Does anyone know where to buy replacement fork and

[Guest mikemason]

Does anyone have information on buying springs both fork and shock for the Zocchi and Sachs suspended bikes? I'm looking for stiffer spring for my 01 V11S.

Any information such as spring rates, coil dia. or vendors would be of great help.

[callison]

Mike, email me. I have a set of re-valved stock ones (Mike Stewart's former forks) and a source in England where you can pick up WP components from a wrecker. I have a spare Sach's rear shock too.

[Guest mikemason]

Carl I sent you a couple of emails this weekend.

 

Thanks

[callison]

They must have bounced. I'll give you my standard email address through this forums mail mechanism.

[th_01]

Carl

 

Wht options are available for the WP shock setupthat you have tried?

Tom in Boston

[callison]

My seat of the pants evaluation of the Marzocchi/Sachs combo compared to the WP combo of the Sport 1100i is that the WP components are far more compliant. The V11 Sport has always felt more harsh to me than the Sport 1100i. Unfortunately, I will not be able to give a direct replacement evaluation when the WP stuff goes on my V11 Sport because the V11 Sport is not getting a V11 Sport frame as a replacement (that accident in September really messed it up), so it is getting one from a Sport 1100i instead. They're very nearly identical except for the steering head angle and various attachement points for fuel filters etc. The spine length may be different too, but I don't have a way to measure that. Side by side, they look the same though. As far as the steering head angle is concerned, the Sport 1100i's exhibit none of the steering "wandering" at speeds above 100 mph that the V11 Sports do. There are likely a number of things that affect this, frame rigidity, steering head angle, aerodynamics of the bike (the fairing on the Sport 1100i, while not useful for wind protection, does add a measurable amount of down force to the front end of the bike at normal highway speeds), and the tire combination. The Sport 1100i runs a narrower rear tire and an increased steering head angle which makes it very stable, but slow turning. After I get finished putting my bastardized V11 back together, I'll get to experience the differences and I hope to have better answers. When the weather improves, I suspect that the Ohlins crowd (Al and Mike) that live on the other side of the hill (San Francisco bay area) might be induced into swapping bikes around to ascertain the differences between stock V11 suspension, WP stuff and Ohlins. FWIW, the standard V11 Sport fork tubes from MGNA list for $1470 USD a pair. The WP's list at $3400. I would certainly hope the higher price equates to better quality and performance.

[GuzziMoto]

Oh look, a bot.....

[LowRyter]

Seeing this thread,  I hope long time Guzzi-file, Carl Allison is doing well on this holiday.  He did a lot for the community until he dropped off a few years ago.  He was a riding partner and a wealth of info.

[Lucky Phil]

If you invest in a Wilbers rear shock they will tailor the damping and spring to your specific weight and riding style and you can also adjust the ride height depending on the spec you choose. Some other brands can be done as well if you buy from a suspension specialist.

I wouldn't bother messing around with the stock rear Sachs unit considering the propensity for the eye end to fail. Not worth even spending the money on a spring and fitting for. By the time you've bought the spring and paid someone to fit it you'll be 1/3 the way to a brand new quality rear shock anyway. 

Ciao  

[Lucky Phil]

On 1/1/2004 at 4:12 AM, callison said:

My seat of the pants evaluation of the Marzocchi/Sachs combo compared to the WP combo of the Sport 1100i is that the WP components are far more compliant. The V11 Sport has always felt more harsh to me than the Sport 1100i. Unfortunately, I will not be able to give a direct replacement evaluation when the WP stuff goes on my V11 Sport because the V11 Sport is not getting a V11 Sport frame as a replacement (that accident in September really messed it up), so it is getting one from a Sport 1100i instead. They're very nearly identical except for the steering head angle and various attachement points for fuel filters etc. The spine length may be different too, but I don't have a way to measure that. Side by side, they look the same though. As far as the steering head angle is concerned, the Sport 1100i's exhibit none of the steering "wandering" at speeds above 100 mph that the V11 Sports do. There are likely a number of things that affect this, frame rigidity, steering head angle, aerodynamics of the bike (the fairing on the Sport 1100i, while not useful for wind protection, does add a measurable amount of down force to the front end of the bike at normal highway speeds), and the tire combination. The Sport 1100i runs a narrower rear tire and an increased steering head angle which makes it very stable, but slow turning. After I get finished putting my bastardized V11 back together, I'll get to experience the differences and I hope to have better answers. When the weather improves, I suspect that the Ohlins crowd (Al and Mike) that live on the other side of the hill (San Francisco bay area) might be induced into swapping bikes around to ascertain the differences between stock V11 suspension, WP stuff and Ohlins. FWIW, the standard V11 Sport fork tubes from MGNA list for $1470 USD a pair. The WP's list at $3400. I would certainly hope the higher price equates to better quality and performance.

What about the front subframe and gearbox mounts? Ones a six speeder and ones a five. The front subfame at the very least is different as the engine offset difference between the 5 and six speeds is 10mm. You will need a V11 front subframe or cut and weld the sport one and when Paul Minnaert did his Daytona 6 speed conversion I seem to remember a lot of rear frame modifications.

Ciao