belfastguzzi

Mike, my single plate 2002 is still pretty new and it has rattled like this from day one. From what others with these clutches have said, that's just what they are like. Maybe someday I will have a look inside to see what's shaking: meantime I don't think it's anything to worry about. Al and others have mentioned about these clutches not lasting the pace. That has surprised me as I am sure I read about the single plates being nearly indestructible. Weren't they mercilessly tested and stood up to all severe thrashings? The trouble is I can't remember where I read this. Maybe it came from Guzzi and was overblown publicity. However I wonder have they really been as bad as reported here, or is it just a few unfortunate cases? Interestingly, from new, the gearbox snicked imperceptably into first gear. It was sheer delight. Since around 600 miles it has been rougher, clonkier. Hopefully that lovely smooth shift will come back again in time.

I intend keeping it for a while. I thought it was not just topical to this thread, but representative of good old Moto Guzzi values. I think I might have to strip out all those metric fittings and replace them with Whitworth. As for other modifications: I've got some cast iron sink brackets that I'm sure would make a fine pannier rack. In relation to MOT: the kph scale might be just a regulation in N.I. and not in G.B. - yet. We can't get MOTs done in local garages. Have to go a purpose built government MOT test centre. At the end of last year the backlog was 6 to 9 weeks! the result is that one in four cars here are being driven without MOT certificates, which means their insurance policy is invalidated. Pretty bad.

I tried a quick search but couldn't find the thread, otherwise I would have put a link in. Someone with more knowledge will post in a while. I don't suppose the clutches are interchangeable? Are you sure you got the right one?

There has been recent discussion here of the various clutch rattles. Yours is probably as normal as everyone else's. One difference is the 2002 bikes with a single plate, which rattle in neutral with the clutch engaged whilst the double plates rattle when clutch is disengaged.

I've been wondering about that. So far I have been only riding in cold weather. Acceleration can be rough with hesitation through 5,000 and 6,000 rpm – just where you want it to be smooth. Most of my winter journeys have been short so I can't really tell how much things change with warming up over a long trip. I've never had a bike with EFI before. Cars seem to drive ok from start in the cold, but I suppose they don't have all their bits hanging out. When out this afternoon, I would say the bike was a bit rough accelerating around 5,000 rpm for about 20 miles. I'm not sure when/if it smoothed out, but that would indicate that it probably was better after 25 miles or so and therefore I didn't notice it. Does that fit with your experience of warming-up symptoms in cold weather?

Dunno. Where's the Midlands? I thought it was somewhere south of Portlaoise? A meet-up on the way would be great. It depends what you mean by a frolic around the valleys. I'm definitely up for that, but I'm hoping that I'll get over a few days early so that I can have a proper frolic. Then it's off to Mr Baldini's for a cuppa tea... I'll post this in the UK meet thread, in case there is any more discussion on travel arrangements.

Good point!

Yes. Is yours still not registered by 'that dealer'? I have been meaning to send in my service book to get the first service stamped. I'm wondering if it is worth querying the peeling engine paint as a warranty issue? I can't remember if you have had a paint problem. If so, what happened with dealer? I'll also mention the blown timing case gasket. When I bought and collected the bike and was on my way bak to the ferry, I noticed that the screen is cracked. I didn't want to turn back then and I assume it is too late to do anything about it now, but I might as well ask if it might be covered by waranty. I doubt it. When I collected the bike, the dealer said something about replacing a gearbox spring as some had given trouble but they didn't know which ones were affected. He said they had changed mine anyway. At that time I had no idea what he was talking about. That was BVC time (Before V11.Com). D Did you have no luck with the dealer over the spring issue? db

As a matter of interest, what happens at MOT time? When I had a Ducati with only mph on the clock I had to change the face to a euro friendly one that also had kph on it. Does the MOT accept a kph clock, although we actually use mph in reality? Preumably there is a secondary mph scale on your clock?

Belfastguzzi, See http://ryuv11.free.fr/v11/scuraohlins/v11scuramanual-02.jpg > http://ryuv11.free.frv11/scuraohlins/v11scuramanual-04.jpg and Thanks very much Baldini. Does that mean that there is a specific MG owners manual for the Scura? Did you get one with your bike? I just got a generic V.11 handbook that doesn't cover the Scura specs.

are you still thinking that you will get to the June Midlands meet?

Paul What is the Scura booklet and where did you get it?

In UK we still pay for the bike in real British Pounds, not Euros, though the bike is weighed in kilogrammes, not pounds. (Or for a Harley you can choose between tons and tonnes.) Forward motion is still miles per hour, though the distance from one end of the bike to the other will be a matter of centimetres, not feet and inches. (Again, Harley owners may prefer yards.) Perversely, feet/pounds is retained for the measure of thumpiness from the motor whose displacement will be counted in euro litres/c.c.s rather than generous cubic inches or grand British cups or fluid ounces. Trusty horses are still used to measure engines rather than those nana bananas or whatever they are. There seems to be a strong movement to put bars into tyres now. Pounds might have been ok for cross-plies but they musn't be up to the job for modern radials. As to tyre measurement itself..... I'll not go there. And we don't use tires here at all. I like to think that tanks still come in gallons, but I guess if I measured one (you can call me Al) I would find that it is actually litres. Thankfully the common measurement of wallet capacity remains miles per imperial gallon. Miles per litre may be inevitible, but surely km per ltr are just too bizarre? 1 US fluid ounce = 29.5735297 milliliters Yikes! There's a US fluid ounce! (As well as an American litre.) "I'll have 3 stones of the Empire's best paraffin for my trusty Guzzi, please. Thank you."

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Hi RichieBS yeah, 'casual" is not the way to go when attaching luggage to a bike. When I was looking at the web for info I came across a story about someone being killed when an Oxford tailpack slid round and into the back wheel. There were a few stories like that and apparently this was a major issue for Oxford. Not supplying correct fitting instructions was the issue. Take care with those bungees. I wouldn't rely on them.

Thanks Tim, I'll e-mail you later. Neither the e-mail or the PM systems seem to be working at the moment. My Oxford tank bag worked fine on a steel tank with the headstock strap and the magnets. I took the magnets out yesterday, for the Guzzi. The front strap willl just about go around the headstock at full-length adjustment. I think I'll make bracket for the Guzzi spine to attach tank-bag straps to, as I don't see anything handy. I wonder what your tank bag attaches to?

- note to self - stop going to bike shows and buying bargains, eg panniers and stuff. Two years ago I got a great leather jacket. Salesman said it was he last one so was a great price. I hadn't had one before with all that horrible armour in. It felt odd so I sought guidance from salesman, "does it really fit me?" "It fits perfectly" says he. Howcome it was only when I handed over the dosh and got home that I realised the arms reached down to my ankles...?

I would love to hear how people have adapted fittings on bags or bike. I have Oxford tankbag, panniers, tailbag. I want to attach them to the bike without a rear rack. There's nothing much around the seat or the tank to attach straps or bungee hooks to. The seat pan doesn't allow an underseat strap to run through. If anyone has fitted Oxford or similar products, I wonder have you just attached longer straps or have people fitted tie-down brackets or loops to the bike, front and rear? Or what...?

The most helpful bit is hearing that it's cold and dark there too: 'cos rain stopped play for me. Yes, 10mm looked right, but the pitch was slightly different from everything I tried. It must be fine pitch - so thanks. The reason that I took the seat off was to see how I might attach panniers and stuff. Please feel free to be helpful with suggestions about that too. That'll be another thread then. PS Good job you posted. Otherwise I would have had to use the hammer - and I think that would have hurt.

It must have been assembled by Guzzi

I took the seat off and heard a rattling sound. It was a loose 17mm nut lying in the seat cover elastic. Looks like it is off the hollow threaded bolt that secures the rear removable seat cowl to the seat pan. There is no nut on or around the bolt on the other side. I have tried a range of similar sized nuts. So far, can't find one that fits. Does anyone happen to know what size this bolt/nut actually is?

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I have no idea what you're talking about... Give us a clue? KB,Cymru I don't expect you were there - it happened 1948 to 1953 "Open exhausts with megaphones echoed thundering roars around hills of a hitherto solemnly silent region. Strong Army presence was evident in the forms of Lt. Commander Kidston along with Officer Commanding the Royal Artillery practice camp at Sennybridge Major Stackpoole. Builth Wells Motor Club along with Carmarthen Motor Club shared prominence. Stewards, Marshals, First Aiders came into view, along with laden charabancs plus all forms of transport carrying eager supporters to settle down as witnesses to a massive inaugural event. Eppynt circuit, 5.2 miles per lap, wound across open moorland, undulating, with humps, over which speeds of 90 to 95 mph had been estimated during a Saturday Senior practice session, such speed there was amazing to even contemplate at that time. Rife rumour plus tittle-tattle brought a mass of motorcyclists to observe such feats. "Acknowledged experts" was an attracting term, coupled with "works riders", "factory machines", creeping into popular dialogue eager to dispense with Ration books, Petrol coupons, Powdered egg and Utility furniture expressions. Magazines plus media coverage brought names like L.R. Archer, Les Graham, Italian Moto Guzzi machine rider Maurice Cann to be household names. A possibility of seeing those which one could otherwise only read about proved irresistable, add Clubman’s Senior TT winner Jack D. Daniels with runner up Phil Heath to such a field to set a very fine stage. Syd Barnett failed to turn up this time only. So did Roy Evans, L.G. Martin arrived late from Spain too late to practice, still having too much clutch trouble to take a worthwhile part in tussles. Kenny Dixon rode a rather old Norton 350, recurring clutch trouble caused him to retire masking a young Dixon’s potential. Phil Heath confided that he too arrived late and could not contribute his usual ferocity due to machine problems throughout his ride. Bob Foster had competed in Moto-Cross des Nations in Belgium on a weekend prior to Eppynt TT, he said he had taken a fall and was forced to withdraw to rest a painful back injury. However it was rumoured he was to ride the Grand Prix of Europe in Ulster the following weekend and felt it unwise to compete at demanding Eppynt Circuit so close to the Grand Prix." Look at - silverdragons.co.uk but I don't see a map or actual circuit route there.

Something positive could yet come out of these posts. I reckon if all the words were just re-ordered a bit, there must be the perfect test question in here for selecting which kids go to grammar school and which ones go to secondary school (sorry, that's a local example that probably doesn't translate to other education systems). It could be called the Vortex Test and Al could get the Nobel prize for services rendered. Ok, the real question is: what's that chin pad (as mentioned by Al) for anyway? Is it decoration, or do Italians have very long chins?