Swan Neck V7 bars

[docc]

Is it possible to fit the Swan Neck bars from the earlier V7 to the 2000-2001 V11 Sport? Were these also used on the 750S and S3?

 

(Looking for an elegant and proper solution to the achy wrists.)

[luhbo]

The fork diameter might be slightly different, I suppose.

 

Hubert

[Guzzirider]

Not as pretty as the swan necks but you could get some adjustable Tarozzi clips ons with which you can alter the height and angle of the bars.

[dlaing]

The fork diameter might be slightly different, I suppose.

 

Hubert

It would be very different.

The swan neck bars from the Centauro are probably the right size.

Are the Centauro the same as Verlicchi?

http://www.mgcycle.com/bars.html

"300017038 Touring 54mm fork tube $349.95 pair (Centauro/V11Sport/etc)

"Sport" (2 inch rise) or "America" (7 inch rise) are available by special order. "

Convertibars are similar, and are available in different angles.

I like how I can change width by moving forward or back.

[docc]

The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport?

 

The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of.

[OldButNotDead]

The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport?

 

The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of.

 

 

You have the option to buy Convertibars that are angled downnward, or you can choose to get the flat ones like I did. Either way , they offer a huge range of available positions. Way up and back for town and way down and forward for track. Did I mention I really like these things? I did replace my lines and cables using OEM bits.

[motoguzznix]

The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport?

 

The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of.

I mounted the verlicchis onto my 2000 KR.

Riding position has changed very slightly: the bars are approx. 2-3 cm higher which gives me a more comfortable ride, but character of the stock V11 (which I like) did not change too much. They are adjustable in all directions and available in 3 heights. I choosed the lowest bars and could retain the stock brake line at the front. The accelerator cable comes from the Centauro.

[docc]

With just 1-2" (25-50 mm), do any of the stock cables or lines have to be changed?

[macguzzi]

those swan necks are only 35mm

[docc]

You have the option to buy Convertibars that are angled downnward, or you can choose to get the flat ones like I did. Either way , they offer a huge range of available positions. Way up and back for town and way down and forward for track. Did I mention I really like these things? I did replace my lines and cables using OEM bits.

 

 

O'BND:

 

What "OEM" components did you use? Cables? Hydraulic lines? How high can one go without swapping lines and such?

 

(And do you have a photo of your set-up?)

 

Thanks, docc-with-the-achy-hands

[dlaing]

Here are photos of my convertibar setup

Right bar

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2443/co...barrightqf2.jpg

 

Left bar

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/37/convertibarleftik4.jpg

 

Riders view

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7736/co...iderseyeil3.jpg

 

Front view

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2454/convertibarpd6.jpg

 

EDIT and for comparison, Docc's photo of stock V11 bars

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/doc...es/IMG_4385.jpg

 

I have Ohlins forks, which are longer, so the setup option is different than what you should do with the Marzocchi.

I lowered the triple clamps down the Ohlins forks leaving enough room to clamp the convertibars on top of the upper triple clamp.

Because I upgraded to four pad calipers I was able to use Suzuki SV650 brake lines made by "Braking", that I recall are about two inches longer than stock.

Clutch and throttle are stock and just needed careful attention to routing, but otherwise worked fine.

To go higher I would need longer everthing.

The quality of build on the Convertibars is very nice. Tubes are stainless and clamps are designed for quick easy adjustment.

I noticed a mild increase in vibration over the stock bars. I am sure most people would not notice the slight increase in vibes, but bar end mirrors or weights are probably a good idea.

To get an idea of how high you can go up if you change the brake lines, compare my left bar photo with Motoguzznix's frontal shot.

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?...ost&id=7663

I might be able to go another half inch up, but it would be pushing the limits of the throttle and clutch lines.

I never thought of getting Centauro throttle lines. I'll have to keep that in mind.

I'll bet a Centauro clutch line might be longer, too.

[docc]

Centauro has a cable clutch (five speed).

[dlaing]

Centauro has a cable clutch (five speed).

DRAT!

I suppose a custom line is easy enough.

If anyone gets the measurement for the clutch line, please share!

I am pretty happy at the current height, so I am not in the market, but others might be need to know.

[OldButNotDead]

O'BND:

 

What "OEM" components did you use? Cables? Hydraulic lines? How high can one go without swapping lines and such?

 

(And do you have a photo of your set-up?)

 

Thanks, docc-with-the-achy-hands

 

 

My saga involved an initial swap of Ballabio handlebars/cables/lines for the original 2002 V11 Naked parts.

 

This was early on, immediately after purchasing the bike in 2003 - before other options were available. We've got no hills here, and I hadn't yet heard of track days, so the clip-ons were just annoying. After discovering the joys of riding for sport, I wanted that capability back.

 

When the Convertabars for the V11 came out, I bought just the clamps and flat bars, and exchanged them for the Ballabio handlebar. Looking at their web page now, I notice that the Convertibars "bars" have since changed. They are now adjustable in another plane - allowing downward angles for the racer types.

 

I haven't done range-of-motion measurements, but some are given in the V11-specific installation notes found here: http://www.convertibars.com/InstallationList.cfm

 

Likewise, I haven't shot photos, but here's a good one from the installation notes:

 

If I was buying Convertibars now, I'd just buy the whole bloody kit (which includes lines and cables), to allow maximal range of motion. I don't see the point of going halfway, but that's my default attitude.

 

I pretty much agree with all of dlaing's comments above. Definitely more vibration that the rubber-isolated handlebars; can't say I remember what the clip-ons were like. Barend weights + barend mirrors help.

 

Takes me about 20 minutes to switch from high to low (or back). Cheaper than buying a track bike. At least until you drop it.

[dlaing]

When the Convertabars for the V11 came out, I bought just the clamps and flat bars, and exchanged them for the Ballabio handlebar. Looking at their web page now, I notice that the Convertibars "bars" have since changed. They are now adjustable in another plane - allowing downward angles for the racer types.

Cool!

Now I need to come up with another couple hundred bucks!

My bars are the FG with four degree bend. I was considering the zero degree (90°) bend, but this would be much better.

Plus or minus 8 degrees! (in 4° increments)