Champion oil filter (?)

[antonio carroccio]

...one of these will be very handy for those filters...

 

eBay #160196273574

[pete roper]

Dimitris, on the V11 you *can* swap out the oil filter without taking off the sump. There is a round, (about 130mm?) diameter plate in the botom of the sump with a 27mm hex in the middle of it. this is commonly known as the 'Manhole', a slang term from england for the plates they put over access holes to sewers . It has a VERY fine pitched thread on it and is easy to cross-thread on re-installation.

 

Once that is off you need to have a suitable filter wrench to get the fiter off. There are many types but you WON'T be able to unscrew it from the bottom with your fingers, or you shouldn't be able to.

 

Far easier is to drain the oil and actually drop the sump plate by undoing the 14 or 16, (can't remember.) bolts around the outside of the sump itself and dropping it off. this allows you to accest the filter easily and you can use a conventional strap or filter wrench to get it off and re-install the new one. Buy a new sump gasket along with the filter. You probably won't need it but having it handy means you won't get stuck if the original does rip.

 

Whether you fit a clamp or not is up to you. If you do you butt its screw mechanism up against some part of the pick-up/thermostat housing so that if the filter *does* try to unwind itself then the clamp screw will prevent it from turning more than a few degrees. Even if the clamp comes loose, (very unlikely.) It can't slip off the bottom of the filter when the sump is installed. It's just a bit of insurance for those who are a bit worried about their filter loosening, which does happen but no reliable theory has been established 'Concretely' as to why. A hose clamp costs pennies. A crank costs a lot more. Individual choice.

 

Changing the oil and filter IS simple. Just THINK about what you are doing rather than seeing it simply as a sequence of actions you're carrying out and t will take you half an hour the first time and then about fiften minutes next time.

 

Welcome to the world of Do-It-Yourself

 

Pete

[Tom M]

Dimitris,

Here's a picture of the hose clamp installed on the oil filter so it won't unscrew. The picture was taken from Greg Fields Roper plate installation procedure in the how-to section here.

 

 

Luhbo,

When I tried to change my oil filter through the manhole cover last year the UFI filter was so tight that Guzzi filter wrench just spun on the flats without loosening it, deforming the bottom of the filter. I had to drop the sump and put a strap wrench on the filter to get it off.

 

I believe that any mechanic who tried to change a hose clamped filter without knowing the clamp was there would just deform the bottom of the filter, drop the sump, find the hose clamp and charge you double . No real harm would be done except to your wallet, which you would deserve for not changing your own damn oil and filter

[luhbo]

When I tried to change my oil filter through the manhole cover last year the UFI filter was so tight that Guzzi filter wrench just spun on the flats without loosening it, deforming the bottom of the filter. I had to drop the sump and put a strap wrench on the filter to get it off.

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Exactly! All my mechanics life I've never seen one of those filters come loose. And there were situations when I really wished the damn thing would finally give up and come loose The risk of harm for a engine caused by a loose and lousy idiot clamp is way bigger, believe me! On the other hand, those roper plated fellows of course need such a gimmick, no doubt about that. It's the sort of pros that want a torque table to change an indicator bulb, just to feel save

 

Hubert

[Dimitris]

Pete, Tom, thank you very much. The only disadvantage is that I need time for the "do it yourself business" but I would be very happy if I finally do it by myself. Thanks again!

 

Ciao!

 

Dimitris

[Dimitris]

So, If I am right the Big daddy's pictorial link isn't working, is it?