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I have a 1996 (injected) sport 1100 with brembo front brake discs that are due for machining as they pulse, however I am likely to "cut to the chase" and replace both with new items. The stock ones I understand are 4.5mm stainless units, but I was thinking of stumping up for a better spec ... thicker, floaters... mainly so they last longer (and rust cooly in the rain) rather than any need to dramatically improve braking performance.

 

Does anyone have experience of this?

 

In particular can you use the thicker (5mm or 5.5mm) discs with the stock calipers? Do the bolt holes line up?

 

Any help appreciated...

 

JFK

Posted

fitting is same as on most ducati from 1992 to model 998, newer ones have 5 bolt patern. ANd from aprilia rsv is ok too. Braking wave is nice too. Thickness isn't a problem

Posted

Discs from all these bikes are OK:

 

DUCATI:

MULTISTRADA single disk 620 2005 - 2006

S2R MONSTER 1000 2006 - 2007

SS SUPERSPORT DS (V5/e3/0142) 1000 2003 - 2006

SPORT 900 900 2002 - 2002

ST3 992 2004 - 2006

M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 1000 2003 - 2005

SPORT 750 1988 - 1990

ST4 S (S2/e1/00013) 996 2001 - 2005

PAUL SMART LE 1000 2006 - 2007

GT 1000 2006 - 2007

SL 900 SUPERLIGHT 900 1992 - 1996

SS SUPERSPORT (V5/e3/0142) 800 2003 - 2004

SS 620 SUPERSPORT 620 2004 - 2004

SPORT (V5/e3/0142) 620 2003 - 2004

M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 800 2003 - 2004

M MONSTER single disk 620 2005 - 2006

M MONSTER (M3/e1/00025) 400 2001 - 2006

748 748 S (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 1999 - 2002

S4R MONSTER 996 2003 - 2006

851 STRADA - SP 851 1988 - 1991

M MONSTER 400 1994 - 1999

M MONSTER (M/G8020) 750 1994 - 1999

M MONSTER 696 2008 - 2008

SS 620 SUPERSPORT 620 2002 - 2005

ST4 (S2/E1.92/61.00013.00) 916 1998 - 2004

M MONSTER (M3/e1/00025) 600 2000 - 2002

M MONSTER (M/G802/0) 600 1994 - 1999

888 DESMOQUATTRO 888 1993 - 1994

S4R 996 2003 - 2006

SPORT 1000 2006 - 2007

SPORT S 1000 2007 - 2007

SPORT (V5/e3/0142) 800 2003 - 2004

JUNIOR SS 350 1991 - 1992

SS SUPERSPORT 400 1992 - 1997

SS SUPERSPORT JUNIOR 400 1992 - 1997

M MONSTER-DARK (M/G802/0) 600 1994 - 1999

748 R (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 2000 - 2000

748 SP (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 1995 - 1997

748 SPS (748/H199) 748 1998 - 1999

748 BIPOSTO (748/H199) 748 1995 - 1997

748 BIPOSTO 748 1998 - 2002

M MONSTER-DARK (M3/e1/00025) 600 2000 - 2002

SS SUPERSPORT (S/G801/0) 600 1994 - 2000

M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 620 2002 - 2005

M MONSTER (M/G802) 750 2000 - 2001

M MONSTER (M/G8020) 750 1996 - 1999

998 S (two pads) (H2/e1/00012) 998 2002 - 2003

M MONSTER (M/G802) 900 2000 - 2001

M MONSTER (M/G802/0) 900 1993 - 1999

M MONSTER i.e. (M2/e1/00051) 900 2002 - 2004

888 SP 888 1990 - 1993

851 STRADA-SP 851 1990 - 1991

SPORT (ZDM750S/EBE) 750 2000 - 2002

SS SUPERSPORT (S/G801/0) 750 1991 - 1999

SS SUPERSPORT (V2/e1/00026) 750 2000 - 2002

SS SUPERSPORT 900 1991 - 1997

SS SUPERSPORT (V1/E1.92/61.00004.00) 900 1998 - 2002

996 BIPOSTO 996 1999 - 2001

996 S 996 2001 - 2001

998 BIPOSTO 998 2002 - 2003

ST2 (S1/H965) 944 1997 - 2003

ST4 (S2/E1.92/61.00013.00) 916 1999 - 2004

916 BIPOSTO (916/G846) 916 1994 - 1998

916 SPS (916/G684) 916 1997 - 1998

S4 MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 916 2001 - 2003

 

APRILIA

MX 50 2003 -

RS 50 2006 - 2006

TUONO FIGHTER (RP/e11/00027) 1000 2002 - 2005

TUONO FIGHTER 1000 2002 - 2005

RS REPLICA- EXTREMA (GS/G7960) (MP/H792) 125 1992 - 1997

AF1 FUTURA 125 1990 - 1992

RS 125 2006 - 2007

RSV SP (ME/H827) 1000 1999 - 2000

SL 1000 FALCO (PA/E11003) 1000 2000 - 2004

RSV R (ME/H827) 1000 2000 - 2000

RSV (ME/H827) 1000 1998 - 2000

RS REPLICA-EXTREMA (GS/G7960) (MP/H792) 125 1992 - 1997

TUONO (SF/e11/00053) 125 2004 - 2005

PEGASO STRADA 650 2005 - 2006

MX 125 2004 - 2007

 

LAVERDA

GHOST(ZLVSPA/EBE) 650 1996 - 1999

STRIKE 750 1998 - 2001

SPORT 650 1995 - 2001

S FORMULA (ZLVSTA/EBE) 750 1998 - 2001

 

BMW

G 650 X Moto 650 2007 - 2008

 

KTM

DUKE II (KTM DKII/e1/00048) 640 1999 - 2002

DUKE II (KTM DKII/e1/00048) 640 2003 - 2006

 

CAGIVA

MITO 525 125 2006 - 2007

RAPTOR 650 2001 - 2007

SUPERCITY 50 1992 -

RAPTOR 125 2004 - 2006

SUPERCITY 125 1992 -

RIVER 600 1995 -

PLANET (N1/EBE) 125 1997 - 2007

MITO EV 125 1995 - 2007

MITO 125 1991 - 1992

MITO 125 1993 - 1994

 

YAMAHA

FZR EXUP (3LE/F128) 1000 1990 - 1991

FZR EXUP (3LE/F128) 1000 1992 - 1993

FZR GENESIS (2LA/E558) 1000 1987 - 1989

XJR 1200 1995 - 1996

FZR R OW 01 R (3PJ/F170) 750 1989 - 1992

SZR (4SU/H274) 660 1996 -

TDR 250 1989 - 1992

TZR (2MA/E508) 250 1989 - 1992

SRX 400 1991 -

XJR 1200 1997 - 1997

XJR 1300 1998 - 1998

TDR 50 1990 -

TZR 80 1987 -

SZR (4SU/H274) 660 1995 - 2001

FZX ZEAL 250 1991 - heden

TZR 125 1989 - 1992

TDR (italian model) 125 1989 - 1999

 

MZ

1000SN/SF 1000 2001 - 2002

1000 S 1000 2003 -

1000SN/ SF 1000 2001 - 2002

 

VOXAN

BLACK MAGIC 995 2006 - 2006

CAFE RACER 995 2000 - 2006

ROADSTER 995 2001 - 2006

 

BIMOTA

SB8K GOBERT 1000 2006 - 2006

YB9 600 1997 - 2000

SB6R 1100 1998 - 2000

SB6 1100 1996 - 2000

SB8R (SB8R/e11/0012) 1000 1997 - 2000

DB3 MANTRA 904 1995 - 2000

DB4 (DB4/e11/0020) 904 1998 - 1999

DIECI BIPOSTO 1000 1992 - 1995

DB2 SR 904 1993 - 2000

TESI 1D 851 851 1990 - 1991

YB7 400 1989 - 1989

V-DUE 500 1997 - 2000

BB1 SUPERMONO 650 1996 - 2000

 

BENELLI

TNT RS-CAFE RACER-TITANIUM 1130 2005 - 2006

TNT RS- CAFE RACER- TITANIUM 1130 2005 - 2006

TORNADO TRE 900 2001 - 2002

TNT 1100 2004 - 2004

TNT 1130 2005 - 2006

 

MOTO MORINI

9.5 1200 2006 - 2006

9 1/2 1200 2006 - 2006

CORSARO 1200 2005 - 2006

 

MOTO GUZZI

CALIFORNIA EV 1100 1996 - 2000

SPORT 1200 2006 - 2007

V11 SPORT (KR/e3/0007) 1100 1997 - 2000

GRISO 8 V 1200 2007 - 2007

NORGE T-GTL 1200 2006 - 2006

DAYTONA IE 1000 1991 - 1994

NORGE T-GTL 850 2007 - 2007

BREVA 1100 2004 - 2004

CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL (KD/e11/00033) 1100 1997 - 2003

BREVA 850 2006 - 2006

850_2006_2006 850 2006 - 2006

NEVADA (LK/e3/0010) 750 2003 - 2007

DAYTONA IE 1000 1995 - 2000

V10 CENTAURO (KK/H601) 1000 1996 - 2001

BREVA 1100 2005 - 2006

BREVA (LL/e11/0081) 750 2003 - 2007

CALIFORNIA EV 1100 1997 -

CALIFORNIA JACKAL (KD/e11/00033) 1100 2001 - 2006

V11 LE MANS (KR/e3/0007) 1100 2000 - 2005

GRISO 1100 2005 - 2007

SPORT (KE/H652) 1100 1996 -

V10 CENTAURO SPORT 1100 1999 -

 

GILERA

GFR 125 1993 - 1994

 

Note: some of these bikes do have single discs.

 

Cast iron discs are a real improvement

You can sometimes do a real bargain at ebay

especially when someone is trying to sell his 1995 Yamaha FZR1000 Brembo/Motoquality discs.

Who the hell is nowadays riding a 1995 Yamaha FZR??!

Well those discs fit your Sport!

 

Just watch these measurements:

inner diametre: 64 mm

number of bolts: 6

diametre holes: 8,5 mm

outer diametre: 320 mm

bolt pattern: 80 mm

total height: 10 mm

Posted

As Brembo part numbers, to best of my knowledge:

08.DU01.32FD (cast iron)

08.YA00.32 (stainless)

With a 9.5mm disc offset: 08.6703.11

These are all full floating

 

9.5mm disc offset, "fixed" disc

08.2003.70, 08.4899.82, 08.4899.91 & 08.4899.93

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I've got the same problem. It is nice to see I can use the rotors from so many different bikes. Great info!!

Posted

Just a reminder that the brakes can feel grabby or warped and what is needed is to put a drop of light oil on the float pins.

 

I had replaced my fronts with a set of take-offs from an earlier Sport and thought they were ruined/warped, but they had sat so long that the float pins were stuck. A little Break-Free CLP while tapping the rotors all 'round with a mallet and much improved!

Guest Victor/Euro Moto Arizona
Posted

Beringer makes nice cast iron rotors which they claim won't rust because of a special coating on them. I also like the Brake Tech Starblade rotors. They are expensive but weigh practically nothing!

  • 1 year later...
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Cross referencing with the likes of Metalgear (which is useful in that they they advise all the disc's dimensions) suggests some of the bikes in the long list use a 104mm diameter bolt hole. So the note to watch the measurements is very wise.

 

Any one ever tried EBC rotors? I've found MD614LS & MD614RS for GBP294 (inc. postage), which looks pretty tempting. [And very different to the local quote of AUD820 for EBC!]

Posted
Cross referencing with the likes of Metalgear (which is useful in that they they advise all the disc's dimensions) suggests some of the bikes in the long list use a 104mm diameter bolt hole. So the note to watch the measurements is very wise.

 

Any one ever tried EBC rotors? I've found MD614LS & MD614RS for GBP294 (inc. postage), which looks pretty tempting. [And very different to the local quote of AUD820 for EBC!]

 

 

The EBC rotors rust. That may or may not bother you.

 

Top-of-the-line Brembo floaters are about $610 US per pair. V11 Sport Brembos cost about $420 per pair. Breva 1100 type rotors cost about $320 per pair but are currently backordered in the US. The shop at which I work sells them, as do many others.

Guest ratchethack
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I had replaced my fronts with a set of take-offs from an earlier Sport and thought they were ruined/warped, but they had sat so long that the float pins were stuck. A little Break-Free CLP while tapping the rotors all 'round with a mallet and much improved!

Break-Free CLP :thumbsup:

 

Have also been successful keeping semi-floaters happily semi-floating with an occasional drop of Liquid Wrench on the buttons. Alternately, a mini-shot of Aero Kroil (not Sili Kroil). Lacking either, I've also used WD-40. Just make VERY certain to carefully clean up all excess, and carefully wipe-down the rotors afterward with lacquer thinner, Brakleen, or your favorite no-residue solvent.

Posted
I need also front disks for my Corsa and if someone knows min thickness.

Yeah, took me until just recently to find spec on minimum thickness. I laugh at these - "minimum thickness engraved on disc":

08489982, 08489991, 08489993

 

Maybe if you recognise yours that will tell you what you need to know.

 

Breva 1100 type rotors ~US$320 per pair? Wow! Looks like I will definitely be importing to avoid local price gouging.

I don't need to go fancy. I've worn my 08489982s down to sub 3mm without warping or complaint (so much for 3.6mm minimum thickness). Though one set of pads, I got from a Ducati dealer, only lasted 8000km. Maybe that helped...?

Posted
Yeah, took me until just recently to find spec on minimum thickness. I laugh at these - "minimum thickness engraved on disc":

08489982, 08489991, 08489993

 

 

I don't need to go fancy. I've worn my 08489982s down to sub 3mm without warping or complaint (so much for 3.6mm minimum thickness). Though one set of pads, I got from a Ducati dealer, only lasted 8000km. Maybe that helped...?

One of the reasons for the minimum thickness is that a pad worn close to the backing plate could possibly make a bid for freedom between the caliper and disk !! :o (I've seen cars do this)

Its possible to go below the recommended thickness but only if the pads are checked (with our bikes the rear disk is probably the one most likely to be dangerous due to its ability to wear pads at a rapid rate !!)

  • 2 weeks later...
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One of the reasons for the minimum thickness is that a pad worn close to the backing plate could possibly make a bid for freedom between the caliper and disk !!

I would have thought the pad pin, with the additional safety of a pad pin R-clip, pretty much nailed the pad against bidding for freedom?

Meanwhile I've ended up with Brembo 'snowflake' rotors, 08.2003.84, ex Yoyodyne. USD120.75ea. Just a touch different to AUD688ea, for OE, via a MG dealer!

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