Admin Jaap Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 New project for this winter: Putting a Centauro 8V engine in the G&B. Already acquired a Centauro in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 That is going to be an awesome bike with the Centauro motor!! Will you put the V11 motor in the Centauro? If you are going to part out the centauro then I may be interested in a few parts for my Centauro project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 You have altogether too long of winters there. Actually, it sounds pretty dang cool- good luck and take lots of pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzirider Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gonna make a great bike even more special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Personally I'd keep the Centauro as a Centauro, it's a nice collector's item and the engine IS outdated anyway. Isn't it possible to adapt an actual, reliable and really powerful 8V to the 'old' gearbox as well? They might be a bit harder to get, that's true, and don't have as much of the older 'steam punk' look, too. But they really have the grunt. hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 If you could find a new 8V engine, it wouldn'f fit in the V11 spine frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzirider Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I rode Mal's Centauro 250 miles the other day and I must say the top end is very impressive. Very different in character to my Stelvio which seemed smoother and less rustic than the Centauro. I like the earthy feel of the early 4v motors- so much so that I've just bought Gyles's (RIP) Thunderbikes racer- a Daytona RS which is being made roadworthy again with a 1225cc motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 ...so much so that I've just bought Gyles's (RIP) Thunderbikes racer- a Daytona RS which is being made roadworthy again with a 1225cc motor. I already noticed that new line in your profile. 1225cc is a word, in fact. Why dont you call it Berzerk instead? It's a pity that those new engines don't fit into the V11 frames (if Jaap is right at least). Anyway, have fun, both of you, with your projects. I wish I had a 4-valve, too. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeve Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 It's a pity that those new engines don't fit into the V11 frames (if Jaap is right at least). Jaap is right about the new QV motors not fitting in the single-spine frame: they all sport the old style alternator mounted topside in the cylinder V that the original loop frame motors had, instead of the pancake alternator mounted on the front end of the crank as in our V11s.[1] The top-mount alt. interferes w/ the single-spine running down btw the cylinders, hence the use of the dual-spine frame common to all the Quotard[1] CARC bikes... It might be possible to fit a smaller alternator, flipped around to face forward from the "eye" w/o running into interference with the front end, & have clearance to fit the motor in the single-spine V11 frame. I don't know, nor do I have access to a spine frame floating around loose to see if it would mate up with the parts B11 motor I do have access to. I suppose if I was really motivated I could go out w/ tape measure & poke around measuring standoff heights from the LeMans cases vs. the top of the "eye" on the B11 cases, but I frankly can't be bothered right now; that will have to go into the "blue sky projects" file... Ride on! [1] How much sense would it make to fold the alternator/generator/electrical bumpf into the mass of the flywheel/clutch assembly? The flywheel spins constantly, building electromagnets/coils into the cases wouldn't be that hard, and some of the excess mass of alternator would simply "evaporate" from the system, since it would become part of the essential mass of the flywheel necessary to our lumpy big-twin motors... All the benefit of the light alloy flywheel, w/o sacrificing any of the actual structural integrity of the steel one. Win-win! [2] Because they're all derivatives of the dual-spine frame Dr. John developed for the Quota, hence, "Quotard." Kinda like "retards," but different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ... All the benefit of the light alloy flywheel, w/o sacrificing any of the actual structural integrity of the steel one. Win-win! ... You could go one step further even if you consider how much faster the magnetos would cross the coils, and how many more coils could be placed around the rather big flywheel/magneto holder. On the other hand, you don't find such a system in cars actually. What are the downsides then? Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The downside would be if you had an electrical problem with ANY one of the components in the flywheel. The Model T(I think) had the electrical/charging system integral with the flywheel. The Hybrid vehicles being produced now have this (a real mess)setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 The flywheel should hold only the magnets... and the magnets should hold nothing else of what comes near to them Jaap, do you have a picture of the Centauro which you're going to sacrifice, only for your personal fun if I might add? Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=143369892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Taken off already. But don't mind. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 I know... The guy decided he didn't want to sell after all. I'm open for new options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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