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After I gave you information earlier that very well may be incorrect I did some research, at least the little I could find that I have some confidence in. I don't like giving out bad information and the aluminum flywheel saga has haunted these pages since I've been here. In searching various parts books it shows that p/n's are consistent for Tenni, Scura, and RM for the flywheel and all the clutch parts. The fact that all the p/n's line up means the flywheels were at least interchangeable. That leaves the 'two sources of manufacture' theory. So Guzzi built the first 'batch' maybe in house, for installation on their first 'special', the lovely RM. Then at some point they presumably outsourced the next batch to cover the next 2 specials, and these are the bad ones. This seems to be what people are saying and could explain high mileage RM's with no clutch problems. So the next question would be how many "good" flywheels did they make? Enough for the entire RM run? If so then some of the first Tenni/Scura out there got a good flywheel. If not enough then there's a few RM's out there with the bad flywheel. If there's any more info out there that might wrap this story up with a definitive answer I don't know where to look. Maybe someone else can add to this.

So.. there are two different flywheels for the single plate clutch setup offered in '01-'02? This is news to me. I'm no authority and was just going by what I've learned on this forum. It does make me wonder why I swapped out my clutch/flywheel when I could have replaced the flywheel with one for an '01 RM. So dbarb3, kindly disregard my input. With my apologies.

Gosh, ... that's a tough question. Not that many shops about that would know the particulars. I was quoted 2300 4 years ago but it was from a dealer I did not trust. The parts for a RAM replacement will be around 600. The parts for the std dual plate will run from 400 used to ?$?$? new. It's a labor intensive job as the tranny OR the motor has to be pulled to do it. If you're just looking for a number to make an offer on a bike you might buy, IMO give yourself at least 1500-2000 'BUT' figure in that you know someone qualified to do it. That said, I did my own swap for only the cost of the clutch, and I'm not exactly a technician, just an extreme hobbyist with the good fortune of having this forum as a reference. It was a job I was scared to death to do but after it was done "that wasn't so bad". Bottom line... an oem single plate clutch will want replacing.

Welcome Chris. To be honest the thing is growing on me. Especially the green one. If I thought it perfection I still would have no use for it. I'm just past that type/size/class/sort of machine, but they aren't building their new line for me are they. I'm circling the drain as a demographic. It certainly looks better than several that came out post 2005 (won't mention names). Guzzisti are gonna bitch about anything new from Guzzi. That's what we do. They must know this. They're building for the future, as they should. All that said, the motor is very interesting. They have my attention and should they come up with a chassis that makes me feel the way I did when I first saw the Tenni.... who knows?

so if it is running the original single plate clutch, it is something to consider. It should be replaced imo before too many miles. The aluminum flywheel with those models is prone to cracking and maybe flying to bits causing considerable damage. Many have been replaced with RAM single plate with steel flywheel or the standard dual plate set up. Both work well. I chose the RAM.

We/you need a bit more info because it could have the original (bad) flywheel OR it could be one that was replaced by an aftermarket single plate.

Not Ballabio Tom, but the Rosso Mandello 2001 is included with the Tenni and Scura

A little deeper dive in to ACF50 for those interested. Several mentions of the benefit to electrical bits. One shot shows them filling connector plugs. Is this an alternative to DeOxit?

found it best price at Aircraft Spruce but shipping nixed it for me. Amazingon Prime is 6buks less. on the way... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G42NR7G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2X7K0J2CFON0V&psc=1

Allen Millyard is a genius. It seems like there's nothing he can't do. I've watched a slew of his videos and can't get enough. My first question to him would be ... where do you find the energy? His lovely wife's cakes no doubt.

ACF50, a new-to-me product. Seems brilliant. Thanks. I watched a video on application and this guy sings it's praises. I will bee trying this out soon.

Triumph is a great business model. They have a sizable line of traditional, Including customs in different genre, a separate and complete line of modern innovation, adventure bikes arena well covered, and on top- some over the top wildasscruiserbehemoth something or other.

you at least give them "credit" for a modern design... I see this as a reminder. Monocoque body very close.

That was a cool read. I detected a bit of pandering to the crowd of readers who would call him out (cancel) for saying anything at all positive about it. I'm happy to see it acknowledged. I think he got more than a push down the alley on a racer regarding the "bribery!" "any sporty 600 will trounce it in the twisties, a 900SS is a better handler and an R1150R is a much more sophisticated and refined machine." -cross reference any of these points with what I love about women, and I'll still take the small town Italian girl.

Your bike is the closest thing I've seen to your requirements, 'for sale' for quite some time. As far as your shipper, don't know who it is but even 'Haul Bikes', who I've had experience, juggles drivers like a roulette wheel to get one to pick the thing up. I had one whine to me on the phone about a pick up on a Saturday "everybody want's Saturday"... I'm like, yeah. From scheduling, it was over 3 weeks to pick up.

(sorry for the drift Kane. This probably belongs in 'adv bikes' ...) I will have to agree with you. The biggest and best enduro single, and the closest thing. In the socal tapestry of on/off road availability I'm sure I'd own one by now. In my neck of the woods the "on road" percentage goes up considerably. I'm still dreaming for a twin. The Africa Twin is ridiculous huge. The orange 790 had promise but again, why so heavy? Not to mention KTM's "quirks". The closest thing to my fantasy at the moment is the Tenere 700. But, it's only a dozen pounds lighter than my FJ09 which has a three cyl "sister" motor to the 700's twin. The older I get the lighter I want. May have to settle....

I have ridden three that I was considering for purchase. I was really hard pressed to find one about 2 years back. I only considered used because Ducati wants too much for anything new. A good friend said I should ride his 2015 FJ09 and after, I couldn't resist buying one. That ended my hypermotard pursuit. Oddly enough, I was online late last evening perusing the market once again. I was only eying the 821 11-degree Testastretta which is liquid-cooled, with wet clutch. 110hp and 400lb. Great reviews on this motor. The '09 1100 is the Multistrada engine, and air cooled and dry? clutch. Great motor as well. Riding I found them as you did, really fun and "perched" over the front wheel. I'm sure I would have got over it had I ridden it longer and fully accepted that it was a dirt bike built for the street. My interest started with a pursuit for the ideal lightweight, do it all, check all the boxes bike. "That" bike in my imagination is fighting a losing battle with physics, unfortunately. Gotta give up something, right? With the FJ I gave up the killer looks and added 60lb over the Duc. In return I got 5hp, comfort, the perch of a normal standard motorcycle, Japanese dependability, and low maintenance. If another 821 or 950 comes up for sale near me I'll be checking it out.

What Scud says. I also have the RAM single, it's an easy 2 finger pull. And I have arthritis in that hand. How does the Cafe feel compared to the 78? Isn't that one a cable?

Some pre ride Ju-Ju? Can't fault you a bit.

thanks for adding that to my vocabulary Bill. It will come in useful.

I have one long and one short frame. They are unique enough to own them both, especially with the long frame being LeMans bodied. I'm not competitive and don't pay much attention regarding negative or positive handling details that change lap times by seconds. I do know what I like however and I like them both, for the same reasons but on varying roads. Whats clear to me is that when the road gets tight and twisty the red frame is more in it's natural setting. Sweepers are my favorite roads because I can go faster safer and enjoy the view somewhat as well. The LeMans is at home here and honestly the rewards are greater. I suppose it comes down to a rider's style. You can't rate a bike without the human.

you've already answered it

Love that clip. thanks. Not sure what made me buy a new one in 76 but likely because it would smoke the 750 Honda my buddy had

ok I have some more.... It's a fair reach across the tank. I'm 6'0" and it's perfect for me but noticeably further than bikes of my experience. I like the feeling of laying into it somewhat. The look over the bars has no match. No crotch rocket bend in my back. Stretched out with superbly positioned foot rests and easily adjusted controls. Some don't like it but I'm still pretty limber and am quite comfortable. Trans shifting is smooth once broken in (the bike AND you). From starting out, neutral to first may take a double clutch. 1st to 2nd is the least friendly. Keep the revs up and the toe off the peg prior to a positive shift. There are shifting 'upgrades' available to perform once you get to that point.