending on PC or Palm and what features are present on the Palm version. This could be a good alternative to tuneboy if it is cheap enough... I assume you can map more than one bike with this software. With Tuneboy you need to pay 100-150 dollars for every bike you map, but the initial cost for the software, kit and mapping key for one ECU $310 (US) I wonder how they compare, feature per feature??? Direct Link Lists: Reflash multiple maps via serial programming. • Modify fuel front & rear cylinder table, spark front & rear cylinder table, etc. • Modify Rev-limiter (RPM) • Fuel front & rear cylinder, spark front & rear cylinder, etc. table tracer • External Wide-Band Oxygen sensor • View data using strip chart or gauge/meter format • Data logger feature: automatic or manual modes. Logs data on basis of user-defined engine parameters. • Alternate data capture positions: start/middle/ end • Available in 5 languages • Direct-Link comes with CD-ROM (software & manual), serial interface box & cable, & Hardware Key for USB or Parallel Port. Tuneboy does not yet have a description for the Guzzi, but the Aprillia/Triumph/Bennelli list of features can be seen here: http://www.tuneboy.com.au/Products/Products.html I think the only thing the tuneboy is missing is the availability in languages other than Englitch. And maybe wide band O2 sensor support....or maybe it is mentioned in the ECU thread???

Scary is right! There are no gyroscope holding up the rider, just the pendulum force of the batteries and motor. Here is where the rider theoretically is durring maximum breaking, you have to imagine the sparks flying... I think a front and rear wheelie bar in order.

Here is an interesting link: http://megasquirt.sourceforge.net/MegaTunix/index.html Looks like it would take me 10 years to figure out, but pretty cool for people like Cliff, who probably already knows about it.

Thanks! The prices are a little steep, but it would be great not to have to rely on a dyno tuner at $200+ per map. Plus if you use your own O2 sensor you not only can develop a map the way you want it, you can diagnose when things go amiss. Plus you can tune on the top of the mountain and by the seashore, in the rain, and when the santa anas dry winds hit. Can I maximize power the way I can with a dyno, not really. It would take a stop watch and a lot of time, or a data logger. But it would be more fun than sitting in the tuning link dyno waiting room as they lug your baby at WOT at 2500RPM, possibly pinging the engine with their earphones on...