Moderator hat on:
OK, all youse guys...you all know who you are. Like your dad said 'I don't care who started it, but I know damn well whose going to finish it'. You and you and you and you aren't going to change anyone's mind nor convert anyone to your particular reasoning, so there's no point in going on. You're just irritating the natives.
I just drove in from the Illinois Rally (great time, great weather) and I have to come to work on a Sunday morning, and I haven't seen my wife and kid for a couple days, so I'm generally grumpy. And I haven't had any godda*%$#m coffee, so you can figure out what that means.
Now put it back in your pants and play nice.
Sincerely yours,
Jason