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The bars are solid from the inboard end to a little bit past where they exit the bar-clamp. They are hollow (but thick walled) from that point on - to the threaded ends that accept the stock bar-end weights. Even heated, I needed a lot of force to straighten them. I used a floor-jack handle over the bench-vise handle for extra leverage. Had to push them a little past straight to get them to release straight (that's why I put the angle brackets in the vise). I thought about going to a machine shop - maybe have a few sets made up at one time. Fabrication of something like these is outside my current skills (and I don't have any machine tools). Maybe it's a low demand item, but it seems there could be a little business opportunity for someone to make these. I mentioned it to a guy at Harper's Moto Guzzi today when I ordered the billet shift lever that they manufacture.
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Some people should just not be allowed to work on motorcycles. Let's observe the mental process of one such previous owner: "Think I'll do something under the seat today. How about take out the fuse box screws for no reason? Ok, that was fun, now let's put them back in. Gosh, this one sure is tight. Better push down harder. Oh, the allen wrench keeps slipping, maybe I should use the cordless drill to screw it in. OK press down super hard so it goes in. Well, look at that, the screw head is totally rounded out, the fuse box is broken, and the frame tab is bent so far that the paint cracked. Well, got her in real good, cross-threaded for extra tightness. I am such a good mechanic... what should I do next?" Now, in all fairness, the blame may fall on a factory worker too - it could have been that way all along. But there are enough of these little bodge-ups that my bet is on one of the previous owners. All this I learned because I was trying to pre-solve the 30-amp fuse problem. Lucky for me, I have a complete and perfect fuse box on my e-bay "for parts only" wiring harness - and it even has a mounting screw. Looking for something useful? Try the Electrics Overhaul thread.
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Topic: 30 Amp fuse Purpose: to confirm my understanding, and hopefully clarify for anyone else who might be confused Problem: the stock 30 amp fuse contacts are too small (which causes bad electrical things to happen). Therefore, they should be replaced with a manly-man fuse holder. This is not an additional fuse; it is a replacement. Solution: Remove red wire and pair of green wires that terminate at the 30 amp location in the fuse box (as shown removed in photo). Splice in the manly-man fuse holder and locate it nearby. Question: Is the above correct?
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The rear spring is easy to adjust with the battery and tray out - six bolts, easy, not a PITA. I just reinstalled the OEM spring on my LeMans and set it to factory spec (152 mm) by adjusting the collar nuts. It's also useful to have the special tool for the big collar nuts on the base of the shock. But it'll be a while till I can put it all back together and measure sag. If you are carrying so much weight, you should check front and rear sag: Step 1 - measure with both wheels off the ground Step 2 - measure with bike upright and full (packed) luggage Step 3 - measure as 2, but now add yourself with all riding gear Obviously, you need a helper for all this. The differences between these measurements will tell you if you are operating within spec (there are pictures in the manual and ranges. Let's assume you do the measurements and they indicate that the bike is sagging more (dropping lower) than spec. Then you increase preload until it sags less and is within range. As a point of comparison, when I first measured my Scura it was dropping way too much at the front and the rear was at one of the limits of the specified range. Adjusting the front also brought the rear back into the middle of the range. The key to this whole process is to measure the current state first. Then you won't have to guess or experiment, the measurements will indicate the remedy. If adjusting preload does not bring it within range, then you need to spring for a spring (good thing it's spring-time). Alternatively, you might be able to get in range if you carry less stuff. After I set sag correctly, I turned the damper completely off and it was rock-solid stable. BTW - I'm still learning suspension - but I experienced such an amazing transformation of my bike's handling that am feeling a bit evangelical about it. I hope I said it all correctly, and I hope GuzziMoto corrects me if I did not.
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You won't need any kind of special brush. Everything comes apart. Even the glass lens can be detached from the chrome-plastic inner piece (4 plastic tabs that snap in place - to remove you need to pry them back gently).
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I've been having a hard time finding new bars for the clip-ons, but I had a set of bent, stock bars. So I decided to try to straighten them out. I heated them in the oven, then worked them in a large vise with some metal brackets positioned so I could apply pressure to the most noticeably bent section. Here are some before, during, and after pictures. I'd still be happy to buy a pair of used or reproduction half-bars, but at least I got to remove the PO's home-made bar riser setup. The end result is not perfectly straight; they still have a little wobble when rolled on a flat surface. However, they are straight enough to use until I can find a different set - and I can use the stock bar-end weights. Here's the before pic: Here's how I clamped the warm bars in a vise And here's the end result.
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remove phillips head screw from bottom of black headlight bucket slide light assembly out of housing remove parking light (twist) remove headlight bulb (spring clamp under rubber boot) remove entire assembly from bike, place glass-down on something soft release pressure on four plastic tabs under chrome trim ring - I needed a flat blade screwdriver to do this remove trim ring and glass lens clean and reassemble 10 minute job. Have fun - and be careful of the plastic tabs. Mine had a black spot on the plasti-chrome that I was trying to remove, but it seems the finish is damaged. Bummer. Has anyone ever used this chrome spray paint?
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The rear axle needed a little more persuasion on the way out than it did on the way back in. I should have taken a mid-process picture. My brothers-in-law and nephews set up chairs in the garage to watch and BS - looked pretty funny. Couldn't have got the stock spring back on without them - and they all want to ride it soon. Meanwhile, the women were enjoying Easter Sunday sunshine in the back yard.
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I ordered four speedhut gauges: tach, GPS speedo, oil pressure, voltmeter. $460 for all four. Tach and speedo were $320. They had 15% off for March Madness. Roy - Thanks for linking to your install thread; that will come in handy.
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Been chipping away at the project, including few hours today: Degreased – 30 minute soak in Simple Green, spray down with water. Then another soak/clean-up with silicon spray, which brought the dingy gray engine cases, swingarm, and other parts back to a nice, rich black - also great for the wiring harness. Main ground and starter connections cleaned and protected with cocoa-butter scented petroleum jelly Stock spring re-installed and set to factory spec, which raised the rear of the bike noticeably. Rear wheel off, freed caliper so it does not drag, bled clutch, clean, lube, etc. (maintenance checklist) Next up – remove front wheel – which should clean up as nicely as the rear. Bought a wiring harness on e-bay for $15. Needed some connectors, caps, etc. It’s also nice to have a complete harness on the ground to see how things are laid out – since I have decided to learn more about wiring. Discovered lots of “previous owner secrets” – won’t go into all the details, but my favorite was the use of a garden hose washer in place of a vibration damper. Cheap and effective… but not going back in during reassembly. While I have almost all the main stock parts, I’m missing a number of fasteners. The HarperMoto website is amazing. I hadn’t used that before – detailed parts diagrams with part numbers and prices. So helpful.
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Loose, Rattling Front Crossover on 2003 V11 LeMans
Scud replied to Rhino1's topic in Technical Topics
Thanks for this timely topic. Yesterday, I removed the entire exhaust from my '03. I'm going to take it to a shop and see if they can do the patchwork. It's not going to be in a very visible spot, so I'll probably put it back on without any coating. A weld will still look better (and be less likely to cause a problem) than the crossover. Cheap, easy, more reliable, less weight... what's not to like? -
Here's a video. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it looks doable for a guy with your skills. The guy in the video replaced the stock Aprilia seals with Suzuki ones. My opinion - since you invested in the Ohlins, I suggest that you only put Ohlins parts and oils in there. You might also call Kyle Racing in Monterey, CA. I bought the special 4-prong fork nut tool from them. I think there is also a special tool for installing fork seals as well (which the guy in the video didn't use). I think a chat with Kyle racing could help you decide whether send the forks to them or DIY.
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Forum Member Will Need a Sidecar
Scud replied to JRD's topic in Special place for banter and conversation
Girls are great. My wife and I have three. The father-daughter relationship is truly special. I just wish I was as strong and smart as they think I am. I also keep three Italian-made motorcycles in the garage. Coincidence? -
Loose, Rattling Front Crossover on 2003 V11 LeMans
Scud replied to Rhino1's topic in Technical Topics
You could hide the welds with Coca-Cola cans and hose clamps. That would look nice with the Rossa Corsa. Seriously though, a good shop should be able to make a new crossover... unless the break is at the mount. If do you have to get it welded, you could wrap between the down-tubes with ceramic header tape (black tape might make it visually disappear). -
Loose, Rattling Front Crossover on 2003 V11 LeMans
Scud replied to Rhino1's topic in Technical Topics
Have you tried taking the bike to an exhaust fabricator? They might be able to work up something for you to replace or eliminate the front crossover. -
Thanks Docc. I'm going to follow the handy checklists: Wheels off maintenance checklist - The rear brake is dragging a bit, which accounts for the wear I noticed. Apparently, this is a common problem if maintenance is neglected. New pads on order. Tank off maintenance checklist ...and tuning after it's all cleaned up and reassembled. That should give me a fresh start with the bike.
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Thanks for additional ideas. I've got the bike partway disassembled at the moment. After I clean it up, I'm going to put the stock airbox back on and go through the whole tuning procedure. The air sensor had been relocated between the cylinders. I will also install a new oil pressure switch. We'll see how she goes after all that.
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Robin Trower and I stripped the bike a bit this evening to get it ready for a deep-cleaning and new gauges. Also flushed the nasty front brake fluid. BTW - I've read a number of posts in which people mention how hard it is to remove the quick-connectors from the 2003+ fuel tank. I found that an 8 or 9 mm open-end wrench fits over the tube and provides enough leverage to get the connector moving. Easy-peasy, hope it helps. Also dropped by the powder coater at lunch time to pick up several powder coated sample washers in interesting possible colors....... I like one that is about the same grayish-bronze as the Moto Guzzi logo on the tank. That could work for a bunch of small parts.
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@FalcoLion - thanks for the dealer tip. I spent some time on the phone with a guy at HarperMoto today - super helpful and he was able to find some of the parts I want. He is going to try to find some other parts for me (the handle bar tube looks like it might be a challenge). I'll check Pro Italia too. My local shop is GP Motorcycles - good people. I assume you mean Pazzo Racing for the levers. I wanted to put short levers on my Scura - ordered some aftermarket ones and was so dissatisfied that I returned them. I just sent an inquiry to Pazzo, they don't list the V11 Sports on their "select your bike" list.
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First little batch of questions: The bike has an Odyssey drycell battery. I know it's supposed to have an AGM type of battery. Is this drycell OK to keep in there for a while longer or is it likely to cause problems? I need a few parts that I have not been able to find. I already posted this in the classifieds/wanted. But if anyone has one of these items or knows where I can find a used one, I'd be much obliged: Gear shift lever and pivot bolt (through porkchop, through lever, to tab on frame). The lever I have was welded and the pivot bolt is slightly bent so it won't thread back into the frame-tab correctly. (I did find a billet lever for $159 at Harper Moto) Rear brake lever return stopper - the cylindrical bit that keeps the brake pedal from bouncing up. Sidestand - ideally with switch and wire, but just the stand is fine too. The sidestand on the bike was shortened a bit and I'm concerned it will lean too far when I restore the original ride height. Clutch hand lever - (I know I can get a new one from MG Cycle) Left-hand handlebar tube - for clip-ons. Also feel free to post links if you know where to purchase any of these items. Edit - all parts procured.
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I'd love to join for at least part of the way, schedule permitting. Let me know when you're headed this way. You should go to Mexico too, then it will be a Mexico to Canada ride, eh? Tacos in Tecate and Beaver Tails in BC. I hope you won't mind that I removed all these parts from the foot controls and put the foot pegs, rear brake lever, rear brake master cylinder and fluid tank back where they belong.
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That's what I should have said. I was new to suspension settings and getting the pre-load set correctly made the biggest positive improvement. I was fortunate that the sag could be set within correct specs for my weight (with all riding gear) by adding pre-load; therefore I did not need different springs to get correct sag. The results of these sag measurements will tell you if you should consider different springs. If you want to read my newby-DIY experience and benefit from all the great advice I got along the way, it starts at the middle of page 5 (post 68) of my thread Brand New Scura and goes for a few pages. Post 70 has a picture of how to measure sag. It's for Ohlins, but there should be a similar page in the manual for the Marzocchi.
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Edited - all items procured. Does anybody have any of the following (in good condition) that you would be willing to part with for a fair price: Gear shift lever and pivot bolt (through porkchop, through lever, to tab on frame) - found used form forum member (thank-you) Sidestand - ideally with switch and wire, but just the stand is fine too - bought new from Harper's Clutch hand lever - I will also buy a pair of levers, but just need the clutch - bought aftermarket Left-hand handlebar tube - for clip-ons. As with above, I'd buy a pair, but I only need a left. - figured out how to straighten - not needed Circular cam on RH porkchop that stops the brake pedal from coming up too far. - bought new from Harper's Please send me a PM if you do - or if you know where to find a used part.
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What I've done so far: I had an issue a couple days ago (which I wrote about in another thread) - I had plugged in the oil temperature sensor, which had been disconnected. At hiccuping low idle, the oil light flashed on (and off at normal idle). Based on some helpful suggestions, I did an oil change, dropped the sump, and cleaned the screen. The screen was clear, oil appeared in decent condition. But there was a CarQuest oil filter (glad that's gone...). I used 10w-40 Maxima synthetic (although the manual specifies 5w-40) and a correct UNI filter. After the oil change, the oil light went out almost instantly when I started the bike. However, it does flash on if the idle drops below 1,000 RPM - I adjusted the idle up - maybe 1,200 or 1,300 - and the light stayed out. I'm not going to ride it again till I figure out if I have a bad oil pressure sensor or another problem. It will also need a proper tune-up following re-installation of the stock airbox. I ordered a set of gauges from Speedhut: GPS Speedo, Tach, Oil Pressure, Voltmeter. I figure I can find somewhere to mount the oil and volt gauges behind the fairing. Interesting that the 2003 dash (compared to 2002) gives a second turn indicator at the expense of a warning light for the charging system (I wouldn't make that trade). BTW - all guages are 15% off at Speedhut through the end of March.
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I think I’m the 3rd owner and I plan to use this bike as a commuter, tourer, and guest-bike. But it needs some TLC first. I’ll probably put most of the stock parts back on while sorting out the functional issues – and I think a few modifications are in order, maybe some shiny things... Feel free to make suggestions, observations, jokes, music recommendations, etc. This should be a fun project. Here’s my assessment of the current situation: The good: Strong running, crisp shifting, almost everything works. A big box of almost all stock parts that were removed. Minimal wear on seat, grips, and front brake rotors supports a low-mileage claim (odometer broken at about 5,000, PO estimates that actual mileage is less than 10,000). Should clean up nicely – it’s kind of greasy now. Moto Guzzi Kit Racing ECU and Titanium cans. It’s a growler. The bad (or not my preference): Unfortunately, the cans were cut down a few inches and are a little beat up (oh, but they sound nice...). I didn’t figure out that the bike had been down till I got it home. I missed the tell-tale flat spot on the clutch lever ball, and the welded shift lever in the spare parts box. I think it was just a low-speed spill on the left. (PO says he didn't lay it down, so must have been earlier.) Altered riding position/controls (all to fit PO’s preferences for more upright riding position - and quite comfy if you like sitting upright)Bars raised and pushed back. This required rerouting of cables and hoses. Footpegs and controls moved forward and lower, which also involved relocation of shock reservoir, brake reservoir, removal of starter cover, and maybe some other surprises. Rear lowered about 2 inches (compared to my Scura) with shorter aftermarket spring in rear (fork tubes also raised a bit in triple clamps) Sidestand ground shorter (I guess it was too upright after the rear was lowered Stickers on paint (already removed): only one was covering a poorly retouched scratch (on the front fender). Clutch and side-stand switches missing. (Wouldn’t it be ironic if one of these was the cause of the crash?) K&N pods installed – and although it runs well, it does not appear to have been tuned correctly (oil temp sensor disconnected as a “cheat”). Rear brake rotor is grooved, pads are thin, fluid was low – suggesting a habit of using mostly the rear brake. Some creative wiring. (My weakest area...time to start learning.) Here are some "as purchased" pics: