Scottie

Definitely the one that spawned my interest. Definitely also seems pricey. A BMW HP2 Sport can be had for not much more (I know sacrelige but seriously...)

This might come as amateurish but I just became acquainted with the Daytona RS (no, not to ride, I wish!)... but am seriously contemplating selling my kidney for one. Is there anyone here that would be willing to talk a bit off line about some real first hand experience with an RS? I'd love to hear more, and whether it's worth selling my soul. Cheers

The quote below discussing spring rates says if you have MORE than 10mm of static sag then you may need stiffer springs (e.g.: your springs are too SOFT). If you have LESS than 5mm or zero static sag, then your springs are too hard for your weight. They were not saying the same thing Although they are misleading... Regarding free sag, very little free sag (unladen) is indicative of either too much pre-load (meaning your spring is too soft) or too little pre-load on too stiff a spring (typically much too stiff) or too LONG a spring (which has happened on bikes such as the new Ducati Superbikes). In essence your unladen free sag should simply exist to put the spring in tension, and then to adjust your rider sag to where you want it. If you are at either extreme on your pre-load settings, you need a different spring. Too much pre-load, you need a stiffer spring. Too little or no pre-load, you need a softer spring. I have run almost all my "sport" bikes 35-40mm of rider / laden sag (10-15mm free) in the front, and 25-30mm rider sag (5-10mm free) in the rear. Damping (compression or rebound) does not affect overall travel per-se, but it affects the amount of time it takes for your fork or shock to travel through it's stroke. That's why it's proper to think "Fast" and "Slow" when making damping adjustments, not "Hard" and "Soft" as seems to be the norm (and even put on the clickers by some manufacturers?!). A very SLOW damping rate (turned full IN) will result in a bike that does not move or react quickly to bumps or inputs and will FEEL "hard." For anyone getting into fiddling with your own suspensions, do yourself a favor and buy this book: Sportbike Suspension Tuning by Andrew Trevitt. It is the best introduction to what your suspension is, how it works, and how to adjust it that I have yet found. Cheers, Scott No, that is not what I said. I said that when checking you free sag (how much the bike sags without the rider on board), after you have set your race sag (how much the bike sags WITH the rider on board), that if you have too much free sag then you need softer springs. This is telling you that in order to get you race sag where you wanted it you had to back off your preload too much because your springs are too stiff. If you don't have enough free sag that is saying you had to add too much preload to get the race sag where you wanted it because your springs are too soft. I hope this is clearer to you.

That specific bike or the Scura? Kinda like the full fairing to be honest, but that looks sweet too Esp the wheels...

Yeah... Rosso vs. Nero is a toss up in my mind, I love both, but there's something about the black one. Disclosure!!! I am biased Personally, I'd get the Rosso if money isn't the limiting factor. I recommend to any askers, "go with the Ohlins". And it has the fairing, which I find very functional without ruining the view in any way. If you don't want it, there is always someone looking for one, and you then offset the Rosso's premium asking price. I don't believe there was any difference in the Sport vs. LeMans frame set ups, it was the year they lengthend the wheel base that was the "big" change. And I don't recall anyone writing up on this, but I think it was possibly Leo Tamers who offered a steering head bearing and race set that put the '03 and later bikes back to the earlier bikes geometry, ??? Best of both worlds???. I saw it when my Nero was newer to me, and after putting miles on it, decided I didn't need it. $11,000 sounds like he's telling his wife "it is for sale, really... but this economy, etc" in order to keep it. And I can't blame him, cause once you've got your Nero, all the others are simply beautiful, just not the most beautiful... Enjoy the Hunt, S.H.

Thanks man! I'm somewhat sure the Rosso Corsa speaks to me more though.... something about it (wish the Nero was less $ though, as the black is the secks). The '02 and later bikes are 25deg rake. I think (could be wrong) that the red frames are .5 degree steeper. Rear ride height is not adjustable from the factory. If you go after that red frame be sure to check the VIN against the transmission recall notice posted in the fileshare section of this site. Good luck with your search!

I don't mind the long wheelbase, I guess what I'd like to know is more on the rake and rear ride heights, and whether these are adjustable. I rarely leave the chassis alone on any bike I own, typically doing triple clamps on most to get the feel I want out of the front end. That being said I doubt I'll do that much to any Guzzi I might own, but I'm currently debating between a Red Frame V11 Sport (silver) for $4k with 2000 miles, and a Rosso Corsa for double that with 4,000 miles. Both are all stock, and I'm sort of debating what direction I would want to take. The full Ohlins in my mind, is worth every penny of the higher asking price. Sadly, a clean Nero Corsa is also available locally, but the seller is asking $11,000.... Thanks for the info!

I can't vouch for life yet, but I have ~6 track days on em and a combined total of 2,000 miles and they look fantastic.... this is on a ZRX1100 so not exactly a light bike either! The RA2's are supposed to be worlds better, and will be here next year supposedly. Partly why I decided to try the Sport Attack next. I mentioned the Road Attacks in my first post. I really liked them but they wore out a little too quickly for me. I want more than 4000 miles out of a pair of tires so I don't have to buy two sets of tires in one riding season. They have a Road Attack 2 on their website now that I might try next time. I don't have too many miles on the new Pirelli Angels yet but they seem OK so far.

I am definitely curious of the overall budget for one of these... too bad my impatience would likely preclude me from being able to get such a gorgeous end product. Congrats to you.

While I haven't had a chance to sample them on a Guzzi yet, I'm surprised no one here has mentioned the Continental Road or SportAttack... Long time Pilot Road fan, but the Continental Road Attacks are simply a great all around tire... I will be trying the SportAttacks next!

I recently joined the forum and am in the midst of a bit of a personal crisis. I have the overwhelming desire for a V11, I have test rode a Rosso Corsa locally that is beautiful, and am curious about the Scura as well. I have read a few articles citing ride height differences and to sum it all up, my question is this... I absolutely do not expect a hypersports bike, but what is the best handling V11 in terms of geometry? I am a long-time racer and track day junkie, so I would love nothing more than to show some 600 mounted folks a thing or two on a big, bad Guzzi... but as I have not ridden nearly enough of them... I was hoping to discern what is the best *handling* V11? Are there significant differences between the LeMans and the Sport in terms of geometry? For whatever reason this seems somewhat hard to find info... Cheers, and I hope to be joining the fray very soon