Moto Guzzi plans V12

[ScuRoo]

See for yourself...My link

[abouc]

I would love to see a big block engine in the small bikes, provided they improved the suspension & brakes at the same time.

[luhbo]

I don't want to subscribe there. Is the video available somewhere else, too?

[Paul Minnaert]

I don't want to subscribe there. Is the video available somewhere else, too?

 

 

from 5.20

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSvgnylluBU&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[luhbo]

Thx, Paul. A lot of work probably to check the net for GMG snippets

If it's only this vague picture, all in all about 2 seconds, then the V12 is as coming as a V14 would be. Would be the first big engine in a small frame ever, anyway. At least one can say that it's not only the internet that has the Guzzi ideas, or that Guzzi is following the world leading forums

[pete roper]

There is no way in the world you could get the big motor in the small frme. Even if you could it would tie the frame in knots. The smallblock 750 makes 45HP, the 8V makes 105.

 

Apart from the sheer physical bulk all the shafts etcare in the wrong place.

 

Pete

[abouc]

But could you build a small bike around the 1200 engine? Just curious because the V11's seem somewhat smaller in stature than the Griso and 1200 Sport. A bike with the look of a V7 Classic/Cafe/Sport but larger displacement would be really nice. Heck, they got a 1200 in the Aprilia Dorsoduro - probably with modifications to frame, transmission, etc.

[luhbo]

Big engines in small bikes are nothing extraordinary. Big Vees in small Tontis would be extraordinary, or better extraterrestrial.

 

Hubert

[Skeeve]

There is no way in the world you could get the big motor in the small frme. Even if you could it would tie the frame in knots. The smallblock 750 makes 45HP, the 8V makes 105.

 

Apart from the sheer physical bulk all the shafts etcare in the wrong place.

 

Pete

 

What are the chances that the announcement that they were going to apply the technology of the big block to the small block series just got garbled? IE: reinventing the 4v small block [and yes, I'm using "4v" in the correct form of valves/cylinder, not the inane 'valves/motor' method Piaggio has used with MG over the past 5 years or so... ]

 

I'm with Pete, there doesn't seem any way to shoehorn the new, higher power big block into the small Tonti frame w/o creating a mess of headaches & structural failures. Perhaps Piaggio is trying on their own reality-distortion field now that Steve Jobs is no longer using it at Apple?

[belfastguzzi]

But could you build a small bike around the 1200 engine? Just curious because the V11's seem somewhat smaller in stature than the Griso and 1200 Sport. A bike with the look of a V7 Classic/Cafe/Sport but larger displacement would be really nice. Heck, they got a 1200 in the Aprilia Dorsoduro - probably with modifications to frame, transmission, etc.

 

The 750 Dorsoduro is quite big to start with. Originally 'they' (Aprillia press I think) said it was because the frame was designed and made so that later, a 1200 engine would also fit in. While that's substantially the case, in fact the 1200 Dorsoduro is bigger, with frame and geometry modifications.

 

The 750 Aprilia also of course makes a lot more than Guzzi's 45HP.