Guest dkgross Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 my LeMans is quiet as a mouse when idling, and noisy and clattery when the clutch is pulled in. I kinda like it
al_roethlisberger Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 BTW, if the clutch is still rattling when the lever is pulled in something is definitely wrong - this applies to all V11s (probably a warped plate). Are you sure about that? Mine has been rattling with the clutch pulled in from day one. The dealer said it was normal, and my mechanic has never commented on it. 21,000 miles on it now. I suspect it wiil eventually grenade or slip someday. You have a V11 Sport.. with the dual-plate(normal) clutch. These all do rattle when pulled-in. The single-plate clutches apparently rattle when let out, esp if idling in neutral.... the opposite of the dual-plate clutches. al
al_roethlisberger Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 my LeMans is quiet as a mouse when idling, and noisy and clattery when the clutch is pulled in. I kinda like it ...me too I especially like it when people look at me like the bike is about to fly apart or something
roberto Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 Ok, ok, I bow to experience - I was not aware that the twin plate clutch was prone to rattling - I've only ridden fairly new ones which made no clutch noises at all (a 1999 and a 2001). I was really referring to a particular V11 Sport which rattled both with the clutch engaged and disengaged - the dealer tried to convince me that it was normal but later admitted that he had to replace it. So the guide is: Single plate clutch - noisy when disengaged, quiet when engaged = normal Dual plate clutch - quiet when disengaged, noisy when engaged = normal Noises at other times = potential problem?
chrisfer81 Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 My V11 have the sound of the mandello's bells when I grab the clutch lever. And, as Leafman60, when idling in neutral, there is another noise (a woowooo). But this noise is not, i think, the clutch, this noise seem to come from the gearbox (axe, bearing). lot of noise for lot of things chrisfer81-FrenchV11LM2003
dlaing Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 So the guide is: Single plate clutch - noisy when disengaged, quiet when engaged = normal Dual plate clutch - quiet when disengaged, noisy when engaged = normal I think you got your terms mixed up. I have heard many people use the terms engage and disengage one way or the other. I think we get it mixed up because the word engaging implies that an action is taking place, and we thing that our hand is engaging, but the term refers to what is happening with our clutch plates and not with what we are doing with our hand. I could be wrong but I have understood the following: Disengage means that the clutch lever has been pulled in. Engage means the clutch lever has been let out. So unless I am mistaken the guide is: Single plate clutch - noisy when engaged, quiet when disengaged = normal Dual plate clutch - quiet when engaged, noisy when disengaged = normal
Guest Le Man Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 Just to add another vote, my '03 Lemans is quiet when running..noisy when pulled in (sounds like throwout bearing noise) and has been that way since day one. Now have 15k on the bike w/no problems to speak of. Mike IBA#15554
belfastguzzi Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 Regards, John wow, fantastic: three posts in a row from 'this' side of the Atlantic. As a newcomer to Guzzis, who had to go to England to get one of those 02 Scuras, I look forward to seeing one of these other MGs around the roads of Ireland, Scotland or Wales (or even England) sometime. – You'll hear my rattling clutch coming. This is a scary forum: no grease in the bearings, sizzling electrics, pinging springs, exploding clutches.... I had thought that with such a long-lived design, problems would have been pretty well ironed out by now.
al_roethlisberger Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 So the guide is: Single plate clutch - noisy when disengaged, quiet when engaged = normal Dual plate clutch - quiet when disengaged, noisy when engaged = normal I think you got your terms mixed up. I have heard many people use the terms engage and disengage one way or the other. I think we get it mixed up because the word engaging implies that an action is taking place, and we thing that our hand is engaging, but the term refers to what is happening with our clutch plates and not with what we are doing with our hand. I could be wrong but I have understood the following: Disengage means that the clutch lever has been pulled in. Engage means the clutch lever has been let out. So unless I am mistaken the guide is: Single plate clutch - noisy when engaged, quiet when disengaged = normal Dual plate clutch - quiet when engaged, noisy when disengaged = normal Correct ...you beat me to it
docc Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 I had thought that with such a long-lived design, problems would have been pretty well ironed out by now. Sure thing . . . bring your own iron.
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