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I think you're right about the common parts between the 5 speed RAM and the 6 speed RAM Scud. However, the clutch button on the 5 speed is of a smaller diameter. The one from the original single plater on my Tenni was stamped RAM and may be interchangeable: you'd have to take the 'ready assembled' RAM unit apart. As far as pushrod length goes, my original from the single plater worked with the twin plater. I put some photos of the different clutch hubs on a thread. I think the original single plate hub was the same size externally as the one I looked at from a RAM 5 speed, but the 5 speed RAM hub has a different splined centre. The clutch hub socket is available in a few places. I got mine from Gutsibits. Simon Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

I was surprised at the negative effect on running of putting a slightly larger 'o' ring on the timing sensor. There are shims to get the distance correct. Maybe someone had fiddled with these.

These photos from someone else helped me.

Another option is to squeeze the bottom of each spring so that it grips onto the inner part of the spring seat. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Clutch pushrod 01 08 57 30 The pushrod from the original single plate clutch (Tenni and Scura) is 203mm long and 8mm in diameter. On the gearbox side the pushrod has a shoulder 5mm from the end and the diameter at the gearbox end is 6mm. For me this works with the twin plate clutch and steel flywheel. I originally ordered a RAM clutch. I was wrongly supplied with a RAM clutch/flywheel for a 5 speed. I did fit it to the engine and was ready to refit the gearbox when I checked the clutch button and it was a smaller diameter (maybe 6mm). Did you check the size/fit of the pushrod/clutch button when fitting the RAM clutch?

Many thanks for the offer Scud. If there is a difference in rod length between the single plate and dual plate clutches this might explain things (though I think it's the other way round - too long a rod would explain my symptoms). Trouble is though, it's a big-ish job to get the push-rod out to measure it, and at the moment I'd rather be riding my bike than pulling it to pieces. So I think I'll save that job till next winter, and carry on with my bodge-fix for now. Cheers, PhilI swapped the original single plate for a dual plate and the pushrod is the same length. Can't remember the length, but I noted it down in an earlier thread. The diaphragm spring in the original (single plate) clutch is stamped Ram. I know the diameter of the pushrod is narrower on the Ram replacement for a 5 speed. I was supplied a 5 speed Ram in error and I think it would have worked if I'd taken it apart and swapped the diaphragm spring for the one from the original single plate clutch. Is it possible that the pushrod isn't seating as it should? Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

That's the wrong co. They're made by an engineering company in Italy. They do have a website. They also work on car engines. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Hi. Congratulations on the new bike. I went through the same process and started a thread: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19010-Replacement-Clutch-for-a-Tenni Regards Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Do not give up Scud! Could this tip be something for you? Gawa Guzzi is a serious company. Further down the page is a kit for single-plate clutch (GG2193300 - V11 6 Gang €580). http://www.gawa-guzzi.de/antrieb.html That looks like the original single plate clutch, including the flywheel, which is the problem. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

You haven't by any chance disturbed the timing sensor recently have you? If this is slightly out of position it can cause back-firing and uneven running at low revs. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

I think mine is number 16 rather than no 17. It came from Aberdeen. Number 17 was recently up for sale on Ebay. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

I've had a short run with the new clutch and all seems well. In fact, it doesn't feel that different with a two plate clutch. If there is an easy way to reunite the engine with the gearbox, I didn't discover it. Only other issue was caused by using a slightly oversize 'o' ring on the crank sensor during some engine out maintenance. It wouldn't run below 3000 rpm until I replaced it with the original. I've missed the roar and I'm pleased it's up and running again. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

what's this crazy talk?? Paint does not make a Tenni. Haha... in addition to paint, it needs: A number plate on the top triple clamp Two seats (exclusive brown suede and standard black) A lightweight aluminum flywheel, with single-plate clutch Some unobtainable paperwork or certificate from Moto Guzzi The rest is the same as a 2002 LeMans - or did I miss something? Too bad MG didn't put Ohlins on the Tennis.Is there anyway to verify it's a Tenni by the serial number? You can enter the frame number on the Piaggio website and it tells you the model. Mine hasn't got a numbered plate on the top clamp, but the frame number checked out. I think it's number 16, as it came from Scotland. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

I put the clutch together . Lined up the new flywheel with the arrow aiming at the 'tit'. I fastened the flywheel bolts with loctite 243 and new schnorr washers to 42Nm. I canted the motor forward to put the pressure plate and springs in place. The dot on a tooth has to line up with the arrow on the flywheel. I then compressed the springs with the new clutch hub using a M12 1.5 bolt and nut. Bolt was 110mm long. Then fitted friction plate, intermediate plate, another friction plate, then the starter ring. Pete Roper's article on Greg Bender's site was really useful. I just followed the instructions. I thought the photos might be useful to anyone about to do this job. Simon Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

Probably around £400 for second hand and new parts combined. I don't know if this is standard, cheap or expensive. I couldn't get the RAM clutch kit and second hand clutch parts aren't easy to find. All new parts are £1500. Availability may be different in the USA. Sent from my GT-I8190N using Tapatalk

The parts needed are listed elsewhere. I got a used flywheel, pressure plate and starter ring. The rest is new.

Well, I've got the parts. Used the old flywheel to position engine at L/H TDC, ready to install twin plate steel flywheel. Still missing some fasteners, which I've ordered. Once they arrive, I should be able to fit it.