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Have you leaned it out using the PCIII or the TPS? It seems to me (I'm guessing here) that there are two factors important for fuel delivery- pressure and time the injector is open. If you can't adjust the pressure, you should be able to turn down the time interval (?). If I'm wrong or missing something, I'd like to know. Also, I think comparing water-cooled to 'fuel-cooled' is not fair. You can lean-burn water cooled motors and get great mileage- heck, my Toyota Prius can get 40's even without the battery assist by burning lean.

dlaing has it right. wouldn't it be more interesting if it were Teller? (assuming that one is Penn)

No one's mentioned the 'torq-it' wrench? I haven't bought one yet 'cause I'm a sucker for punishment, but they are supposed to be the cat's meow for taking off the sump. http://www.torq-it.com/

I gotta go with the haggis. I hear there's some might attractive ones roaming the bogs.

Several people with '00 and '01 models, including myself, have drilled out the upper triple clamp. It's no problem if you drill through the bosses that are there. In addition to Todd's suggestion, check out the How-to section here. I wrote up a brief description that may be helpful. Good luck! Oh- the Aluminum casting is pretty low quality- be prepared to go slow, clean off your cutter a couple of times and don't cut yourself like I did. Or do- it's a nice offering to the Guzzi Gods.

Antonio, you're fantastic! I'm still not sold on the Griso. It's got some design successes and some failures for me. Frankly, I like the smooth transmission housing. It reminds me of the original V7 sport casting.

You want ultimate reliability for short trips to work and whatnot? Get a honda 4 stroke 250cc enduro. Cheap, indestructable, fun and cheap. And fun. The Guzzi shouldn't leave you walking if it's properly set up. 18K miles this one and it's doing fine (touch wood). And your bike is fine, Nogbad. Ride it till it breaks down, then fix it. You'll be riding awhile. J

Sad. I hope the damage is minimal. The old bacon slicers are fine, fine machines.

This is a joke, right?

Oh be nice. Here's a hint- here is another view http://www.motorcycle.com/mo_photo.motml?d..._Garson_725.jpg (sorry, couldn't dynamically link)

great- that crinkle paint will flake off in no time..... but you might get a tshirt out of it

FWIW, I got mailer daemon back on Thomas McDonald:

edit: I thought ".si" was Romanian, but if you do the conversion between Romanian Lei and USD, the cost of the pipes (106,000) comes out to $3.80. I'll buy two pair at that price!

Support Mark: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5428

Sigh. Too much money.

They do have a listing for the V11, but no photo.

I fitted things incrementally. Pipes first, then the pods (airfilters) then, much later, the stucchi xover. I have not fitted a PCIII yet. The pipes made little perceptible difference, but they sound cool. Likewise the the pods. Both did make some difference on the top end, but that's not where I usually ride. However, they did sound great, so whether or not I was going faster, I sure enjoyed it more! I didn't think it would get any better, but I still had that niggling 4K flat spot. Then I fitted the stucchi. I didn't want to buy one, because they are expensive and I'm cheap. But I found a used one for $100, so I decided to do the experiment. The stucchi made the most real world difference- right in the midrange where I normally ride. I can't say if I lost or gained power at the top end, but the mid opened up and it pulls hard to yellow line. I'm willing to trade it if I did lose a hp or two. In order to accomodate the changes, I did have to richen the TPS setting. There still is a bit of vibration 3-4K, so I try to avoid that range, and I can tell there is still a minor flat spot, but overall it is much, much improved. I don't have a PCIII, as I said above. Many folks have praised the PCIII, most of the nay-sayers, I've noticed, are not users. Of course, that could be because it's an expensive part, so of course it benefits. Like a titanium air-bleed screw that gives you 5 hp on the top end. I just can't say, because I don't know. I'll probably get one some day, just to do the experiment myself. I was very skeptical of the stucchi and now I admit I was wrong on that one. I think fuel injection is a lot simpler than carbs. There's two adjustments to make (normally). TPS and TB synching. TPS is a knob and a voltmeter- it doesn't get much easier. I found the TBs went out of synch pretty often early on during break-in. The bike would get real nasty vibrations. Synching the TBs would fix it for 3K miles or so. After about 12-15K miles, they haven't seemed to move much (I'm at 18K now). Of course, all of this is on my bike, in my area, using my gas, etc. It seems the V11 is about as variable in response to mods as the Tonti frames are. For me, the stucchi just 'worked'. The others are candy- taste great, but not as nutritious. I don't feel qualified to discuss the merits of the PCIII- I just don't have one, nor have I ridden a bike fitted with one. I want to keep an open mind on the unit, so I'll defer to others on this topic. I do agree with your assessment of the maps, so I would talk to Todd Eagan, the guy who sells the PCIII. I've heard nothing but good things about Todd. Summary- if I were only going to make one modification, I'd do the xover. Then the pipes, then the intake. The injection has to be adjusted to accomodate these changes, but that is easily done by enriching at the TPS. TB synching makes a huge difference in perceived vibrations and character. If you wait till winter, I'll ship you my xover and you can try it out yourself. Not 'till winter though- too much in the meantime. J

lock up your chickens.

I did see that. I was reminded of an anthropology lecture on the South American Shamans who blew Datura powder up each others noses. Only DL has to take it to the next level. Remember, it's better to burn out than rust away, my friend.

Usually the flat spot is between 3-4K rpm, and then kind of bland from 4-5K. Above 5, my sport motor really starts to open up. What helped more than anything with the lower rpms was new, open, pipes, new stucchi crossover (helped most) and opening up the breather box to just air-filter pods. The intake and the exhaust are fairly restricted in stock form. Also, there's no substitute for miles. Mine started to open up at 5K, but really started to blossom at 10K. Give her a few miles. Oh- vibration.... vibrates some at all rpms, but smooths out at 5K plus. My solution- ride at or above 5K unless a cop is looking at me.

Firemen don't do much for me. Firewomen, on the other hand....... (with a tip of the hat to Staedler)

Um, you do know that when PVC breaks down, it released HCl (hydrochloric acid)? Not necessarily something to worry about since there is plenty of ventilation. Just don't sniff your bike....for any number of reasons, really. I mean, look at Belfast. So far, I've read of breather hose failure on east/west coast of the US. Has anyone in the center of the country (or other countries) experienced similar problems? I'm wondering if some of the gas additives are contributing to the rubber degradation. Gas has fewer oxygenates here in the midwest, and my breather hose seems to be holding up, though I haven't inspected it very carefully. I'm afraid if I do, then I'll have to replace it . Of course, you coast-fellows can put a few more miles on the bike as well, and that's another possibility.

Great news. I would go over the bike with a fine-tooth comb though to check for damage. Check the oil, gasoline, use a penlight and inspect the gears, etc.

Don't you get shanked for that kind of talk? Seriously, glad to hear MGNA came through and you have a functioning motorbike!

Sorry to hear that. The Zeb is a nice looking machine- very organic. Along with the new 22 L fueltank, you'll have to fit panniers, a sissy bar and some fringe on the handlebar levers /ducks