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...hmmm That video wouldn't launch for me, which is possibly just as well. However I tried one of the others, Wozard of Iz: High on Big Sur. Was/is Mort Garson a dark, transatlantic equivalent of Daevid Allen (who originally hailed from your continent, I believe) and his gnomic Gong excursions?

Is it really? I'll have to watch it again... to look at the car.

Thanks for the observation & further explanations, Jason. It's a strangely dramatic story. I was thinking of similar sorts of circumstances that I've been in or created and often some of us from a more carefree generation (re H&S) don't bother too much about dust, dirt and fumes. In this case, I was thinking how I'd been using brake cleaner as a more general cleaner on parts of the bike and then when the bike is started, as yesterday, there are all sorts of lovely smells arising from the hot parts, particularly the exhaust. There are lots of other examples, like welding galvanised steel or drilling into asbestos wall/roof panels, or just being plastered in old engine oil... but something like the use of spray solvents/chemicals is much more commonplace and liable to inappropriate or dangerous use. Oww! Now what's squirted in my eyes!?

We know chemicals can be very nasty. If this story is true, and I don't see why not, Brake Cleaner can turn deadly nasty in the wrong circumstances. Take care. See story HERE

There are not many new motorcycles being sold here. The secondhand market (for bigger bikes) is also very slow. The local Piaggio-Aprilia-Guzzi place is doing better than most because he can sell anything from 50cc up: and it is mostly the wee scooters, toys and cheap beginners' bikes that are selling. Looking at lists of best sellers in 2010 ( and some were posted here a few months ago, I think?) it's surprising that big bikes are at the top. I would think that they will become more difficult to sell, as prices shoot up and running costs increase. Will 600 - 750s not become more popular?

Not you, then? Interesting wee site. What does OTE stand for, in relation to pay?

After I saw it, I posted it on a local site here, saying I thought it an evocative picture. Someone replied, 'who won?' I said that you did because you were bringing your newly purchased machinery home (I think) but I also added– I wasn't sure if I had the geography right, or what stage of the day or the journey/adventure it was – but that doesn't matter.

Yeah: that was Antonio, three posts up.

(I've forgotten how the Multiquote works) ?? Indeed, well said: an alternative is not a guarantee of better. It is good to remember what the original emotion, spirit, experience, motivation was – as familiarity can make it dull. Something as simple as an enthusiasts' forum or group can and should do that. It should not suffocate the enthusiasm - or communicate it in a false, unrealistic way. Also, the company of others can make us appreciate what we already have and sometimes create a new positive perspective on what we have. Very well said.

I knew it would all end in tears.

Oh you're so vain. Put the mirror away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUb3-tRs_A

he-he ...if anything snaps...

Same speculation with BMW of course (For watercooling by 2012 / Euro 4). But who knows?

Happy Birthday Ballabio Bertie, wherever you are! Where are you?

Watercooling on its way? If I read that right. The Other Place will explode! Get out, run....

Ah, those 3 models above, probably refer to the 3 TB concepts shown at Eicma. So perhaps those designs will be developed with this new engine?

Talk here, for what it's worth at this stage, of new 'sports': new Le Mans, new streetfighter and an off-road/dual purpose. Again no surprise. First - a new Cali! though that's with current 1200. Valves seem a compromise, as well as the engine inclination. Looks like they thought 3 was best (2 intake) but are going for 4 for sportiness.

From what I can make out, this seems like not unexpected news, in light of what we were saying in the previous threads about the inevitable need to move to water-cooled engines. MG could do worse than to learn from the Dorsoduro engine. Interesting news. Good news. Though many will also declare it to be sad news. Good news that the cylinder angle is changing to allow more room for the airbox (where current 1200 is crippled) as well as rider's knees, and placing more weight to the front. Looks like they can only achieve half the angle shift that they really wanted though. Give it a chain.

At last! Moto Guzzi has finally in her drawings the manufacture of new [ygropsyktoy] engine. With capacity 1200 cubic, eight globally valves and head [ekkentroforoys], the V2 90th has been programmed it presents in the EICMA in November 2012. The engineers in the headquarters of maternal Piaggio in Pontedera, he is confirmed that they work '? this, under the guidance of Federico Martini. Martini began as basic engineer in the foundation of Bimota, continued in Gilera and today the guru of planning is head in Powertrain Engineering of Piaggio. With this engine that they develop will be revived the historical trade name with a line of new models period 2013 - 2015. It is believed that at least first from them it can be inspired from the three [prototypa] Moto Guzzi that presented in Eicma in 2009, creations of Pierre Terblanche Thus, after almost half century, where Moto Guzzi moved traverse aircooled V2 90° with [ostiria], came the time for a new engine. This engine began his career in the means of decade 1960 and became the signal of deposited company. Now it is time [xanathymithoyn] the [ygropsyxi] and first [ygropsykto] engine, legend fighting V8 500. The new engine will not be development existing with [ostiria] but one new drawn in white paper, capable it covers the specifications Euro 4 that will be stricter and is believed that very with difficulty will cover him aircooled engines, that will be in effect in 2014. The engine will have two heads [ekkentroforoys] with their rotation it becomes from mixed system with cogwheels and [kadenes] as in the new V2 of Dorsoduro. The delivery of Guzzi with the final transmission by axis is maintained, as [diamikis] in the frame crank and the corner 90th. Innovation will be the bent of rolls at 8th to front, giving more space for the knees of jockey, the box of filter air but also [fortizontas] front wheel with more weight. The engineers had hoped in a more intense bent 15th but do not allow him the junction with the axis of transmission. This characteristic of bent of rolls in Guzzi, for first time existed in one from the previous prototypes of company, pioneering V2 75° of engine with the code VA-10, drawn for the decade 1990 from then [archimichaniko] the company, Angelo Ferrari, before the market of Moto Guzzi in 2000 from Aprilia. This [ygropsyktos], with dry [karter], spraying, two heads [ekkentroforoys], [exatachyto] box and shifted [kombia] in the crank for balancing of vibrations, was intended it is placed in proposed model mg-1. This was drawn with chain in the final transmission but the drawing was cancelled by Beggio in order to are dedicated resources in the growth of Aprilia and it enters in the space scooter developing him Amico and later Scarabeo. His certain elements however will be used in the new engine that is developed in Pontedera. There it will be manufactured and transported in the factory of Moto Guzzi in Mandello del Lario, for the final assembly of models. Initially had been selected three valves for each roll of (two import) in order to are facilitated the course of pipes of export but the need for big output so that it is placed in models Sport as news Le Mans, in Streetfighter and on-off, it was selected the provision with four valves. All will be also revealed in November 2012 - but before then, a new publication of California it is considered that it is under development and is expected it is presented in the EICMA this year in the fall, with the [oktabalbido] engine of Griso8V. Can this very well be the last new model of Moto Guzzi with aircooled engine, because the problems with the achievement of requirements of Euro 4"?

Now was that meant to be, didn't I warn you? Sucker. or didn't I warn you, sucker? Whatever, I did warn you about hanging around that place. Tonight you made me look and what I saw was: Get outta there, while you still can mucker

Does it make much difference to the insurance cost?

Wow: brilliant! I've missed a lot of this thread so I'll have to go back to see what all you did, e.g. what's the exhaust? Fabulous work and design finish, Jaap.

Rough stuff! Good video, HJ. Same sort of motivation as the Real Road Racers film though this is more a person story, whereas the RRR is more about the racing group, community, phenomenon.

Old & venerable maybe but people are spending serious money on Mk11 Escorts these days. ..... I've just seen a Mk1 RS2000 Escort advertised by a dealer here – at £23,000! The reason that I noticed that was because the same 'prestige' dealer has a V11 Le Mans advertised at £5,000! A bit steep, when the going price for one in good condition a year or two ago was more like £3,500. You'd buy a low mileage Griso for £5k Could it be that the V11 is now entering the Classic stage and we're sitting on small gold mines?