dlaing Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Update!I have been running the Real Gaskets since September without a leak. FWIW my OE gaskets leaked unless I really cranked down the allen heads. Just tight enough that they do not loosen is all that is required with the real gaskets. 14980[/snapback] Update number 2. My Real Gaskets failed a few months ago. But since they come with a lifetime warranty, I sent them an email. I'll let you all know how the replacement goes. My guess is that I should have used lock washers and torqued down less firmly... How are other people's holding up?
Guzzirider Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Never had a rocker gasket leak in 18 years of Guzzi-ing. Guy
dlaing Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Never had a rocker gasket leak in 18 years of Guzzi-ing. Guy 72826[/snapback] What is your secret? The only perfect method for me is to replace them everytime, but I am too cheap, which is why I INVESTED in the Real Gasket® I don't think I have ever gotten more than four changes out of one gasket, without leaks developing.
Guzzirider Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I often reuse the existing gasket unless its knackered and I dont use a torque wrench- just use my judgement. No secrets- I guess I have been lucky although the same can't be said of crankcase seals- I have blown 2 over the years! Guy
Guest trispeed Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 use Yamabond ( it's a non- hardening gasket sealer, it's made specifically for this sort of application) on the cover side of the gasket; a little coat of grease on the head side. Gasket will stay with the valve cover but is removable with no effort or residue if needed.
dlaing Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 Update number 3 for Real Gaskets. Harold blames me for over-torquing, but says he'll honor the warranty. He says not to use lock-washers, but to use loctite blue. Fair enough. I guess I better buy a torque wrench.
dlaing Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 Update number 4. His reply said 10-15 inch pounds which translates to about 1 foot pound or 0.15Kg/Meters or 1.45 Newton Meters, which remarkably light. I just got home and confirmed that his instructions said the same as his email. He even underlined the word, inch. I guess I should have read the instructions more carefully.
docc Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 He says not to use lock-washers, but to use loctite blue. 73041[/snapback] I helped a buddy on his LeMans IV finding evry thing Lock-tited. I'm more partial to thread lubricant and careful torquing in a star pattern. I do use lock-tite any any fastener I've found to come loose. And the side stand mounting bolts.
dlaing Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I helped a buddy on his LeMans IV finding evry thing Lock-tited. I'm more partial to thread lubricant and careful torquing in a star pattern. I do use lock-tite any any fastener I've found to come loose. And the side stand mounting bolts. 73169[/snapback] But you torque everything to more than one foot pound, right? The Real Gaskets from http://www.realgaskets.com are made from "aerospace mechanical grade AMS silicone" and will deform if torqued like our OEM gaskets. (what is the torque spec for rocker cover with OEM gasket? 5-10 foot pounds or so The rocker cover with Real Gaskets are to be torqued to about 1 foot pound. I am not sure I have ever removed anything that was loctited... I have only used loctite where I hoped to never have to return to. If this does not work, I am going back to OEM gaskets. We shall see! Anyone else using Real Gaskets?
docc Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 OK , I get it now. I'm relying on the thread torque to hold the bolt in place. *One* foot-pound? Is that even finger tight?
Guest Nogbad Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Anyone else using Real Gaskets? 73175[/snapback] Old cornflake packets and a smear of rancid mutton fat seems to do the job.....
Guzzirider Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Noggers- We could start a new oil thread- mutton or lamb fat- whats the best? Guy
Guest Nogbad Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Noggers- We could start a new oil thread- mutton or lamb fat- whats the best? Guy 73243[/snapback] I was always taught that mutton tallow was for use with taps and dies. Lard just doesn't have the film strength and goose fat is only good for roast potatoes if you are gay.
Guzzirider Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I was always taught that mutton tallow was for use with taps and dies. Lard just doesn't have the film strength and goose fat is only good for roast potatoes if you are gay. 73244[/snapback] I also heard that synthetic mutton fat will blow your engine immediately. Fat bloke down the pub told me that so I believe him. Guy
dlaing Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 OK , I get it now. I'm relying on the thread torque to hold the bolt in place. *One* foot-pound? Is that even finger tight? 73239[/snapback] I am not sure I can find a torque wrench accurate enough. We shall see. PS Goose fat and potatoes is delicious!
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