94-97 1100 sport to buy

[turo]

Now that I am totally in love with my 2003 Rosso Corsa, I have my sights on a 1100m sport from the late 90's. I was looking for a un-molested version yet have been able to find on. There is one posted on ebay and after writing the very nice owner, I got some more information. What I'd like is some feedback on the information supplied and any other buying suggestions from anyone who has knowledge of these bikes!

Thanks in advance!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

 

 

I do not have the original exhaust, but I do have original crossover. A hugger is an extra fender over the rear wheel. Its common knowledge that the OEM air box does not get enough air to the carbs. Thats why you see these bikes with the K@Ns - I did not like the way that looked so I took the worthless airbox and cut it so that it is completly hollow inside. Now the bike has the K@Ns and the good looks! Only the break lever was changed - it cost $ 275 - its great! Convertibars are after market handlebars - they brought the bars up and back, to be more comfort.All the bikes that came to the US came with a horrible looking square headlight - I always thought the european front end was great looking. I bought the front fiberglass part off ebay from the UK. In 97 the sport came with a front end upgrade - upsidedown WP forks - I wanted them!! Looked better to! The OEM rubber intake sleeves are too soft - the entire carb would move when you gave it gas. These are hard plastic $100 looked better too. The jetting is perfect for nashville - if you live on the coast you will need to change them - there are plenty. It was blue when I bought it - After about six years I wanted a new color! The axle on the 97 forks is bigger - so I just bought the wheel that went with it. So you can buy different bearings for the old wheel.

Before you buy a 1100 sport know that the 94s and 95s had a lot of production problems. The 97s and up had a lot of problems with there chips. There is a guy here in nashville with a 97 sport - he said his battery was low and he tried to start it and it fried his computer - ECU etc..! Anyway this is why the 96 modle is the best! Its also the last year or the air heads - the 97s have an oil cooler. Hope this helps!

Thanks,

Bruce

[callison]

I would stick with a 97 and look for one that hasn't had as many "improvements" as this one has.

[Alex-Corsa]

Also from some point after and I think this is for all the 97 ^ 98 models there was a helical gear box that's better than the previous gear box of the early 96 injection models.

As far as the chip goes over there in US I guess problem are solved with the Will Creedon chip.

I have developed my chip cause the previous mentioned wasn't that good for my set up over here in Europe. Either to rich or not rich enough in some points. But I don;t think it would be OK for U.S. users, with different gas ocatanes and so on over there.

[callison]

But I don't think it would be OK for U.S. users, with different gas octanes and so on over there.

 

That's sure the truth! I went to Denmark in 1986 and the regular grade gas there was about two points higher in octane the highest premium in the USA! We have cruddy gas in the USA for sure. There's something like 22 different blends throughout the USA to accomodate different climates, altitudes and local environmental laws. California is the worst with their gas formulated to reduce emissions but getting a fair percentage fewer miles per gallon resulting in the more gas being burned to make up for it and the pollutants not really being reduced all that much. But for that "privilige", Californians get to pay an average of $.70 more per gallon than I do where I'm at now. California is weird, they've even managed to mandate a specific grade of milk such that milk costs about a dollar more per gallon than it's really worth. There's no knocking the great motorcycle rides in that state, food, fabulous parks and scenery nor the mild weather, but nearly everything else in the great state of California sucks massively.

[raz]

Now that I am totally in love with my 2003 Rosso Corsa, I have my sights on a 1100m sport from the late 90's. I was looking for a un-molested version yet have been able to find on. There is one posted on ebay and after writing the very nice owner, I got some more information. What I'd like is some feedback on the information supplied and any other buying suggestions from anyone who has knowledge of these bikes!

Thanks in advance!

It depends on what you want from it. In my optinion, having the injected model isn't that important, it even has some drawbacks (if it should ever get fried for whatever reason, you are really stuck). The inverted fork is more important to me (just for the looks if nothing else). I agree the smaller headlight is much nicer. The hugger is a Good Thing[tm] for protecting the rear suspension, I payed 240 EUR for mine. I don't see any particular problems with the mods unless you're the Everything Original type of guy. Though I don't understand why he wrecked the airbox. I have no idea if the price is right. 14,000 miles seems really low, I would try to verify that.

 

 

You are not selling the Rosso Corsa, right? That would be wierd 'cos it's currently the only model I like more than the 1100 Sport!

[Alex-Corsa]

It depends on what you want from it. In my optinion, having the injected model isn't that important, it even has some drawbacks (if it should ever get fried for whatever reason, you are really stuck).

 

The only thing you're most likelly to fry in that 1100i ECU (16IAW) is the chip, so having an extra amd replace it, will solve that situation. I ussually have 1 or 2 extras always with.

[Guest ratchethack]

There's no knocking the great motorcycle rides in that state, food, fabulous parks and scenery nor the mild weather, but nearly everything else in the great state of California sucks massively.

Sounds like you worked out some well-reasoned justifications f'er y'er move, Carl.

 

I'm probably about a half-step behind you. The inmates that seized control of the asylum in Sacramento have long ago reached critical mass. They've figured out that their triumphal achievement of a sufficiently dumbed-down electorate is a perfect foundation for ensuring their dream of a massively corrupt Socialist Nanny State That Cannot Be Stopped, and have evidently modeled our future on the narco-kleptocracy of Mexico. The Governator couldn't beat 'em, so now he's joined 'em. So once again, we have a State run black market cash laundering and distribution infrastructure that looks a whole lot like a return to the "glory days" of the Pay-to-Play influence peddling machine of Gray Davis, complete with its juggernaut ballooning government bureaucracies, runaway spending, and welcome mat/clanging dinner bell f'er the indegent chaff and unconvicted and/or escaped criminals of the entire 3rd World. It appears that a state supported 15th-century agrarian village serfdom is well on its way, right along with the centuries-old foreign (anti-US goes without saying) cultures that come along with it's people. Next Sacramento will be rolling-out their own version of the Soviet-style 5-year Plans that historically collapsed under their own massive unsupportability every time within the first 6 months.

 

Here on The Border, the situation is much the same as in Texas, where we have armed and uniformed Mexican Federales transporting drug caravans across every day into our county. Our "Border Patrol" here in San Diego County is now instructed internally on HOW TO SURRENDER WITHOUT A SHOT to Mexican Federales and/or armed "mules" as a standard operating procedure whenever encountering armed smuggling activity in-process -- on THE US SIDE of the border. Texas has two Border Patrol Agents in jail today (Ramos and Compean http://ramos-compean.blogspot.com/2006/12/...hat-really.html ) now serving 10 and 11 year sentences, who have been railroaded in court and largely silenced for having committed the "crime" of shooting the perpetrator following an armed confrontation in which Compean was stabbed by the perp, a many-times convicted illegal alien drug smuggler, while the perp was in the act of transporting 700 lbs. of drugs into the US while ON THE US SIDE of the border. The Mexican Federales THEMSELVES make use of legal assistance HERE IN THE US to represent themselves and the "mules". With the help of the US "legal system", THEY ALWAYS WIN IN OUR COURTS, and are set free to resume smuggling within a few days of release, which, of course they take full advantage of. Of course, Dubya and The Governator are both AWOL on this, and it's been largely covered-up and/or white-washed and/or minimized in the mainstream media.

 

Business flight out of the state has devastated the economy here for 20 years now and this has taken a heavy toll. Our tax base is continuing to drain away at an alarming rate -- entirely unchecked. I've taken wrong turns in LA and found myself on streets where once neat and clean suburban neighborhoods stretched out for miles with sidewalks and nice lawns. Now their filthy streets are studded with hulks of burned out cars and rows of corn are planted in front yards with goats on tethers and chickens roosting in open window frames without windows. Ever need to do business in a bank on welfare check day in LA? I have. In EVERY SINGLE BANK in some of these large "communities", the lines extend outside literally for blocks, and NO ONE is speaking English -- on either side of the counter inside the bank. We'll likely become the first state to become a Bananna Republik and be forced to secede from the Union. . . .

 

You folks in other states think this sounds pretty bad? We're The Bellwether state, my friends. This is on its way to a neighborhood near YOU.

 

Think I'll go f'er a ride while we've got a few mountain roads left that're still in half-way decent shape.

[Guest Mattress]

Business flight out of the state has devastated the economy here for 20 years now and this has taken a heavy toll. We're continuing to lose much of our tax base at an alarming rate -- entirely unchecked. I've taken wrong turns in LA and found myself on streets where once suburban neighborhoods with sidewalks and lawns now have rows of corn planted in postage-stamp sized front yards with goats on tethers and chickens roosting in open window frames without windows. Ever need to do business in a bank on welfare check day in LA? I have. In EVERY SINGLE BANK in some of these large "communities", the lines extend outside literally for blocks, and NO ONE is speaking English -- on either side of the counter inside the bank. We'll likely become the first state to become a Bananna Republik and be forced to secede from the Union. . . .

 

You folks in other states think this sounds pretty bad? We're The Bellwether state, my friends. This is on its way to a neighborhood near YOU.

 

Think I'll go f'er a ride while we've got a few mountain roads left that're still in half-way decent shape.

 

You west coasters might like to think you're the bellwether state, but the rot started in the midwest and industrial heartland.

 

Folks, I don't know what the rest of you all do 9-5, but one reason this country rose up in the 1900s as a world force was the industrial revolution. Agrarian activities could not produce wealth as fast. And U.S. manufacturing rose in prominence.

 

But since the mid 90s, factories have been closing up left and right, not just in the auto industry. Since we can't accept working for slave wages in a polluted community, we let low cost countries build our shit now.

 

Whole factories of tooling are being sent overseas to be re-erected in Asia and S. America. Everyday we are losing valuable knowledge and resources in manufacturing.

 

How will we ever be able to tool-up again for the coming armed conflict when King George and his Redcoats return?

[mojohand]

here's a great '96 Sport 1100:

 

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/mcy/269927088.html

 

I test-rode it (nice owner!). Strong, powerful, and well-thought-out. It just didn't fit me, so I passed. But I thought it was a quite good deal. check it out....

[turo]

Thanks for everyones input. I very much appreciate it.

So what I have gathered so far is; the 94,95 and 96 modles were carbed bikes, 97, 98 and 99 versions, fuel injected. Those injected models also had a better gearbox and fork set up. The ECU chip seems to be a point of failure, which is one of the prices that needs to be paid for the better front end and gearbox! Is there a "fix" for this chip issue? Is there a comparable web source for 1100 Sports out there on the web likes this V!! site?

Thanks again for all the input!

[jenslh]

Thanks for everyones input. I very much appreciate it.

So what I have gathered so far is; the 94,95 and 96 modles were carbed bikes, 97, 98 and 99 versions, fuel injected. Those injected models also had a better gearbox and fork set up. The ECU chip seems to be a point of failure, which is one of the prices that needs to be paid for the better front end and gearbox! Is there a "fix" for this chip issue? Is there a comparable web source for 1100 Sports out there on the web likes this V!! site?

Thanks again for all the input!

 

Please note that only the late half of the fuel injected sporti's had the upgraded helical cut gearbox (somebody out there posted the gearbox number where the change took place). My own 1100 sport is a 97 model and have the (weak) straight cut box.

 

Its "only" the 5th gear that self-destroys, and you can swap the two gear wheels with the helical ones (Did it on my own bike). When the box is open anyway, take the time to shim up the shifting drum properly.

 

Pictures and description on my own mods here: http://www.guzzitech.dk/10/1100%20Sport/1100Sport_e.htm

 

/Jens

http://www.guzzitech.dk/english

[Paul Minnaert]

gearboxes starting from CF011500 and CL011200 are helical cut.

[raz]

The ECU chip seems to be a point of failure, which is one of the prices that needs to be paid for the better front end and gearbox! Is there a "fix" for this chip issue? Is there a comparable web source for 1100 Sports out there on the web likes this V!! site?

Thanks again for all the input!

 

There seems to be a problem running with a very bad battery. It will result in too high voltage from the regulator as it needs the battery for good regulation. A bad ground connection can lead to a similar problem. The fixes:

• Run a separate grounding wire between regulator and engine
  
• If battery is dead, charge it. Do not try jump-starting etc.
  
• Mount a Transil Diode that will protect the ECU by surging too high voltages so the fuse blows instead of some chip in the ECU
  

Having said that, I don't think the ECU chip is a very common failure. My point was that if it should happen, you are much more stuck than if you get some dirt in a carburettor.

[Murray]

There was a quick fix for the injected sports in the event of an overvoltage on the US Guzzi tech site about $5 in parts one of the voltage regulators for the electronics tended to die. As to the striaght cut gearboxes been weak I'm not so sure about that mine had a major rebuild early on as it had been full of water at aome stage (we suspect possibly at the facotry) but the gearbox has done around 80 000kms plus since with no drama's (we didn't replace fifth with helical cut gears). The inject bikes also have a cush drive rear which the carbed machines didn't after riding a couple of Daytona RS's which had the striaght cut gearbox withthe cush drive this makes a signifacant difference to its operation.

 

When I bought my bike there was still a significant difference in price between the inject bikes and the carbed. Now if I was buying I would lean towards and injected one (prefably a Corsa) and talk to cliff nicely about fitting one of his ECU's. If you do decided to get a carbed machine try and find one with an after market exhaust and FCR flatsildes as these make a signifcant difference in how they go. Ideally you need one thats been ridden enough to be sorted as they had quiet a few more issues stock than the V11's the V11's were probally one of the first Guzzi's in that period you could simply just ride as is. The carbed 1100 sports were definatly not. The brakes on the carbed 1100 sport tend to go away after a couple of hard laps at the track too the injected ones are supposed to be better.

[callison]

Now that I am totally in love with my 2003 Rosso Corsa, I have my sights on a 1100m sport from the late 90's. I was looking for a un-molested version yet have been able to find on.

Thanks,

Bruce

 

Well, I'd be happy to sell you my Sporti for $3500 but it's pretty well molested in some senses.