Sam38a1 Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I went to the dealer today to pick up some parts and notice all the 100cc and under dirt bikes had signs not for sale because of lead. It sounds like a hoax, but it's true: children's motorcycles and ATVs are now illegal in America, effective February 10, 2009. Thanks to the well-intentioned but ill-applied Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, offroad motorcycles and ATVs intended for those 12 years old and younger are now illegal. Read this http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns...0,2727588.story I have two kids, both went through a teething phase, and I can’t say I ever saw either of them attempt to stick a motorcycle in their mouth… Sam
jrt Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 You just never know where those things end up after a crash...... This really brings on two questions: 1) why is a small motorcycle classified as a "toy"? 2) why is there a significant quantity of lead in motorcycle grips?
WellWellWell Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-0...rcycleban_N.htm
Guest ratchethack Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Is there anyone here in the US reading these links who actually believes this is THE END of government intervention into motorcycling -- or much of anything else? Is there anyone reading these links who actually believes the entire history of our government's systematic stripping of our freedoms and increasingly ignoring the Constitution and Bill of Rights at any time over the last century that this process has EVER retreated, rather than incrementally advanced? Anyone reckon this is merely a small sample of wot "hope and change" actually means?? Enquiring minds. . . (well, you know). . .
gavo Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Bureaucracy gone mad they could at least make the age 6yrs or at least have a transportation clause, I don't belive many 6yr olds would put bike parts in their mouth
belfastguzzi Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Money should be made illegal because it's dirty
jrt Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 When money is illegal, only illegals will own money?
roberto tenni Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Bureaucracy gone mad they could at least make the age 6yrs or at least have a transportation clause, I don't belive many 6yr olds would put bike parts in their mouth I occassionally lick my Guzzi.
GuzziMoto Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 This is not "Fascism" but rather inept"ism". No one involed in this cockup is trying to take away motorcycles, they just did not word a well meaning but overzealous bill well at all and things that were not meant to be included are. It is an example of goverment ineptitude and that crosses party lines.
Guest ratchethack Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 This is not "Fascism" but rather inept"ism". No one involed in this cockup is trying to take away motorcycles, they just did not word a well meaning but overzealous bill well at all and things that were not meant to be included are. So the intent of the bill was entirely honorable -- it's just that the legislators were sloppy about the wording, and entirely unintentional "things that were not meant to be included" just fell into it out of the clear blue sky by accident, eh, GMoto? My, My! However did THAT get in there?! Historically, this is the typical mentality of those who willingly bend over to accept "the tip", naïvely believing the designer propaganda that promised them, "you're really gonna like this, and it won't hurt a bit!", and then are "surprised" when "the tip" is abruptly, repeatedly, and forcibly followed by the entire, great wallopping, ever-lengthening "shaft". . . And then there's this, which trumps the above in spades, and speaks volumes about this mentality. But hey -- at least it's consistent. . . If we spend the money and don't survive, I can live with that.
belfastguzzi Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Yorkshire should be made illegal because it's dirty and children might try to put it in their mouths. It's a good thing for Yorkshire that it isn't in America.
richard100t Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 So the intent of the bill was entirely honorable -- it's just that the legislators were sloppy about the wording, and entirely unintentional "things that were not meant to be included" just fell into it out of the clear blue sky by accident, eh, GMoto? <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_whistle.gif" alt=":whistle:"> My, My! However did THAT get in there?! Historically, this is the typical mentality of those who willingly bend over to accept "the tip", naïvely believing the designer propaganda that promised them, "you're really gonna like this, and it won't hurt a bit!", and then are "surprised" when "the tip" is abruptly, repeatedly, and forcibly followed by the entire, great wallopping, ever-lengthening "shaft". . . And then there's this, which trumps the above in spades, and speaks volumes about this mentality. But hey -- at least it's consistent. . . I was watching cnn tonight & there was a story about how the government wants to put gps in cars & charge tax by the mile. For some reason just taxing gasoline is ineffective now? Call me paranoid but I'm pretty sure "they" want to be able to track your every move should they feel the "need" to do so. Imagine getting speeding tickets in the mail with your own car tracking device used as evidence against you. <_>I'm with the Rick Santelli crowd...anyone else want to have a Tea Party?
GuzziMoto Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 So the intent of the bill was entirely honorable -- it's just that the legislators were sloppy about the wording, and entirely unintentional "things that were not meant to be included" just fell into it out of the clear blue sky by accident, eh, GMoto? <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_whistle.gif" alt=":whistle:"> My, My! However did THAT get in there?! Historically, this is the typical mentality of those who willingly bend over to accept "the tip", naïvely believing the designer propaganda that promised them, "you're really gonna like this, and it won't hurt a bit!", and then are "surprised" when "the tip" is abruptly, repeatedly, and forcibly followed by the entire, great wallopping, ever-lengthening "shaft". . . And then there's this, which trumps the above in spades, and speaks volumes about this mentality. But hey -- at least it's consistent. . . You do have a point. "Honorable" is a subjective term. To you, trying to prevent deaths of children from toxic substances is "Fascism". To me it is not. But then, your superior intellect is there to save me from Fascism and brakes that are too powerful for my own good. Thanks.
Guzzi2Go Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 And then there's this, which trumps the above in spades, and speaks volumes about this mentality. But hey -- at least it's consistent. . . If we spend the money and don't survive, I can live with that. Irony is like goldie or bronzie, only made of iron.
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