Tom M Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 From MCUSA Eurogossip: "Moto Guzzi still looks on course to come up with a new air-cooled 1400cc V-Twin motor featuring four-valve heads. Primarily this will be used for a cruiser to take on Harley at their own game as it is expected to give over 100 hp with lots of torque down low. Insiders suggest the next bike to get the new engine, after the yet unnamed new cruiser, will be the Norge. Other bikes may follow in due course, but it should be remembered that they are still working on a liquid-cooled version of their existing powerplant. The Milan Show in November seems to be the favorite for the new cruiser to break cover. " No mention of anything sporty A liquid cooled version of their existing powerplant? That would only be interesting to me if they really upped the power over the air cooled motors.
biesel Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 EICMA 2008 rumors: from the "Anima Guzzista" Forum: - "nuova" V7 sport con telaio rosso e serbatoio verde legnano - "nuova" V7 special votata al turismo, - 1200 Sport con motore 8 valvole da 111 CV - nuovo California 1400 con potenza tra i 90/100 CV
Skeeve Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 A liquid cooled version of their existing powerplant? That would only be interesting to me if they really upped the power over the air cooled motors. Once you go to liquid cooling, there's no longer any reason to stick the jugs out in the breeze [it looks st00pid, like the old CX500 Hondas...] Emissions & noise regs and power demands may eventually require liquid-cooling, and when it does, it will be time for Piaggio to retire Carcano's old ditch-pump and try something new [maybe a v4 or v6 or how about a slant-triple, w/ the crank off to one side so the gearbox can slide alongside, contra-rotating, thereby shortening the engine length and cancelling the gyroscopic fx?] At any rate, it behooves Piaggio to try something that hasn't already been done to death by others, to retain the Guzzi history of marching to a different beat and getting it right first try.
Guest frankdugo Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 well like everyone else iwant more horse,less weight. don't want any water though.i know-iknow thats the only way to get horse.a smaller powerplant does not have to be ruled out---better fining,more efficent oil cooling?
rocker59 Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 liquid-cooled heads, ala Big Bore. (or Ducati ST2). it's an interim step that can be added to an existing engine.
Tom M Posted August 28, 2008 Author Posted August 28, 2008 EICMA 2008 rumors: from the "Anima Guzzista" Forum: - "nuova" V7 sport con telaio rosso e serbatoio verde legnano - "nuova" V7 special votata al turismo, - 1200 Sport con motore 8 valvole da 111 CV - nuovo California 1400 con potenza tra i 90/100 CV I wish I spoke Italian. Could someone translate this into English?
mdude Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 I wish I spoke Italian. Could someone translate this into English? "Do anyone of the gentlemen want some more chianti before the massage"
rocker59 Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 I wish I spoke Italian. Could someone translate this into English? EICMA 2008 rumors: From the "Guzzista Soul" Forum: - "new" V7 sport with red chassis and green tank - "new" V7 special devoted to touring, - 1200 Sport with 8 valves engine producing 111 HP - new California 1400 with power between 90/100 HP
Tom M Posted August 28, 2008 Author Posted August 28, 2008 Martin, whether or not I'll need more chianti would entirely depend on who's giving the massage Thanks Mike. It sounds like the V7 will just be getting some new paint, bags, and a windshield.
rocker59 Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Interesting for sure. Looks like Piaggio is going to really push the small block V7 line. The Classic to be joined by a Sport model and a Touring model. Interesting stuff... Rumors persist of 4 valve heads coming to the small block engine... Maybe they will be on the V7 Sport showbike... Seems like a good plan to me... I'm anxiously awaiting the show at Milan in November...
Guest goffredo Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Interesting for sure. Looks like Piaggio is going to really push the small block V7 line. The Classic to be joined by a Sport model and a Touring model. Interesting stuff... Rumors persist of 4 valve heads coming to the small block engine... Maybe they will be on the V7 Sport showbike... Seems like a good plan to me... I'm anxiously awaiting the show at Milan in November... Hi there, I am sorry but I am going to spoil the party a little bit here... The "sport" model is going to be a V7 classic painted in green as the old and glorious V7 Sport. That's it. Green paint. That's sporty enough for Piaggio. The "touring" model is a V7 classic with luggage and a small windshield. That's it: add luggage and you get a touring bike. That's how Piaggio is going to "push" the small block line. I am among the many who begged the company to spare us the humiliation of seeing the V7Sport badge misused on a small bike such as the V7 Classic. Seeing the V7Sport of year 2008 is a 40hp bike will be an insult to the great tradition of Moto Guzzi. Let's see if they'll hear us. I do hope with all my heart that Guzzi will surprise us with a new California, new sporty small block engine and stuff but so far rumors are far from pleasant. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, G.
Greg Field Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Knowing well the kind of retards who run the piaggio motorcycles line, I would bet Goffredo is entirely right. It's shameful how inept they are. This is exactly the type of "step on thei dicks" maneuver they are so famous for.
Guest goffredo Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Knowing well the kind of retards who run the piaggio motorcycles line, I would bet Goffredo is entirely right. It's shameful how inept they are. This is exactly the type of "step on thei dicks" maneuver they are so famous for. Hi Greg, I did not want to be too explicit but, I am so sorry to say, you are entirely right. Af friend of us on the Anima Guzzista Forum developed the "Mandello Spore Theory" which is more or less: No matter how clever a manager is, no matter how prestigious his CV is, as soon as they are are settled in Mandello they become inept. So it must be some plants somewhere on the shores of the Lake... Here a clip of managers in Mandello announcing the "new" V7sport: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7BsTRvYc30...feature=related G.
Paul Minnaert Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 I can imagine Piaggio not introducing so much new, they put a lot of money in Guzzi, with the 8v engine and the stelvio, after buying the remainders. And before spending new money some has to come in. Last year there was talk about reaching 10.000 build bikes, I think this year will be much less. I'm not going to repeat why they don't sell more, we all know.
dlaing Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 The "sport" model is going to be a V7 classic painted in green as the old and glorious V7 Sport.
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